Engadget Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 No more thinking through my actions. Why? Well because today I started a new job, and while waiting to go in through orientation an absolutely beautiful girl walked in who was also starting there. We locked eyes, and she didn't look away once and I could see her looking over at me, and I was doing the same. Tiny little denim shorts, great legs...god damn. So we go into the orientation room and lo and behold, our seats are next to each other with our names on our folders and everything, awesome. We talked when we could, not trying to get in trouble with the woman running the projector. She's 19, college student and doesn't live far from the workplace. After we were done we walked outside together and talked and I asked her to dinner tonight. She said yes, but the only part I ****ed up, was she took down my number. I had taken my phone out and it wouldn't turn on (new phone and the sim card had fallen out under the battery). So I asked her to give me a call in a bit and we'd go out, because I didn't have a pen. Only worry is she's shy like most girls and won't call, despite her obvious interest. I give credit to the impulsiveness of the day to drinking and smoking till 2am and not sleeping. I'm always outgoing, but I don't usually move that fast.
marlena Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Acting on impulse is very sexy in my book!! Hope she calls!!
Author Engadget Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Acting on impulse is very sexy in my book!! Hope she calls!! Probably should have asked if she had a boyfriend, something in the way she answered me about dinner gave me the impression she might. If that's the case, I probably shouldn't expect the call. Either way we'll be working the same shift starting monday, so if she doesn't there's always then. I'm going to make sure we work side by side too. Just wish my stupid phone hadn't messed up.
MrNate Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 No more thinking through my actions. Why? Well because today I started a new job, and while waiting to go in through orientation an absolutely beautiful girl walked in who was also starting there. We locked eyes, and she didn't look away once and I could see her looking over at me, and I was doing the same. Tiny little denim shorts, great legs...god damn. So we go into the orientation room and lo and behold, our seats are next to each other with our names on our folders and everything, awesome. We talked when we could, not trying to get in trouble with the woman running the projector. She's 19, college student and doesn't live far from the workplace. After we were done we walked outside together and talked and I asked her to dinner tonight. She said yes, but the only part I ****ed up, was she took down my number. I had taken my phone out and it wouldn't turn on (new phone and the sim card had fallen out under the battery). So I asked her to give me a call in a bit and we'd go out, because I didn't have a pen. Only worry is she's shy like most girls and won't call, despite her obvious interest. I give credit to the impulsiveness of the day to drinking and smoking till 2am and not sleeping. I'm always outgoing, but I don't usually move that fast. Why no sleep? I think what you did was pretty cool. You watched her for signs of interested, you found them (prolonged eye contact) then instead of freaking out or worrying that she might not be interested, you immediately went for it, not letting fear get to you. Ha, I gotta step it up myself. Job well done man.
marlena Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Probably should have asked if she had a boyfriend, something in the way she answered me about dinner gave me the impression she might. If that's the case, I probably shouldn't expect the call. Either way we'll be working the same shift starting monday, so if she doesn't there's always then. I'm going to make sure we work side by side too. Just wish my stupid phone hadn't messed up. well, you know, Murphy's Law and all. Anyway, don't worry about it. Just turn on your charm on Monday and see what happens!!
Author Engadget Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Why no sleep? I think what you did was pretty cool. You watched her for signs of interested, you found them (prolonged eye contact) then instead of freaking out or worrying that she might not be interested, you immediately went for it, not letting fear get to you. Ha, I gotta step it up myself. Job well done man. I rarely sleep when I have to wake up for something important, I get too excited or worried I may oversleep so I just don't. My problem isn't usually the beginning, the asking out and all that. It's afterwards, I'm still a little sore from my breakup so instead of opening myself up I shut down and back away to protect myself, thereby cutting off potential relationships. That's gotta change though.
MrNate Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 I rarely sleep when I have to wake up for something important, I get too excited or worried I may oversleep so I just don't. My problem isn't usually the beginning, the asking out and all that. It's afterwards, I'm still a little sore from my breakup so instead of opening myself up I shut down and back away to protect myself, thereby cutting off potential relationships. That's gotta change though. Well man, I definitely respect you for hopping back onto your feet like that and having the guts to get back out there. Lots of props. I think you're one of the more respectable guys on this site. Good luck with her man.
Author Engadget Posted August 6, 2010 Author Posted August 6, 2010 Well man, I definitely respect you for hopping back onto your feet like that and having the guts to get back out there. Lots of props. I think you're one of the more respectable guys on this site. Good luck with her man. Thanks, just have to wait for the call now.
marlena Posted August 6, 2010 Posted August 6, 2010 Well man, I definitely respect you for hopping back onto your feet like that and having the guts to get back out there. Lots of props. I think you're one of the more respectable guys on this site. Good luck with her man. Yes, he is. Plus a sharp and independent thinker. Rare nowadays.
Author Engadget Posted August 7, 2010 Author Posted August 7, 2010 As an update she contacted me, we texted back and forth for a while but the dinner didn't happen as I had fallen asleep. She was going out so I'll talk to her again soon.
jamesum Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 I see no reason why you should have hesitation approaching girls. No homo but you are a good looking guy.
Author Engadget Posted August 7, 2010 Author Posted August 7, 2010 Thanks, but like I said it's not usually the approaching that's the issue it's the follow through.
Cracker Jack Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 Dude, that was awesome. I wish I could do something like that. Good work. Hope it goes well.
TheBigQuestion Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 Probably should have asked if she had a boyfriend, something in the way she answered me about dinner gave me the impression she might. If that's the case, I probably shouldn't expect the call. Either way we'll be working the same shift starting monday, so if she doesn't there's always then. I'm going to make sure we work side by side too. Just wish my stupid phone hadn't messed up. The key is to finding out if she has a boyfriend without asking her directly. It's tricky but it needs to be done very early on so you don't end up wasting your time. Unless you're one who subscribes to the "All is fair in love and war" school of thought.
GordonDarkfoot Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 I see no reason why you should have hesitation approaching girls. No homo but you are a good looking guy. Actually endgaget looks remarkably a lot like Hunter S. Thompson or Johnny Depp or maybe is it Bill Murray or possibly Uncle Duke.
GordonDarkfoot Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) The key is to finding out if she has a boyfriend without asking her directly. It's tricky but it needs to be done very early on so you don't end up wasting your time. Unless you're one who subscribes to the "All is fair in love and war" school of thought. No if things are going well, you DON'T ask her if she has a boyfriend. Why would you do that? Typically very hot girls ALWAYS have a boyfriend, or let's say they're always involved at least on some level with some guy somewhere, even if it's not a very tight relationship. Or they want to be perceived as "desirable" and therefore if you ask them if they have a bf, you really put them on the spot, because if they have to say "no" it makes them appear undesirable. So you're always going to hear in response to that question something like "Yes, but...." if she likes you. But still you've forced her to essentially acknowledge that she's "kinda sorta" cheating by going out with you. If SHE thinks that it's relevant to mention a "bf" she will. And normally this will only happen if she wants to get rid of you. Face the facts gentlemen--the majority of women will not leave one relationship until they are assured there is someone else at least "waiting in the wings." Point 2 is that hot women always have access to men. Whether or not she has a bf or not, only becomes an issue once you actually start going out on dates with her and start developing a relationship, and obv. if you actually start having sex with her. Hopefully that never becomes an issue because YOU will be declared the "bf" and any other unspoken-of "candidates"/"also rans" will just get quietly disposed of behind the scenes. Edit: To add to the above, the reason that it oftentimes seems hard to firm up an actual date with a hot girl, after the initial contacts seem very positive, is because while you are completely focused on her, she is busy behind the scenes attempting to juggle, and mulling over, multiple dating opportunities. So at first she seems eager; then a couple of days later, at next contact, a little less so. That's because she was "into you" while in your physical presence. During the one or two days since you met her and chatted her up and gave her your phone number, she's had like 20 other guys hitting on her, and probably several plausible dating opportunities have come up (i.e. with guys who are probably your reasonable equivalent as potential dating material for her). You're dining a la carte but she's got a buffet to choose from. If she's really hot, then the buffet she has contains several multiples of the choices that you have. Edited August 7, 2010 by GordonDarkfoot
dispatch3d Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 As to the title of this thread, I've decided to not overanalyze everything like I used to. Overthinking stuff, like dating, can give you huge anxiety problems. You start thinking of all the remote **** that could happen and just focus in on whatever is most emotionally swingy. Anyways good job on the number. It's great she called you, means she actually has some interest. I would not be impressed by the first date flakeout tho.
Author Engadget Posted August 7, 2010 Author Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) No if things are going well, you DON'T ask her if she has a boyfriend. Why would you do that? Typically very hot girls ALWAYS have a boyfriend, or let's say they're always involved at least on some level with some guy somewhere, even if it's not a very tight relationship. Or they want to be perceived as "desirable" and therefore if you ask them if they have a bf, you really put them on the spot, because if they have to say "no" it makes them appear undesirable. So you're always going to hear in response to that question something like "Yes, but...." if she likes you. But still you've forced her to essentially acknowledge that she's "kinda sorta" cheating by going out with you. If SHE thinks that it's relevant to mention a "bf" she will. And normally this will only happen if she wants to get rid of you. Face the facts gentlemen--the majority of women will not leave one relationship until they are assured there is someone else at least "waiting in the wings." Point 2 is that hot women always have access to men. Whether or not she has a bf or not, only becomes an issue once you actually start going out on dates with her and start developing a relationship, and obv. if you actually start having sex with her. Hopefully that never becomes an issue because YOU will be declared the "bf" and any other unspoken-of "candidates"/"also rans" will just get quietly disposed of behind the scenes. Edit: To add to the above, the reason that it oftentimes seems hard to firm up an actual date with a hot girl, after the initial contacts seem very positive, is because while you are completely focused on her, she is busy behind the scenes attempting to juggle, and mulling over, multiple dating opportunities. So at first she seems eager; then a couple of days later, at next contact, a little less so. That's because she was "into you" while in your physical presence. During the one or two days since you met her and chatted her up and gave her your phone number, she's had like 20 other guys hitting on her, and probably several plausible dating opportunities have come up (i.e. with guys who are probably your reasonable equivalent as potential dating material for her). You're dining a la carte but she's got a buffet to choose from. If she's really hot, then the buffet she has contains several multiples of the choices that you have. This is where being aloof comes into play. Making oneself too available would be unwise in my situation now, so we haven't spoken today and I may not even contact her. If we do talk I'd tell her I'm busy, I made it clear I have friends and party regularly when we first talked. She seemed concerned she thought she was dodging me last night, told her I didn't think that at all. Funny enough my ex girlfriend I was with for 6 years did the same thing when we started dating. I had originally set a date with her to go to a fair back then and she told me she had a wedding to go to. So, maybe it's a good sign. As to the title of this thread, I've decided to not overanalyze everything like I used to. Overthinking stuff, like dating, can give you huge anxiety problems. You start thinking of all the remote **** that could happen and just focus in on whatever is most emotionally swingy. Anyways good job on the number. It's great she called you, means she actually has some interest. I would not be impressed by the first date flakeout tho. Exactly, well you can still strike out 8/10 times, but you have to let it roll off your back and move on. The "players" of the world simply use numbers, they go after everything so they end up with more women for that reason. Edited August 7, 2010 by Engadget
Sabali Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 (edited) No if things are going well, you DON'T ask her if she has a boyfriend. Why would you do that? Typically very hot girls ALWAYS have a boyfriend, or let's say they're always involved at least on some level with some guy somewhere, even if it's not a very tight relationship. Or they want to be perceived as "desirable" and therefore if you ask them if they have a bf, you really put them on the spot, because if they have to say "no" it makes them appear undesirable. So you're always going to hear in response to that question something like "Yes, but...." if she likes you. But still you've forced her to essentially acknowledge that she's "kinda sorta" cheating by going out with you. If SHE thinks that it's relevant to mention a "bf" she will. And normally this will only happen if she wants to get rid of you. Face the facts gentlemen--the majority of women will not leave one relationship until they are assured there is someone else at least "waiting in the wings." Point 2 is that hot women always have access to men. Whether or not she has a bf or not, only becomes an issue once you actually start going out on dates with her and start developing a relationship, and obv. if you actually start having sex with her. Hopefully that never becomes an issue because YOU will be declared the "bf" and any other unspoken-of "candidates"/"also rans" will just get quietly disposed of behind the scenes. Edit: To add to the above, the reason that it oftentimes seems hard to firm up an actual date with a hot girl, after the initial contacts seem very positive, is because while you are completely focused on her, she is busy behind the scenes attempting to juggle, and mulling over, multiple dating opportunities. So at first she seems eager; then a couple of days later, at next contact, a little less so. That's because she was "into you" while in your physical presence. During the one or two days since you met her and chatted her up and gave her your phone number, she's had like 20 other guys hitting on her, and probably several plausible dating opportunities have come up (i.e. with guys who are probably your reasonable equivalent as potential dating material for her). You're dining a la carte but she's got a buffet to choose from. If she's really hot, then the buffet she has contains several multiples of the choices that you have. In the words of the OP: "lock this thread and give this man the Nobel Prize." I am so sold on this concept that I bought stock in it. You can't tell me nothing! I don't think I have asked a woman about a boyfriend since high school, really. This changed after drawing up the guts to approach this older woman who had a boyfriend back when I was seventeen. After I told her that I initially hesitated on approaching her because it seemed to me that she has a boyfriend she said, "hasn't your mother ever taught you to just go for what you want?" I had a moment of clarity. But if she leaves her boyfriend for you that means she will do the same to you. Right? She doesn’t need past experience to do this if the crystal ball shows her doing it to you. Edited August 7, 2010 by Sabali
meerkat stew Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 The actual fact of whether a woman has a BF or not tends to correlate directly with her level of attraction to the man currently engaging her. I have dated two women (that I know of, probably more) who regularly wear fake engagement rings. Neither of them worked in bars, clubs or restaurants. Have had a woman volunteer that she has a serious BF, and then a mere 15 minutes later in the conversation do a complete about-face and say things aren't that serious and that she wants to go out with me. None of it was prompted by me in any way other than charm. No questions at all on my end. Have seen female friends use the BF line on men many times out and about when I know for a fact they don't have a BF. Many women have FWB these days that can become alternately BFs or complete non-entities depending on how she feels about the man currently talking to her. Same with exes they are still involved with on some level, same with guys they have been on two dates with. How to use this information? Never believe them until he is standing next to you and never even bring the topic up. The potential for confusing female noise in this department is just too great to tell truth from lies.
Author Engadget Posted August 7, 2010 Author Posted August 7, 2010 I usually have pretty good intuition about these things, and my gut is telling me she has a boyfriend. When talking she mentioned her roommates, and that I could have gone over if they had left for New York which they didn't. Since I wasn't invited to meet her roommates, I can only imagine she lives with her boyfriend, or they know her boyfriend and I'd have to be kept secret. She also stopped texting me abruptly last night when she went out and hasn't yet responded. Normally I might think she's just not interested, but if she wasn't she never had to contact me in the first place. Girls with boyfriends are right in my wheelhouse as wrong as that sounds, but I seem to have an easier time with them than single women.
Sabali Posted August 7, 2010 Posted August 7, 2010 I usually have pretty good intuition about these things, and my gut is telling me she has a boyfriend. When talking she mentioned her roommates, and that I could have gone over if they had left for New York which they didn't. Since I wasn't invited to meet her roommates, I can only imagine she lives with her boyfriend, or they know her boyfriend and I'd have to be kept secret. She also stopped texting me abruptly last night when she wIt's two ent out and hasn't yet responded. Normally I might think she's just not interested, but if she wasn't she never had to contact me in the first place. Girls with boyfriends are right in my wheelhouse as wrong as that sounds, but I seem to have an easier time with them than single women. It ain't holy matrimony. I wouldn't abuse it but there is that exceptional woman that you just can't stop thinking about and she has this boyfriend that she has been with for 2 months. You know she is into you but you accept her as a fantasy because of a guy you don't even know. In any case, anyone looking to practice ethics can't be wrong. If you feel that knocking on someone's door more than once is unethical so you won't do it, it may sound a little strange but, hey, who can fault you?
Author Engadget Posted August 8, 2010 Author Posted August 8, 2010 Made it clear I'd like to see her after work, even complimented her looks in a nonchalant way. She seemed shy to it, but was happy about it. I'm making sure to not make myself too available, and I just stopped talking to her abruptly because I was going out. In the past I guess I've been too available but that never works. Really hoping things work out with her, she's an intelligent and gorgeous girl and not like most 19 year olds I'd run into. We talked about working side by side and she wants to, but I'm not sure it'll happen since we're both new. I'm just going to keep laying on the charm, unlike previous experiences I want this to work out. Her young naiveté is adorable though, I guess that's the advantage of being older and a little more experienced.
Mme. Chaucer Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 May I ask where you work where tiny denim shorts are worn?!?!
florence of suburbia Posted August 8, 2010 Posted August 8, 2010 Actually endgaget looks remarkably a lot like Hunter S. Thompson or Johnny Depp or maybe is it Bill Murray or possibly Uncle Duke. Without a doubt that is Hunter S. Thomson. Unless Engadget smokes his cigarettes with a holder...!?...and I can't imagine that would impress the ladies in 2010.
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