Why So Many Anti-Women Threads vs Anti-Men Threads?

[Payden]

It's stupid though... you can still see the ignored poster has posted, but you can't read what was written.

 

They even give you a quick option to not ignore them lol...... If I use the feature...I wouldn't want to see any trace of them..

 

YO! VBulliten guys..wat up wit that?

[Itzo]

Ya I think rejection is crucial. I know I was rejected a few times, but I didn't hate go on a crusade against women. I just moved on, tried to learn what happened, and adjust.

 

 

After the greatest failure comes the greatest success!!!

[Taramere]

I suspect a lot of the guys who start up these endless anti-women threads are quite isolated. Don't have friends they can sound off to when they're feeling down, frustrated etc. So the Internet becomes that surrogate friend to absorb the frustrations like a sponge.

 

Given the level of frustration a lot of them express, I think it would be difficult for them to form friendships....because they've reached a point where they've not got much to give in terms of listening to/caring about other people, but would require huge amounts of tolerance, patience and understanding from others in order feel they were having their needs met, and to avoid endless fallings out.

 

Most men I know don't have time for women who complain a lot, and they certainly don't have time for other men who do it. Tending to see complaining as a sign that a person isn't solution focused. If the guys who argue and complain incessantly here are taking that approach in the outside world, then the chances are that the only people they can get along with are others who feel the same way. So they end up egging eachother to sink deeper and deeper into that pit of frustration.

 

By this point, I've seen so many of those threads on LS that they're just noise now. It's invariably a waste of time to try to enter into any sort of reasoned discussion with the guys who start those threads, because that's not what they're looking for. Essentially I think all they want to do is play some sort of message board equivalent of World of Warcraft. Most of them probably don't even really want a girlfriend, and would be more comfortable in a world where women just didn't exist outside of porn.

 

However, they feel themselves under social pressure to have a woman in their life....and perhaps have some vague picture of a sweet, tolerant saintly type who would be endlessly amused by/sympathetic to their rants but never express any anger or frustration herself.

[D-Jam]

I also agree that rejection is the great learning lesson. For me it hurt at first, but it later showed me the women I should have been pursuing over the women I actually pursued.

 

I also think the anti-woman topics on these boards is more out of how men can't really talk about these things the way women can.

 

You women can get together, pop on Sex and the City or a chick flick, crack open the Hagan Daas and wine, and spend the night telling one another how inferior men are or how men are dogs or whatever derogatories you want to make about men.

 

NOW...imagine if a guy wanted to get together with the fellas and have a few beers and bitch about women. Wouldn't happen. You'll get a few guys then claiming the complainers are losers and they suck at life, while bragging about whatever they can score (even if it's a lie). A guy complains about a woman and he's instantly told that he's hating because he can't have her or he'll never have her. Never once does anyone say "maybe she's a 1st class bitch and you can do better" except the gal pals that guy may have.

 

Men in many social circles can't lower their guards to one another the way women can to one another. Many men are always in a competitive mode...and they want to be "better" than everyone (even their friends and loved ones), so they will see the complainer as a sign of weakness (and thus pounce on that), not as someone that maybe needs some sympathy and a buddy.

 

So guys come on these boards because they can speak what's on their minds and in their hearts without the worry or persecution from their peers.

 

Believe me, the social circles of men I've been around have only held a few opinions of how to handle women:

 

1) Bang them

2) Launch them if they become nagging bitches

3) Never commit to any of them. Do not trust them.

4) It's your fault and you're a loser if you can't get a girl.

5) You're a loser if you can't get a hot girl.

 

So how can a guy talk about issues with women if their own peers will only persecute them for it?

 

This is also why I had a lot of female friends in my life. They were the only people I could hold a real conversation with and not feel like I am in competition with. Even with topics other than women. Try talking about politics, or money, or things happening in the world with men. Many either talk down to you as a mean to front a wall of self-imposed superiority, others dodge the topic and even ridicule you for not being only about money and pu$$y.

 

Thank god for the net...because men finally can lower their guards and let it all out.

[Left in a Lurch]

 

So guys come on these boards because they can speak what's on their minds and in their hearts without the worry or persecution from their peers.

 

Believe me, the social circles of men I've been around have only held a few opinions of how to handle women:

 

1) Bang them

2) Launch them if they become nagging bitches

3) Never commit to any of them. Do not trust them.

4) It's your fault and you're a loser if you can't get a girl.

5) You're a loser if you can't get a hot girl.

 

So how can a guy talk about issues with women if their own peers will only persecute them for it?

 

This is also why I had a lot of female friends in my life. They were the only people I could hold a real conversation with and not feel like I am in competition with. Even with topics other than women. Try talking about politics, or money, or things happening in the world with men. Many either talk down to you as a mean to front a wall of self-imposed superiority, others dodge the topic and even ridicule you for not being only about money and pu$$y.

 

Thank god for the net...because men finally can lower their guards and let it all out.

 

There's a lot of truth to this. If you get burned in a relationship as a guy, you're guy friends don't tell you how good looking you are, or take you shopping for new clothes, or talk you up.

 

Usually they'll say, "Yeah, she was hot. Mind if I take a run at her since you are out of the picture?"

 

Even when they try to be supportive they do it by making jokes about it. Men are not going to try to cheer you up, they are going to tell you to forget her and then change the subject.

 

I recently had a girl dump me and she started dating a guy in a sports league I am in. If we go to a bar after and she is there I try to ignore it but every time someone would make a joke about her being there with him. It's no big deal, that's how it is, but it's not like I am going to say what I really think or feel because it will be met with a joke at my expense.

[Taramere]

ISo how can a guy talk about issues with women if their own peers will only persecute them for it?

 

This is also why I had a lot of female friends in my life. They were the only people I could hold a real conversation with and not feel like I am in competition with. Even with topics other than women. Try talking about politics, or money, or things happening in the world with men. Many either talk down to you as a mean to front a wall of self-imposed superiority, others dodge the topic and even ridicule you for not being only about money and pu$$y.

 

Thank god for the net...because men finally can lower their guards and let it all out.

 

We know it. A lot of us grew up with brothers and saw all the competition, bullsh*t and bravado that goes on amongst men. In general they do tend to be far less open (and truthful) about their fears and vulnerabilities with eachother than they are when they're talking privately to women.

 

However, I don't know a single man who has ever discussed his private vulnerabilities with me in the kind of hostile and attacking manner that goes on in this forum. I wonder if it's partly because this provides some kind of halfway house between telling a woman, in confidence, about how you're really feeling....and disclosing it to other men.

 

There are, after all, both male and female posters here. So I suppose it creates a certain conflict and confusion in men who crave a female ear for their problems. Other men are listening in too...so in making the disclosures about their vulnerabilities, but at the same time trying to hang onto whatever it is that other men regard as "manly", they become unnecessarily aggressive and hostile to and about women. Therefore alienating people who were initially prepared to give them a reasonably empathic hearing.

Edited January 21, 2010 by Taramere

[Art_Critic]

Most men I know don't have time for women who complain a lot, and they certainly don't have time for other men who do it. Tending to see complaining as a sign that a person isn't solution focused. If the guys who argue and complain incessantly here are taking that approach in the outside world, then the chances are that the only people they can get along with are others who feel the same way. So they end up egging eachother to sink deeper and deeper into that pit of frustration.

 

That is a great point and one that most likely can not be seen by the ones doing the arguing.

When one is so finely focused on blaming someone for their own problems they cannot see that they themselves are the biggest part of the problem.

[Taramere]

That is a great point and one that most likely can not be seen by the ones doing the arguing.

When one is so finely focused on blaming someone for their own problems they cannot see that they themselves are the biggest part of the problem.

 

That lack of self awareness is most probably why they have the problems in the first place.

[meerkat stew]

I suspect a lot of the guys who start up these endless anti-women threads are quite isolated Don't have friends they can sound off to when they're feeling down, frustrated etc. So the Internet becomes that surrogate friend to absorb the frustrations like a sponge.

 

Given the level of frustration a lot of them express, I think it would be difficult for them to form friendships....because they've reached a point where they've not got much to give in terms of listening to/caring about other people, but would require huge amounts of tolerance, patience and understanding from others in order feel they were having their needs met, and to avoid endless fallings out.

 

Most men I know don't have time for women who complain a lot, and they certainly don't have time for other men who do it. Tending to see complaining as a sign that a person isn't solution focused. If the guys who argue and complain incessantly here are taking that approach in the outside world, then the chances are that the only people they can get along with are others who feel the same way. So they end up egging eachother to sink deeper and deeper into that pit of frustration.

 

By this point, I've seen so many of those threads on LS that they're just noise now. It's invariably a waste of time to try to enter into any sort of reasoned discussion with the guys who start those threads, because that's not what they're looking for. Essentially I think all they want to do is play some sort of message board equivalent of World of Warcraft. Most of them probably don't even really want a girlfriend, and would be more comfortable in a world where women just didn't exist outside of porn.

 

However, they feel themselves under social pressure to have a woman in their life....and perhaps have some vague picture of a sweet, tolerant saintly type who would be endlessly amused by/sympathetic to their rants but never express any anger or frustration herself.

 

However, I don't know a single man who has ever discussed his private vulnerabilities with me in the kind of hostile and attacking manner that goes on in this forum.

 

Your post quoted above is far more "hostile and attacking" than almost any of the supposed "endless" anti-woman posts you complain about, let alone highly condescending. You repeatedly insult men who post about their dating issues as having no friends IRL, being unable to form friendships, have stunted personalities that no one wants to be around, are needy, complain too much, can't get along with others, are immature and seeking a WoW type outlet, porn addicts, all these vast generalizing insults from a few rants and inflammatory posts here. Quite a leap to make about people you don't know at all based entirely on a few net posts. Your posts are also cram full of convenient straw men and other fallacies. When people are baldly and fallaciously insulted, they tend to react in kind.

 

So at what point does your preachy, condescending and insulting tone become worse than the problem you claim exists? You claim that it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion, yet when I have made attempts, and have limited my comments strictly to the words in your posts, and not made any assumptions or claims about you in the outside world, you insult me personally, call my professional ethics into question, then fairly plainly storm around gathering up a bandwagon of the women and others here who post as dismissively and condescendingly as you do (all the while calling -my- debating tactics into question ).

 

Your posts are a big part of the problem, and if there is an issue with "anti-women" threads here (and there obviously isn't, count them up as a percentage of total threads if you disagree and get back to us), then you and several others are prime aggravators of that problem.

[Taramere]

Meerkat, if you enjoy reading my posts then keep on reading. If you want to address them for other posters' benefit or entertainment then go for your life. Just don't expect me to trawl through your querulous, ranting, pseudo-debating, time-wasting drivel. I gave you the benefit of the doubt before, and both read and responded to it...but enough's enough.

 

Ad hominem? Too bad.

[grogster]

You repeatedly insult men who post about their dating issues as having no friends IRL, being unable to form friendships, have stunted personalities that no one wants to be around, are needy, complain too much, can't get along with others, are immature and seeking a WoW type outlet, porn addicts, all these vast generalizing insults from a few rants and inflammatory posts here. Quite a leap to make about people you don't know at all based entirely on a few net posts. Your posts are also cram full of convenient straw men and other fallacies. When people are baldly and fallaciously insulted, they tend to react in kind.

 

If the shoe fits... I love this: vomit up attacks on women day in and day out and when some "uppity" women strike back (effectively I might add), whine and play the poor pity me victim. You guys dish it out, but can't take the inevitable blow-back. It hurts your precious feelings. Man up, dude.

 

So at what point does your preachy, condescending and insulting tone become worse than the problem you claim exists? You claim that it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion, yet when I have made attempts, and have limited my comments strictly to the words in your posts, and not made any assumptions or claims about you in the outside world, you insult me personally, call my professional ethics into question, then fairly plainly storm around gathering up a bandwagon of the women and others here who post as dismissively and condescendingly as you do (all the while calling -my- debating tactics into question ).

 

This pot is still calling the kettle black. All responsibility is denied. The fault, as always, lies elsewhere. You just can't understand why there's reaction, can you? Of course, not.

 

 

Your posts are a big part of the problem, and if there is an issue with "anti-women" threads here (and there obviously isn't, count them up as a percentage of total threads if you disagree and get back to us), then you and several others are prime aggravators of that problem.

 

Projecting here are we not? You claim that Taramere's posts are a "big part of the problem." Are you sure of that? I don't remember Taramere damning an entire gender although I would certainly understand if she did as you, and your brothers, convert the Shack into a toxic waste dump with your bile.

[New_Life08]

LOL! It is an ongoing phenomenon that will last til the end of time. It brings to mind the question... "Can't we all just get along?!":laugh:

[Payden]

For all the lame preaching against us "misogynists", you seem to be the one with the anger problem. Only thing is your anger is dumb, because it's aimed at some kid who just wants to be your friend

 

Oh we are friends lol.... At first he pissed me off always asking where's my GF, why don't I go out..ect ect... It got annoying as you could imagine. What person would want to be pestered about things he really does not want to discuss at work? Finally I gave in with good results and he's a trusted friend now.

 

 

Only thing is your anger is dumb, because it's aimed at some kid who just wants to be your friend

 

I have never heard of dumb anger lol..... hahha this makes no sense. That is why my anger is dumb?..because it's aimed at a kid?... So if I aim it at a cow out in the field..is it still dumb?.....

Edited January 21, 2010 by Payden

[meerkat stew]

Meerkat, if you enjoy reading my posts then keep on reading. If you want to address them for other posters' benefit or entertainment then go for your life. Just don't expect me to trawl through your querulous, ranting, pseudo-debating, time-wasting drivel. I gave you the benefit of the doubt before, and both read and responded to it...but enough's enough.

 

Ad hominem? Too bad.

 

My simple claims are that 1. Your posts, unlike the relatively few true "anti-woman" threads here, are chock full of direct personal insults for men who raise dating issues with the opposite sex, whereas I don't recall any one of them (or me) insulting you personally. And that simple -fact- combined with 2. the preachy, condescending tone of your posts, makes you 3. As big a part of the problem as any of us where the thread topic is concerned.

 

I don't enjoy reading your posts at all, as they are repetitive and tiresomely preachy, but do very much enjoy pointing out the blatant hypocrisy contained within them.

 

Now if that's too querulous, ranting, pseudo-debating, or time-wasting drivel for you to understand, then I feel immense pity for you.

 

And as far as -you- giving -me- the benefit of the doubt before? well that literally drips with a privileged attitude, and that's an equal part of the topic problem as well where men attempting to sound there issues here is concerned.

[Taramere]

Projecting here are we not? You claim that Taramere's posts are a "big part of the problem." Are you sure of that? I don't remember Taramere damning an entire gender although I would certainly understand if she did as you, and your brothers, convert the Shack into a toxic waste dump with your bile.

 

To be fair, I did make a mocking reference to World of Warcraft. I'm guessing that's probably a heinous offence in some circles. Serious business, WOW.

[flc]

To the one who questions whether most men feel this way: yes we do. Only in private. Because in real life, being politically incorrect can cost you your job and "reputation".

 

Don't put me in your boat, I love women and I have no problems if they don't want to go out on a date with me becuase I'm 5'7" or 52yo or have gray hair. Cest le vie, I'll just ride my bike, go to the beachand have a good glass of wine until I find a women that enjoys my company. So far I have not had to wait too long.

[grogster]

To be fair, I did make a mocking reference to World of Warcraft. I'm guessing that's probably a heinous offence in some circles. Serious business, WOW.

 

 

Everyone needs an outlet, Taramere, although some more than others.

[pyroguy]

There's a lot of truth to this. If you get burned in a relationship as a guy, you're guy friends don't tell you how good looking you are, or take you shopping for new clothes, or talk you up.

 

Usually they'll say, "Yeah, she was hot. Mind if I take a run at her since you are out of the picture?"

 

Even when they try to be supportive they do it by making jokes about it. Men are not going to try to cheer you up, they are going to tell you to forget her and then change the subject.

 

I recently had a girl dump me and she started dating a guy in a sports league I am in. If we go to a bar after and she is there I try to ignore it but every time someone would make a joke about her being there with him. It's no big deal, that's how it is, but it's not like I am going to say what I really think or feel because it will be met with a joke at my expense.

 

 

And this, in my opinion is a big issue, and a huge social advantage that women enjoy. Men, simply cannot be insecure or emotional, especially in front of other men.

 

For the past decade or two, women have had Opra, Tyra, and other female role models telling them how wonderful they are. Women have a large support group. Where they once succumbed to the media portrayal of the ideal woman, I think men now do. Men are just told to be strong, confident males, regardless of the situation. Nobody really talks men or young boys up, and they are taught not to show weakness or vulnerability. They have no Opra or Tyra. IMO, I believ thay are more insecure now, are conflicted about it, know they are not allowed to be, and sometimes lash out.

 

I think that's what you see from these posters. They are frustrated because 1) they exist in a society that is very high-standard/competitive,

2) They view themselves as the underdog, and it's tough being the one who is looking in from the outside.

3) They exist in said society in which they are not prepared for.

 

These posters may actually have a few valid points, but your anger is misplaced. If women have all these standards that you detest, what can you do about it? nothing You can only be the best you can. If it isn't good enough for a woman, so be it. I hate to be philosiphical, but the sun will shine tomorrow, your healthy, and have brains. Go live life. Want women, don't need them-and mean it. Speak to them as another person, not a love interest-and mean it. You would be surprised at the outcome. I'm not saying that will enable you to meet more women, but I bet you will be happier, less bitter, and it will show to both men and women.

Edited January 21, 2010 by pyroguy

[meerkat stew]

If the shoe fits... I love this: vomit up attacks on women day in and day out and when some "uppity" women strike back (effectively I might add), whine and play the poor pity me victim. You guys dish it out, but can't take the inevitable blow-back. It hurts your precious feelings. Man up, dude.

 

Where exactly are these "vomited up attacks?" List the threads you are talking about so that we can bring all this into the light of day. Based on all the whining about them, I expect a LONG list. Truth is, the list is very short, and they are just not a significant portion of the board.

 

Coming from someone who never bothers to respond directly to points made in reply to them, your status as an arbiter of what is "effective" argument is sorely in question.

 

Taramere's post above is just a list of direct personal insults aimed at specific posters, despite that they are unnamed, not even generalizations, just direct assumptive insults about presumed traits of specific posters in real life. I rarely see any of the presumed "woman haters" here engaging in that level of flaming, but perhaps I am missing all the many posts where they deliver 5-6 personal insults against specific posters in a single post. Then she displays the naivete to wonder, "why are men here so hostile?"

 

But again, LIST some of this dishing out of personal attacks as I LISTED Taramere's direct insults so we can compare them. Then we will know for sure the nature of the "dishing out" and can compare to the inevitable "blowback." You see, I'm interested in discussing and addressing the thread topic, unlike you "preachers."

 

"Man up dude" Really? Is this what passes for "effective" discussion in "Spider man with a gun world" these days? Do better.

 

This pot is still calling the kettle black. All responsibility is denied. The fault, as always, lies elsewhere. You just can't understand why there's reaction, can you? Of course, not.

 

Where did I deny any blame? Where for that matter did any of these guys deny any blame? This brings up a good point. Whenever men ask women to accept -any- blame for a social situation, political situation, what have you, this request is inevitably met with the above "you just want to put all the blame on women," when nothing could be further from the truth.

 

Only in bizarro logic land does asking someone to accept a -share- of blame for any situation equate to asking that they accept -all- blame. And -this- is also part of the topical issue in this thread. One of the reasons that supposed "anti-women" threads continue is because you will rarely see a woman agreeing that part of the blame for these men's issues rests on women. None of these guys would claim that none of the blame rests on them for their problems and attitudes, not a single one. Would be convenient for you and the other "holier than thous" if they did, so you -pretend- as if they do. It's just not the case though.

 

Projecting here are we not? You claim that Taramere's posts are a "big part of the problem." Are you sure of that? I don't remember Taramere damning an entire gender although I would certainly understand if she did as you, and your brothers, convert the Shack into a toxic waste dump with your bile.

 

Projecting -how- exactly, enough of the "half-points" please. What I'm sure of is her last long post here is crammed full of insults of specific though unnamed posters. There are more direct insults in that condescending, preachy post than in the rest of the thread combined. And yes, that IS a big part of the problem.

 

As far as converting the Shack into a toxic waste dump with bile goes, hyperbole much? The only real bile I've seen in -this- thread is in Taramere's post. Could be wrong, though, haven't reread carefully. Why don't you show me the bile here in this thread, or even elsewhere here.

 

The whole thread topic is really about 2-5 other threads, isn't it? If I'm mistaken, show me where are all these innumerable "down with women" threads? I don't see them.

[Trialbyfire]

The more people bite to the baiting, the more the baiting will continue, since it's not about conflict resolution, just more grandstanding and posturing. It's time to ignore.

[sumdude]

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[silverfish]

Ha ha thats brilliant....it does get a bit Monty Python in here at times

[Eve]

Sometimes in life I think that there are no other reasons other than because the person wants to do something. The anti whatever threads are an example of this. They post because they can.. and people read it and get mad.

 

Boring. I have concluded that it serves them right half the time for being alone... really its for the best.

 

Take care,

Eve xx

[meerkat stew]

The more people bite to the baiting, the more the baiting will continue, since it's not about conflict resolution, just more grandstanding and posturing. It's time to ignore.

 

You, Art Critic and some others are just as much of the topic problem as Taramere or especially any of the men who make all these supposed "anti-women" threads. You dismiss or spout platitudes about any post or poster you don't like, and assume a snobby, condescending tone about "the good ole days" of the forum when these threads didn't exist, when in actuality, those good ole days never existed. As stated before, as a lurker for several years, I know this to be true. Alphamale said the same thing.

 

The reality is that there are really very few of the threads that the topic calls into question, and if you think otherwise, LIST them, list the titles of all these many women bashing threads. Of course you won't do this, because such threads are few and insignificant in relation to the mass of the board and you know it.

 

Truthfully, I don't see you or art critic or any of these other supposed "old-time" posters who make an issue of being such making insightful or even funny posts. Seems for the most part that you just sit back and wait to jump on someone whose POV you don't like or spout platitudes. Don't even see you offering up much useful advice here or substantive points in your posts either, just lots of posturing, shouting down, dismissiveness, self-congratulatory band wagoning and faux indignation. Fine, if that's what you like, go at it, but it wears really thin.

 

Face it, you are no better, not one whit better, than any of the posters you sit and mock from your high horse. Get off it, and as far as the ignore button, I'm amazed you haven't used it yet in my case, as your posts reflect a closed, narrow-mindedness that likely results in an ignore list a mile long.

Edited January 21, 2010 by meerkat stew

[Trialbyfire]

Sometimes in life I think that there are no other reasons other than because the person wants to do something. The anti whatever threads are an example of this. They post because they can.. and people read it and get mad.

 

Boring. I have concluded that it serves them right half the time for being alone... really its for the best.

 

Take care,

Eve xx

This is why I say that those particular threads are counterproductive to the "victims" themselves. They're blatantly lonely individuals who've been rejected by society, due to their victim attitudes.