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...all these things are normal parts of life. Expect them or step away from the alter and life long vows.

 

Do you Preach everyday or only on Sundays?

If the topic were selecting a marriage partner, I would advise that it is best to choose someone with compatible values.

And if one of your values happens to be the willingness to abandon your apparent pre-marriage values, it is best to make that clear before the wedding.

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Do you Preach everyday or only on Sundays?

If the topic were selecting a marriage partner, I would advise that it is best to choose someone with compatible values.

And if one of your values happens to be the willingness to abandon your apparent pre-marriage values, it is best to make that clear before the wedding.

 

If you don't like different views than your own, you should probably also step away from the keyboard too. :rolleyes:

We've seen changes in each other and find love for them too. To be unable to do this is an indication that you cannot adapt. And you know what they say about a being's ability to adapt, right?

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Back to the OP, this is my view..

 

If I am going to have sex with a woman, I do not want to see rolls of fat preventing my entry. I do not want to see thunder thighs, or big stomachs hanging down.. Most men, and myself feel this is nasty.

 

All men LOVE curvy women.. However, I feel many obese women call themselves "curvy", and this is not an accurate adjective for their appearance.. A woman can be 5 ft 10, 140, and have curves. That is curvy. Stop trying to find nice sounding adjectives for an unnatractive appearance. if you are fat, calling your self curvy does not change the fact that you are fat.

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I LOVE my size 14 frame(36-31-40)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was a size 10 at the age of 10. Fast forward 20+ years and two babies, not too bad. Athletic and have a very active lifestyle. It is amazing how shocked people are when they see me play tennis for 2+ hours, hike 2 hours, elliptical 40+ minutes, or bike ride up to 15 miles. I see MANY curvy bodies in the gym and WE are performing better in the kickboxing and cycling classes than the slim ladies.....so hilarious. There are many curvy women who are healthy and active. What's on the inside is most important, however IMO, what you wear is important. I would not put my hips into a pencil skirt, BUT, some thick women do it.lol

 

Neckbone or Steak????

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Back to the OP, this is my view..

 

If I am going to have sex with a woman, I do not want to see rolls of fat preventing my entry. I do not want to see thunder thighs, or big stomachs hanging down.. Most men, and myself feel this is nasty.

 

All men LOVE curvy women.. However, I feel many obese women call themselves "curvy", and this is not an accurate adjective for their appearance.. A woman can be 5 ft 10, 140, and have curves. That is curvy. Stop trying to find nice sounding adjectives for an unnatractive appearance. if you are fat, calling your self curvy does not change the fact that you are fat.

 

Valid point. Everybody has a different opinion of what "fat" or "obese" is to them. Women have different frames and genes and everyone is not built to be a size 2. Those women in the photos were beautiful and average size women. Yet some would consider them fat!

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Back to the OP, this is my view..

 

If I am going to have sex with a woman, I do not want to see rolls of fat preventing my entry. I do not want to see thunder thighs, or big stomachs hanging down.. Most men, and myself feel this is nasty.

 

All men LOVE curvy women.. However, I feel many obese women call themselves "curvy", and this is not an accurate adjective for their appearance.. A woman can be 5 ft 10, 140, and have curves. That is curvy. Stop trying to find nice sounding adjectives for an unnatractive appearance. if you are fat, calling your self curvy does not change the fact that you are fat.

 

This sounds right to me.

 

5'10" 120s = skinny

5'10" 130s = lean

5'10" 140s to 150 = curvy

5'10" 151to 159 = maybe curvy, maybe fat, maybe muscular

5'10" 160+ = chubby

 

Monster

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Curvy has to do with shape, not weight. :rolleyes:

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Curvy has to do with shape, not weight. :rolleyes:

 

Indeed, that too.

 

5'10" 140lbs 38-27-39 = curvy

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Valid point. Everybody has a different opinion of what "fat" or "obese" is to them. Women have different frames and genes and everyone is not built to be a size 2. Those women in the photos were beautiful and average size women. Yet some would consider them fat!

 

They are beautiful, but a bit chubby.

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Back to the OP, this is my view..

 

If I am going to have sex with a woman, I do not want to see rolls of fat preventing my entry. I do not want to see thunder thighs, or big stomachs hanging down.. Most men, and myself feel this is nasty.

 

All men LOVE curvy women.. However, I feel many obese women call themselves "curvy", and this is not an accurate adjective for their appearance.. A woman can be 5 ft 10, 140, and have curves. That is curvy. Stop trying to find nice sounding adjectives for an unnatractive appearance. if you are fat, calling your self curvy does not change the fact that you are fat.

 

 

Ok I appreciate your honestly very nice, however if you look at the links that I provided especially the one with the group of models they are HOT no question, I hardly think that your entry if you will.

 

I doubt that if one of those women were in front of you, you would think oh I have to measure her BMI first before I mount her.

 

The fact is that attractiveness is more then just being the perfect weight or height there are other factors that go into the equasion not just over weight or underweight. You can tell when someone takes care of themselves emotionally and physically that goes for all weights.

 

I have my preference when it comes to men for instance I would rather be with a man that was a little overweight but was clean cut and funny then a 100% fit/cut/rich jerk.

 

Also I am not saying that men are supposed to be with women that they do not find attractive hey I would not want to be with a man that I did not find attractive in some way, however what I am saying is women who do not have the ideal model body type are also desirable everyone or most everyone has something that makes them attractive.

 

I would just like to say here that the men that I have had relationships with and I mean long term have been very attractive and fit and to clarify even further when I say long term I mean 3+ years

 

Do you see my point?

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The fact is that attractiveness is more then just being the perfect weight or height there are other factors that go into the equasion not just over weight or underweight. You can tell when someone takes care of themselves emotionally and physically that goes for all weights.

 

Well, first of all, please learn the difference between a fact and an opinion. What you are saying is your opinion, and is not a fact.

 

Second, does anyone really argue weight and height or just BMI is all you need to determine attractiveness? I don't think any rational person would argue such, seeing as there are tremendous variations between people that skew BMI's accuracy.

 

In my opinion, excess body fat on a woman is unattractive. I find some curves to be nice, but once you get into 20+ pounds of fat extra, it's a detriment. In fact, I think those models you posted earlier would look better by losing some weight. That is just how I feel looking at them.

 

Do all men think like me? of course not. Some men love the extra cushion :) . But some men like thinner women, some like bigger women, some like em all. lol.

 

I have my preference when it comes to men for instance I would rather be with a man that was a little overweight but was clean cut and funny then a 100% fit/cut/rich jerk.

 

If all else was equal, would you go with the fit and cut guy or the average looking guy?

 

however what I am saying is women who do not have the ideal model body type are also desirable everyone or most everyone has something that makes them attractive.

 

ok? Is anyone arguing the opposite? Woman don't really have problems with finding men. Pretty much every woman can easily find a guy, but men have the hardest time finding even one woman. So in any case, most women are desirable in some respect.

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I would go with the average looking guy if he had other qualities that made him attractive like a sense of humor and if he was clean cut vs someone that was just a jerk but with a beautiful body adn face...

 

Also I really don't think it is easy for women to get men like you say

 

Also being attractive IS more then just being the perfect weight you can't go soley on looks

 

If one of those women were in front of you you would turn your head because they are attractive you would try to talk to her ect ect...

 

Please the men who say that they would not be ga ga are really holding back

 

ok curvey women with sex appeal...

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They are beautiful, but a bit chubby.

 

 

ok lets also talk about women who are body builders, they have thick thighs ect would you rather have a womanly body or someone that had muscles galore, and lets make myself clear these women are beautiful in thier own way, they are athletes and work hard at what they do.

 

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://izismile.com/img/img2/20091007/great_body_00.jpg&imgrefurl=http://izismile.com/tags/Body/&usg=__SY0TxEMTxWAHiSXuvlUrpDhyZJk=&h=512&w=640&sz=75&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=sX2T2JmTYYfbsM:&tbnh=110&tbnw=137&prev=/image

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People have different preferences and this is absolutely fine so let's not trash each other here. I'm more of an 8 above and 12 below the waist which could be described as chubby by some, and loved by others such as my BF:love:.

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I would go with the average looking guy if he had other qualities that made him attractive like a sense of humor and if he was clean cut vs someone that was just a jerk but with a beautiful body adn face...

 

I said if all else was equal, meaning looks is the only difference.

 

Also I really don't think it is easy for women to get men like you say

 

because?

 

Also being attractive IS more then just being the perfect weight you can't go soley on looks

 

That's your opinion.

 

If one of those women were in front of you you would turn your head because they are attractive you would try to talk to her ect ect...

 

I find them somewhat attractive. I would find them more attractive if they were thinner. And I wouldn't talk to them, I don't want to be a cheater :)

 

Please the men who say that they would not be ga ga are really holding back

 

Are you a man? Are you every man in the world? Are you inside of the heads of every man in the world?

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no I am not every man but neither are you :)

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no I am not every man but neither are you :)

 

I'm not pretending to be. I'm not the one saying what you would do in a hypothetical situation, or what every guy in the world would do, like in this:

 

If one of those women were in front of you you would turn your head because they are attractive you would try to talk to her ect ect...
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ok Jay your right

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I'm a size 26/28 42/d and Ive never gone more then a few months with out a partner I think allot more men are into plus size women then they will admit for fear of being put down for it sad but true :rolleyes:

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I'm curious...what about women who are thin but have big boobs (natural or fake) and little waists. Are they considered curvy too, or is it just 'plus size' women?

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let me not lie here. ever since a kid my mom read elle, vogue and marie claire. i grew up thinking only model size women where hot and only that type.

 

then one night drunk, saw a cute thing across the bar and yes we did it.

 

but man did it open up a whole new world for me and suddenly i had a wider variation of choice. yay!

 

most say curved women not fugly have warm bodies.

 

later that year i went out with a black girl who was "stacked" and the choice widened. more yay.

 

don't know about the rest of you all. but i know what i like and don't care what is socially considered beautifull or hot or acceptable. as long as i am attracted to you. i most have you.

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Women whom are overweight are sometimes very attractive and beautiful - so long as its not excessive and they take care of themselves.

 

Her personality means alot more. If that clicks and we're on the same page, nothing is holding me back.

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I'm curious...what about women who are thin but have big boobs (natural or fake) and little waists. Are they considered curvy too, or is it just 'plus size' women?

 

When I think of curvy, I think of a woman with a few (or more) extra pounds, but is still proportional.

 

A thin woman can also have curves. But I would either use a different description altogether (top-heavy) instead of curvy or would add a clarification and say she is slender but curvy.

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Women whom are overweight are sometimes very attractive and beautiful - so long as its not excessive and they take care of themselves.

 

Her personality means alot more. If that clicks and we're on the same page, nothing is holding me back.

 

Thanks for your reply, I know that personality has allot to do with it, I know that all of my previous boyfriends were all different looking and personality wise it was more than a physical attraction because of how different they were race included.

 

If you put a blindfold on and you only judge on personality and each are equally good looking in thier own way the one that clicks the most will deifinatly be the one that is long term, that is just my opinion, having the "IT" factor goes deeper than lookes

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but sometimes I feel that when men say that they won't date a woman who is overweight it is a excuse for his lack of confidence ect... I mean how attractive are these men anyway who is to say that they would be desired?

 

Eh, you can feel that but it will never be true. Maybe you dont talk to enough men. Its not because of lack of confidence, its because a man knows who he wants to see naked before meeting the woman - he knows what hes attracted to, and acts accordingly. But once you ask how attractive these men are, you blow your whole point on looking past looks.

 

ok then not the ideal....but still attractive

 

I know men are visual, however aren't men attracted to other things as well?

 

Yes they are, but physical is half the attraction - for most people.

 

What I've noticed is that many men who are looking for physical perfection in women, are compensating for their own lack of physical perfection.

 

How did you notice this, did they tell you?

 

It can also be an entitlement thing, irrespective of the guy's own attractiveness. Some guys choose mates by how well they reflect on themselves. They have the mentality "Well don't I deserve a woman who is perfect looking?" It's like shopping for a car or house. It's all wrapped up in ego, and not really about looking for somebody who is necessarily the most compatible.

 

These are the same type of men who mostly surround themselves with friends of a certain status or attractiveness level. People are accessories to them. Deep down it's based in insecurity.

 

We just had an argument in another thread on how women do this. So everyone does it, not just men. You still going to call it insecurity?

 

 

If you put a blindfold on and you only judge on personality and each are equally good looking in thier own way the one that clicks the most will deifinatly be the one that is long term, that is just my opinion, having the "IT" factor goes deeper than lookes

 

Sorry to break it to ya, but the world doesnt wear blindfolds and it never will. We have eyes for many reasons. If youre not getting what you want and you think its because of yoursize, then you will have to do something about it eventually, or nothing.

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