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Wow. You're certainly good at labeling. Just because she laid out the events in this scenario so we could better understand the situation, you jump to the conclusion that she ALWAYS keeps a tally book in her back pocket and writes down all her expenditures on dates or something.

 

I don't see it that way. Maybe it's because I just address the situation as presented instead of assuming things about someone I don't even know. :confused:

 

You've made a lot of assumptions about me. And you are pretty good at putting words in my mouth that were not what I said or intended.

 

I don't see the "who was paying how much for each date" as part of the relevant scenario. I have stated this. I think the guys she was seeing in the OP can be determined as users without that information.

 

I'd guess that you do see that the who pays information is relevant. That doesn't make either of us wrong. There is no one right way to look at things or to date.

 

I don't think you're wrong in how you see the situation, we just have different opinions on the matter, which is fine. Let's just agree to disagree and not clog up the OP's thread even further with us going back and forth. If you want to continue, I won't mind going back and forth in PM's. It's just not very productive or considerate of either of us to do that in a thread that isn't either of ours.

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.... I even paid so he could watch porn stars writhing on the symbian on the Howard Stern Show..

 

Howard Stern has porn stars 'writhing' on cellular phones? How does that work? Is this a special model symbian with a strong vibrate mode?

Posted

I met this guy while on vacation...long story short, he stayed over 2 nights, I had a room by myself in a great 5 star hotel, last day I left at 6am, he stayed, (I told him to, no worries)...so I pay the bill, 15 days later, hotel charges me like 60 extra for minibar...like 12 items, on the last morning...:mad:

 

What would u think?

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Guy A: First date he paid ($20)

 

second date: i paid for my own. He never offered. I felt as though he should have paid. ($40)

 

 

Guy B: First date he paid ($25)

Second date he paid ($15)

Third time i saw him he asked me if i had money so he could buy a snack while at the movies. I also drove and paid for the movie. ($35)

 

 

I need to feel like he can be "the man" seems like i might be dating some cheap guys?

 

Those guys do sound like they might be cheap. However, you have to realize that many women have no problem with going out with guys just to get a free meal. Maybe you are doing something that makes them think that you just view them as a meal ticket?

Posted
I met this guy while on vacation...long story short, he stayed over 2 nights, I had a room by myself in a great 5 star hotel, last day I left at 6am, he stayed, (I told him to, no worries)...so I pay the bill, 15 days later, hotel charges me like 60 extra for minibar...like 12 items, on the last morning...:mad:

 

What would u think?

 

I think you're a sex tourist and your man-whore took advantage of you.

Posted
Howard Stern has porn stars 'writhing' on cellular phones? How does that work? Is this a special model symbian with a strong vibrate mode?

 

no on his radio and cable tv show.. both of which I paid the subscriptions for. There's nothing quite like leaving for another hard day at work with the sounds of your husband cheering in the background as he settles in for another difficult day watching porn.

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no on his radio and cable tv show.. both of which I paid the subscriptions for. There's nothing quite like leaving for another hard day at work with the sounds of your husband cheering in the background as he settles in for another difficult day watching porn.

lol!

 

But why did you allow this to happen, though?

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no on his radio and cable tv show..

 

Well I can understand your being pissed off about the freeloading husband, but I still don't see where symbian could possibly be linked to any sort of porn. Is it some sort of phone fetish porn?

 

I guess Apple has fanboys but Nokia really takes it to the next level.

Posted
lol!

 

But why did you allow this to happen, though?

 

because I'm an old broad, my chances of landing a husband without opening my wallet are slim and none!

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TWO things:

 

1. Men wouldn't never treat their dream girl like this

 

2. Who ASKED who out on the date? Was you or them? Frankly, I think whoever asks someone out on a date should be the one to foot the bill because when you ask someone out, YOU'RE asking THAT PERSON to ACCOMPANY YOU for the evening. It's just etiquette. Would you invite people to your house for dinner and tell them they should have brought a bag lunch when they show up? Same idea.

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Well I can understand your being pissed off about the freeloading husband, but I still don't see where symbian could possibly be linked to any sort of porn. Is it some sort of phone fetish porn?

 

I guess Apple has fanboys but Nokia really takes it to the next level.

 

The porn stars rode a machine called a symbian.. with Howard and crew watching and cheering them on.

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The porn stars rode a machine called a symbian.. with Howard and crew watching and cheering them on.

 

Dear, Symbian is an embedded operating system and trademark used by Nokia and several other vendors for cellular phone and PDAs. You must be mistaken.

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Dear, Symbian is an embedded operating system and trademark used by Nokia and several other vendors for cellular phone and PDAs. You must be mistaken.

 

I've probably got the spelling wrong. I'm not wrong though about what was being shown.

 

ok,the machine is called the sybian

Posted
TWO things:

 

1. Men wouldn't never treat their dream girl like this

 

2. Who ASKED who out on the date? Was you or them? Frankly, I think whoever asks someone out on a date should be the one to foot the bill because when you ask someone out, YOU'RE asking THAT PERSON to ACCOMPANY YOU for the evening. It's just etiquette. Would you invite people to your house for dinner and tell them they should have brought a bag lunch when they show up? Same idea.

 

I agree. However I think the sticking point is women to feel entitled or expect the man to pay.

 

The OP has a sense of entitlement and even though Guy B paid for the first 2 dates, it still wasn't good enough for her.

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The OP has a sense of entitlement and even though Guy B paid for the first 2 dates, it still wasn't good enough for her.

 

I think she wasn't that into him and is just using cheap as a cheap excuse.

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I think she wasn't that into him and is just using cheap as a cheap excuse.

 

If that were the case, she sure wouldn't have minded using him for money and paying for things would she?

Posted
If that were the case, she sure wouldn't have minded using him for money and paying for things would she?

 

I think she just dumped him after the gravy train ran dry (3rd date) but maybe I'm just cynical.

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Women shouldn't feel entitled to anything, just like Men shouldn't. That being said, don't go on a date expecting the bill to be paid for because you lack male genitalia.

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hello everyone,

 

 

I am happy to report GUY A AND GUY B ARE out of my life!!!:) I have more money in my pocket for future dates with decent men who WILL TRY TO ROMANCE ME AND NOT USE ME for MONEY! That being said,

 

I am happy to be single, working out, caring about myself, caring about others! I genuinely do care about people, except the ones that don't care about me!

 

So, I have not been on another date as my schedule has been very hectic. I am talking with a man right now who is pretty attentive..but maybe be too young for me and its long distance, otherwise I'm still open to other people who are close to me. :D He knows a friend who knows me and he contacted me.

 

I AM NOT ON A DATING SITE. I won't use this to meet a guy because I'm just to freaked out by the idea of meeting up with someone sketchy.

 

I was falling for guy B i will admit..it was a fairy tale in the beginning till he started being a free loader! He was "street smart" i should say, he was very attractive, great kisser!!!, but all of that does not make up for him using me. Did i mention he wanted me to DRIVE HIM AND HIS FRIENDS PLACES AFTER a COUPLE OF DATES!!! Things just added up and I can't live like that.

 

So this new guy is attractive, seems smart, but I don't know yet. I think eventually we will go on a date and see where it goes. I need human contact, i don't fall for a guy unless i meet him and hang out with him to see what type of person he is.

 

 

SO they were both cheap and sloppy.

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So say you have plans to be somewhere at a particular time. A new girlfriend says, "Can you give me a ride to my friend's house (because she's obviously a loser and doesn't have her own car or whatever :rolleyes:) and you say, "Well, I have to be at such-and-such a place by XXX time," to which she replies, "Oh, it's only 20 minutes from here." Then you drive - and drive - and drive. It takes you an HOUR to get there, and now you're late for your obligation.

 

Would you feel used?

 

Lucky, some posters just need to be put on ignore.

 

 

This is exactly what he started doing. I couldn't believe it. When i began dating him I knew he had a job, didn't have a car (so i met up with him in places that were close to him because i didn't know him that well), and I was giving it a shot since we seemed to have chemistry.

 

And that was the last straw when he said to bring him 20 minutes away to meet up with his friends, I told him I had to be somewhere but he insisted it was not that far. However, it was pretty far. He just didn't want to have to pay for the cab to get there!

The feelings of chemistry DIED. It was remarkable how i felt about him, my heart would RACE, never had that happen to me. But me being cautious and looking for the real thing decided to ENJOY time with him and get to know him better and its a good thing i did!

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I just don't get it.. Women want to be 'equal' to men.. but yet expect them to pay all the time.. or most of the time..

 

What is it with that?

 

I think, if I were a man, I wouldn't want to date a woman if I had to pay all the time.. I would see her as a 'parasite' or dependant financially and it would be a turn-off.

 

I make good money.. I don't mind if I pay the first, second, third..whatever date.. I'm independant.. I don't need any man to pay for my stuff...

 

If I am dating the guy.. I can pay, he can pay.. whatever..

 

If I don't think I will see him again.. then I either pay for the whole thing or pay my own stuff...

 

I just don't get the 'men-have-to-pay-for-dates' thing.. especially when women boost about being independant. :rolleyes:

Posted
But Lizzie you're always bragging about all the gifts and money you get from all your MM. What's the difference? If they NEVER gave you gifts, would you still continue to "do" them? Or would you move on to the next MM who gave you things?

 

Just an honest question, not a bash session. :)

 

some of these MMs are friends with benefit$ if you know what I mean.. I don't 'date' them per se... the ones (singles or married) that I date.. I do what I just posted.

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But Lizzie you're always bragging about all the gifts and money you get from all your MM. What's the difference? If they NEVER gave you gifts, would you still continue to "do" them? Or would you move on to the next MM who gave you things?

 

Just an honest question, not a bash session. :)

 

Why would I do them 'for free'... I'm not the Mother Theresa of MMs.. :laugh: I don't 'owe' them anything.. I have fun.. and also get the benefit$.

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hello everyone,

 

 

I am happy to report GUY A AND GUY B ARE out of my life!!!:)

 

Thats great news!!!!..................for them.

 

 

 

I have more money in my pocket for future dates with decent men who WILL TRY TO ROMANCE ME AND NOT USE ME for MONEY!

 

You mean like how you are using men for money?:rolleyes:

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Women shouldn't feel entitled to anything, just like Men shouldn't. That being said, don't go on a date expecting the bill to be paid for because you lack male genitalia.

 

 

 

I wonder what transexuals do on a date then. :cool:

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