S.T.C Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Isolde is a big girl, I am sure she can look after herself and if she wants to post on here, she should expect a retaliation from some posters who find the nature of one of her posts as degrading and offensive. If a man had posted a thread about women with whacked out Vags, everyone on here would demand that poster was banned and hung from a pinetree. Isolde posted on here and if she is feeling the heat then she should get out of the kitchen.
kizik Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Why do you use women as a measurement of you? STC, Mr. Sarcasm, if you read the exchange below you will see that I was ironically commenting on Ruby Slippers' claim that being tall and attractive makes people like you and listen to you more. Quote: Originally Posted by Ruby Slippers I think it is true that people listen to you and pay attention when you're tall. Those studies that show attractive people are more successful also find that success correlates positively with height as well, for both men and women. No wonder no one listens to me, and now I understand why I am unsuccessful: I am short and ugly!
S.T.C Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 You seem like a guy with a chip on his shoulder, what's wrong got a small shipmate? In all seriousness, this thread has shown me how whacked out some women are, the Girl I like and who I am certain likes me (well she did) didn't see my height as a disadvantage and she is taller than me, I'm 5ft 7/8' and she is about 5ft 9 (I'm guessing) and she was very forward about her interest in me.
kizik Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 You seem like a guy with a chip on his shoulder, what's wrong got a small shipmate? In all seriousness, this thread has shown me how whacked out some women are, the Girl I like and who I am certain likes me (well she did) didn't see my height as a disadvantage and she is taller than me, I'm 5ft 7/8' and she is about 5ft 9 (I'm guessing) and she was very forward about her interest in me. I would say that my penis is of average size. Anyway, the reason your girl likes you is because you have a personality. A lot of women on this thread seem to be putting forth that there's no way they would ever date a guy who wasn't 6'6" or some sh*t. To me this says, "I only care about looks."
CommitmentPhobe Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Taller men stand taller. They have more confidence and therefore are closer to that alpha male we all seek. If you meet one that out alphas and has more confidence than Tom Cruise do let us know....
Ruby Slippers Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Look - I am a short guy, and to be honest, it just hurts my feelings coming on here and seeing a bunch of women say they wouldn't be attracted to me. I think if you got to know me, or many short guys for that matter, we would win you over with our humor, charm, and intelligence. Sorry, dude, but boo hoo. It might hurt my feelings that a man would pick a woman next to me over me because she's shorter, thinner, prettier, has a smaller nose, longer hair, bigger eyes, whatever, but it's not gonna get me anywhere to cry to him about it. Maybe I'm smarter, kinder, funnier, more loyal, or better in bed, but most men on this board will tell you they don't give a crap and what matters first and foremost is how hot you are. It's a harsh truth -- but it is the truth. Everyone has their appearance preferences, some more than others, and you're probably not going to talk them out of them. The way we are perceived and the way other people treat us is a signficant factor in these choices. A guy who gets the hot chick is high-fived by his friends, and a guy who chooses a less attractive girl is questioned and teased about it. And unfortunately, a lot of people are judgmental about tall women with short men. When I had a boyfriend who was a mere INCH shorter than me, people teased us about it! They made me out to be a giant and him out to be a shrimp, which was far from the truth. He was pretty built and had at least 30-40 pounds on me. I think we looked great together. People can be pretty retarded, but their opinions do influence the choices of others, again to varying degrees. I agree with other posters who have said that there is someone for everyone. I don't care how tall, short, fat, skinny, hairy, bald, gorgeous, or homely you are, there is a group of people who comprise your target market. We all have things about us that make us totally unique and give us a monopoly in the heart of the person who wants what we've got.
Trialbyfire Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 If you meet one that out alphas and has more confidence than Tom Cruise do let us know.... Cruise is a nutbar. There's alpha and then there's Napoleon complex!
CommitmentPhobe Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Cruise is a nutbar. There's alpha and then there's Napoleon complex! Not the point though, if he walked into a room with 99.9999999999% of other males he'd be the one getting the attention. So he's definitely alpha whackjob or not. I agreed with the OP when she stated she didn't want a short guy if that's her preference, when it got into the whole oh I want an alpha crap to justify it, no-one really cares. It's just not applicable.
berrieh Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Nonononono I was saying that GIRLS SUBCONSCIOUSLY THINK THEY WOULD HAVE SHORT KIDS AND IT BOTHERS THEM AT THE BACK OF THEIR MIND. I think you have a bit of a point (ironically, I haven't read any studies of women, but I did read in an advanced anthropology class one time about several studies that showed taller men were subconsciously attracted to shorter women, and shorter men attracted to taller women -- because they were worried about the heigh of their kids: too tall or too short, wanting to even it out), but funnily enough, this is the one downside I see to dating tall guys. Big, giant babies. That does not sound fun to my lady parts. At any rate, I'm 5'4'' and used to mandate guys be 5'8'' because I always wore 4'' heels. All my boyfriends were 6' tall and greater really (as well as lanky/skinny 'cause that's my type) until a couple of years ago when I fell for a guy who was the total opposite: he was barely 5'8'', maybe 5'7'', and slightly overweight (not a lot, but he was definitely not lanky). He was the only guy I ever fell in love with and I was deeply attracted to him. So, if someone's physical traits are a turnoff, I don't think it's shallow so much as they're not really right for you. If you met Mr. Perfect, you wouldn't care that he was 5'7''. It'd change your world. (Or maybe Mr. Perfect will be 6'5'' for all I know...). But the point is, that if it does matter, then it matters, and you can't change how you feel. As long as you can find success and you're not asking to date way out of your league and getting nowhere... it's fine to have things you look for.
Ruby Slippers Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 ...but I did read in an advanced anthropology class one time about several studies that showed taller men were subconsciously attracted to shorter women, and shorter men attracted to taller women -- because they were worried about the heigh of their kids: too tall or too short, wanting to even it out), but funnily enough, this is the one downside I see to dating tall guys. I have also read that tall people have shorter lifespans, on average. The heart has to work harder to pump blood further, so it gives out sooner. So, there's something short people have over tall -- more years hobbling around on their walkers with no idea which way is up or down. This makes sense, then, from an evolutionary stable strategy: you don't want to produce offspring that are TOO tall because they will have a shorter lifespan. But you want them to be tall/large enough to be strong and protect their mate and offspring and all that jazz.
berrieh Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I have also read that tall people have shorter lifespans, on average. The heart has to work harder to pump blood further, so it gives out sooner. So, there's something short people have over tall -- more years hobbling around on their walkers with no idea which way is up or down. This makes sense, then, from an evolutionary stable strategy: you don't want to produce offspring that are TOO tall because they will have a shorter lifespan. But you want them to be tall/large enough to be strong and protect their mate and offspring and all that jazz. Yes. From my personal experience, a man who is closer in height (on the shorter range of what I've dated) is better in bed. I've had boyfriends who were very tall, and there were some issues that the shorter ones never had. Maybe, my bad luck, but I've always figured bloodflow factored into that... Physical leverage in bed is better if you're closer in height, too. Perhaps short boys can find some solace in that.
blind_otter Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 My exH was a short man. I think he was like 5'6 or so, I don't remember his exact height. He had "short man syndrome" - constantly trying to overcompensate for his own self-perceived physical inadequacies. The truth was, he was an attractive man - it was his own insecurities that made him unattractive when all was said and done. To this day he is still insecure about himself, but he works out obsessively and has a neck thicker than my thigh to try to overcompensate for it. I've never really had a height preference, beyond NOT wanting to date a man who was taller than 6' or 6'1. I'm only 5' tall fergawdsake, I am not attracted to men who are SO much taller than me that I feel like a small child. The only problem I've ever encountered with men who were shorter than average is that they tend to have personal issues about their height that manifest in various unattractive ways, depending on the individual. The most attractive men, in my mind, are those who don't obsess about what they look like, and who exercise merely to be able to further utilize their bodies in whatever skills and acitivites they pursue.
Yamaha Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Nonononono I was saying that GIRLS SUBCONSCIOUSLY THINK THEY WOULD HAVE SHORT KIDS AND IT BOTHERS THEM AT THE BACK OF THEIR MIND. You might not think I'm pretty, or your "type," and I couldn't change that, but it wouldn't make you an a**, and it wouldn't mean I had a defect. I was teasing about the a** comment, Isolde. I am curious why it bothers women so much to think they would have short kids? I can understand they want the best for their children but to worry about being short or ugly seems petty. I would hope they are born healthy.
movingonandon Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 i had a date with a guy who is the same height as me. Everything else was ok but it bugs me that he is so short. I mean really bugs me. I find i have this problem a lot. I cannot overlook it. Should I not date men unless they meet a minimum height requirement - that cuts out a whole load of men - but i cannot bear to have a man the same height as me. Its not on. Eat It! I'm 5'7, and so is Al Pacino. And both of uss are badasses :lmao: (and can handle girlie even taller than us, if necessary ) Actually, I'm 5'8, but you should still eat it .
CommitmentPhobe Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I was teasing about the a** comment, Isolde. I am curious why it bothers women so much to think they would have short kids? I can understand they want the best for their children but to worry about being short or ugly seems petty. I would hope they are born healthy. Oh you'll get this evolutionary argument over several things male related. The good provider, the hunter, the superior genes etc. etc. This is where men are different, you wouldn't hear an evolutionary argument to state that big tits are better for the childs well being by providing more milk, you'd just hear that they're fun to play with.
Isolde Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Oh you'll get this evolutionary argument over several things male related. The good provider, the hunter, the superior genes etc. etc. This is where men are different, you wouldn't hear an evolutionary argument to state that big tits are better for the childs well being by providing more milk, you'd just hear that they're fun to play with. Big boobs and a small waist and perhaps even certain facial features can indicate fertility. They're not the most accurate markers of it, but they are signals.
Yamaha Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Oh you'll get this evolutionary argument over several things male related. The good provider, the hunter, the superior genes etc. etc. This is where men are different, you wouldn't hear an evolutionary argument to state that big tits are better for the childs well being by providing more milk, you'd just hear that they're fun to play with. But why is being a tall alphamale superior?
Isolde Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Yes. From my personal experience, a man who is closer in height (on the shorter range of what I've dated) is better in bed. I've had boyfriends who were very tall, and there were some issues that the shorter ones never had. Maybe, my bad luck, but I've always figured bloodflow factored into that... Physical leverage in bed is better if you're closer in height, too. Perhaps short boys can find some solace in that. I've had sex with 2 people: an avg height guy and a tall guy. The avg height guy was infinitely better in bed, though I was perhaps less attracted to his aura/personality overall.
Isolde Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 But why is being a tall alphamale superior? It's not. I don't think tall equals alpha at all. To me alpha is a personality, not a size.
eiithan Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I'm 5'6'' female and do not like tall (6'+) guys at all. It's a pain on my neck to look up (literally, I'm not joking) and I don't like to be physically overwhelmed. I prefer a partner whom I could be physically equal. However...he has to have a pair of beautiful eyes and an outstanding brain. Like really really smart. And a compassionate heart towards others. Not sure my chances are though...the combination of a supreme brain and a kind, understanding heart seem to be a bit difficult to find in mid 20s.
Trialbyfire Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Yes. From my personal experience, a man who is closer in height (on the shorter range of what I've dated) is better in bed. I've had boyfriends who were very tall, and there were some issues that the shorter ones never had. Maybe, my bad luck, but I've always figured bloodflow factored into that... Physical leverage in bed is better if you're closer in height, too. Perhaps short boys can find some solace in that. Wha? Where there's a will, there's a way!
kizik Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I'm 5'6'' female and do not like tall (6'+) guys at all. It's a pain on my neck to look up (literally, I'm not joking) and I don't like to be physically overwhelmed. I prefer a partner whom I could be physically equal. However...he has to have a pair of beautiful eyes and an outstanding brain. Like really really smart. And a compassionate heart towards others. Not sure my chances are though...the combination of a supreme brain and a kind, understanding heart seem to be a bit difficult to find in mid 20s. I think we were made for each other, i hope you live in Oregon
Yamaha Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 It's not. I don't think tall equals alpha at all. To me alpha is a personality, not a size. But that is what the OP wants in a man, a tall alphamale, so in her mind he must be superior, to her.
kizik Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 PS. to eiithan: I'm 25, so hold out hope. We do exist.
eiithan Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 PS. to eiithan: I'm 25, so hold out hope. We do exist. I hope you're right! :-) Unfortunately I don't live in Oregon...and am still recovering from a breakup so I won't be dating until sometime next year. But I am sure there are other women like me! Good luck!
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