Question for MEN only about hookers, really better than "civilian" women?

[norajane]

I was waiting for this post to happen, took surprisingly long .

But here's anmother interpretation: people who feel compelled to judge the sexual choices of others (and harshly so) suffer unbearable quilt from the mere fact of having genitals, and due to christian fundamentalist upbringing or other equally traumatic factors, see no other way to alleviate this quilt except by seeking ways to impose it on others. The others, on the other hand, could not care less. Go snuggle with your bible, and careful with the masturbation, or else you'll go blind!

 

 

Sorry, I can't help but think that men who go to prostitutes are desperate and skanky.

 

Just like many men can't help but think that women who f*ck them the same night they meet them are skanky ho's.

[Trialbyfire]

SushiX, if you're happy with your choice of bed partner, that's fine. It's your life. Just don't speak for all men because not all men want to or should want to. You might be surprised how many men are more discerning and hygienically fastidious.

[OpenBook]

No, I don't have a lower regard for women after having sex with a prostitute. Just a different perception about them. Let's just say I'm not as shy as before I had a prostitute and that I don't have to be choosen. I can choose as well.

 

This sounds like the power issue that cutegirl was talking about. Is sex really all about power, for both men and women?

 

And re: the perception thing, I have my own theory about it - I believe that men who frequent prostitutes typically ALREADY have a lower regard for women in general. They're just playing it out on a prostitute, because no sane "civilian" woman would ever consent to having sex with them.

 

Am I way off here??

[Humbleman]

Let me guess.. you never had a prostitute right? or had a bad experience with one? You should try those high end escort services, not the random street walkers. There's a huge difference in quality among those women.

 

The thought of having a woman who has had sex with hundred of guys going up and down my penis like a turbulent stock exchange makes me feel ill.

[SushiX]

SushiX, if you're happy with your choice of bed partner, that's fine. It's your life. Just don't speak for all men because not all men want to or should want to. You might be surprised how many men are more discerning and hygienically fastidious.

 

I'm not speaking for all men, but I would say most. I'm not saying all men should try a prostitute. That is there choice. All I'm saying is that most men who have had a prostitue had never regretted it but most who haven't, will regret it. Ask any man that's had a prostitute if they regret it. Then ask a man thats never had it and if the thought of having a prostitute ever crossed their mind?

[Trialbyfire]

I'm not speaking for all men, but I would say most. I'm not saying all men should try a prostitute. That is there choice. All I'm saying is that most men who have had a prostitue had never regretted it but most who haven't, will regret it. Ask any man that's had a prostitute if they regret it. Then ask a man thats never had it and if the thought of having a prostitute ever crossed their mind?

Fantasy is very different from reality. A guy can fantasize about a hooker but more often than not, it's all about power, control and dominance, which turns them on. When it comes to reality, the thought of going where every man has been before, will turn many off.

 

Also, most people feel a need to justify their own actions.

[SushiX]

Fantasy is very different from reality. A guy can fantasize about a hooker but more often than not, it's all about power, control and dominance, which turns them on. When it comes to reality, the thought of going where every man has been before, will turn many off.

 

Also, most people feel a need to justify their own actions.

 

I wasn't justifying my actions. I was just defending a point. I never regret my actions. I am actually proud of it because I'm no longer uninhibited like men who havent' had one. It's like a virgin saying "sex is overrated" lol

[Trialbyfire]

I wasn't justifying my actions. I was just defending a point. I never regret my actions. I am actually proud of it because I'm no longer uninhibited like men who havent' had one. It's like a virgin saying "sex is overrated" lol

Pragmatically speaking, if it's only about getting off, why shell out money for something you can do for yourself?

 

There's a strong psychological element for men who use or have used hookers. Sure, there's the element of the forbidden but there's far more associated to it. I strongly agree that men who use hookers, don't much like or respect women.

[cutegirl]

Maybe the men I've met are trash, but most of them will not tell you they had a prostitute! They tell other men, but never tell a women! Its a secret most men keep from women til marriage. This is another fact I can say about most men. Because honestly, how would most women feel if she knew her man had prostitute before?

 

I totally agree with this. I do not have any statistics at all to back this up, but my intuition tells me that 90 percent or at least a VERY HIGH percentage of men in the U.S have all been with hookers but they would NEVER admit it to a woman ever. Of course they talk to themselves among it. Men have a secret society where they will always back each other up, if a guy knows another guy is about to get caught cheating he will offer the guy an alibi and help him out. Men always protect each other and they will deny until the end of time.

 

Women just don't know the truth and are too naive. They think "MY man would NEVER do such a thing". I think they are just in denial. Pretty much all men do it.

[Lizzie60]

OMG... some people on here have noooo idea what they're talking about..

 

Some pervert/jerks.. have no respect for women.. I agree ... but in general, men that use the service of a prostitute (I'm not talking about streets drug addicts prostitutes) have tremendous respect for women in general.. that's probably why they use their service.. they just don't want to 'play' a woman they just met.. or they might have different, very logic reason to do so... they have the money to do it.. and they are, the nicest, most 'gentlemen', caring guys...

 

Most people are STUCK on the 'idea' they have of a street walkers.. most prostitutes are NOT on the streets.. and if you'd meet them.. you'd have absolutely NO idea ... geeezzz

[Trialbyfire]

I totally agree with this. I do not have any statistics at all to back this up, but my intuition tells me that 90 percent or at least a VERY HIGH percentage of men in the U.S have all been with hookers but they would NEVER admit it to a woman ever. Of course they talk to themselves among it. Men have a secret society where they will always back each other up, if a guy knows another guy is about to get caught cheating he will offer the guy an alibi and help him out. Men always protect each other and they will deny until the end of time.

 

Women just don't know the truth and are too naive. They think "MY man would NEVER do such a thing". I think they are just in denial. Pretty much all men do it.

cutegirl, you work in an environment of pornography. It's not surprising that your attitude is as such. Once again, it's like saying that it snows where I live, therefore, it must snow throughout the rest of the world.

[Cherry Blossom 35]

Pragmatically speaking, if it's only about getting off, why shell out money for something you can do for yourself?

 

There's a strong psychological element for men who use or have used hookers. Sure, there's the element of the forbidden but there's far more associated to it. I strongly agree that men who use hookers, don't much like or respect women.

 

I totally agree, TBF.

 

And by the way, if a guys is good looking and charming, he usually has no problem scoring with the ladies and does not need to pay for sex. I'm willing to bet that a lot of men who use hookers don't do that well with women in real life, therefore they need to have this sort of arrangement. Of course, there are the guys who can get the ladies, but enjoy the power they feel when using hookers.

[Lizzie60]

I totally agree with this. I do not have any statistics at all to back this up, but my intuition tells me that 90 percent or at least a VERY HIGH percentage of men in the U.S have all been with hookers but they would NEVER admit it to a woman ever. Of course they talk to themselves among it. Men have a secret society where they will always back each other up, if a guy knows another guy is about to get caught cheating he will offer the guy an alibi and help him out. Men always protect each other and they will deny until the end of time.

 

Women just don't know the truth and are too naive. They think "MY man would NEVER do such a thing". I think they are just in denial. Pretty much all men do it.

 

MOST men do NOT even talk about it to their best buddies.. trust me on that one..

 

And cutegirl.. no stats will ever be exact on prostitution.. as most men will never admit it..

 

I agree with your last paragraph.. although I don't think ALL men do it.. not even MOST men.. but a lot of men do it.. and I mean a LOT.

[Lizzie60]

I totally agree, TBF.

 

And by the way, if a guys is good looking and charming, he usually has no problem scoring with the ladies and does not need to pay for sex. I'm willing to bet that a lot of men who use hookers don't do that well with women in real life, therefore they need to have this sort of arrangement. Of course, there are the guys who can get the ladies, but enjoy the power they feel when using hookers.

 

 

This is soooo far from the truth.. you have noooo idea.. and it's not about control either in general..

[rod_in_gtown]

 

So what is it exactly are the hookers doing that is so "thrilling" and so "forbidden" that normal women don't? Normal women do things like swallow, take facials, anal, deepthroat, are enthusiastic in bed (can moan, talk dirty) etc... Normal women can indulge in fetishes too like whip you if you like it, or torture you, or suck on your toes.... What is it that these hookers do that is so special that regular women don't compare?

 

Well I've not been with hookers but I've been tempted. And for me is exactly the fact that most civilians have some sort of aversion to sexperimentation. All the examples you list above are the exception to the girls I've been with. If I meet a civilian who likes to do these things and is adventurous about sexuality and has a high libido, I'll be in heaven.

[Trialbyfire]

OMG... some people on here have noooo idea what they're talking about..

 

Some pervert/jerks.. have no respect for women.. I agree ... but in general, men that use the service of a prostitute (I'm not talking about streets drug addicts prostitutes) have tremendous respect for women in general.. that's probably why they use their service.. they just don't want to 'play' a woman they just met.. or they might have different, very logic reason to do so... they have the money to do it.. and they are, the nicest, most 'gentlemen', caring guys...

 

Most people are STUCK on the 'idea' they have of a street walkers.. most prostitutes are NOT on the streets.. and if you'd meet them.. you'd have absolutely NO idea ... geeezzz

Anecdoetal Lizzie...

 

To use your own logic, you don't really know the guys you do. You have no idea how they interact with their women at home. No one can know anyone, when their relationship is purely sexual. For that matter, unless you can read someone's mind, you cannot know anyone. You can only go by the fantasy they create for you.

[Trialbyfire]

I totally agree, TBF.

 

And by the way, if a guys is good looking and charming, he usually has no problem scoring with the ladies and does not need to pay for sex. I'm willing to bet that a lot of men who use hookers don't do that well with women in real life, therefore they need to have this sort of arrangement. Of course, there are the guys who can get the ladies, but enjoy the power they feel when using hookers.

I agree. There are also men who have Oedipus complexes.

[cutegirl]

cutegirl, you work in an environment of pornography. It's not surprising that your attitude is as such. Once again, it's like saying that it snows where I live, therefore, it must snow throughout the rest of the world.

 

I have no idea what you are talking about. I read in BOOKS written by men, it was called "What Men Don't Want Women To Know: The Secrets, The Lies, The Unspoken Truth", where MEN describe for in their own words about how they all back each other up and why men LOVE prostitutes and why men will deny in the end. I got this information from men themselves!

 

I work in the advertising business. I advertise for all sorts of programs including adult programs but it's 50/50 these days. Sitting behind the pc all day has nothing to do with pornography, you need to get your facts straight. I am a WEBMASTER and I send traffic to programs, you are completely stretching it and being overdramatical.

[Cherry Blossom 35]

This is soooo far from the truth.. you have noooo idea.. and it's not about control either in general..

 

 

Yeah, well there is Charlie Sheen...I'm sure he could pick up the ladies.

 

So why would a guy who could meet beautiful women and have free. casual sex pay for it? Why would Charlie Sheen, a Hollywood star, pay for all those hookers from Heidi Fleiss?

 

What's the motivation?

[cutegirl]

Yeah, well there is Charlie Sheen...I'm sure he could pick up the ladies.

 

So why would a guy who could meet beautiful women and have free. casual sex pay for it? Why would Charlie Sheen, a Hollywood star, pay for all those hookers from Heidi Fleiss?

 

What's the motivation?

 

There is a saying that goes "the man is not paying for the sex, he is paying for her to leave afterwards!"

 

That's one reason why a lot of guys do it too, they don't want to have to deal with the woman afterwards or have to deal with her trying to sleep over. They are done with her and want her on her way.

[Trialbyfire]

I have no idea what you are talking about. I read in BOOKS written by men, it was called "What Men Don't Want Women To Know: The Secrets, The Lies, The Unspoken Truth", where MEN describe for in their own words about how they all back each other up and why men LOVE prostitutes and why men will deny in the end. I got this information from men themselves!

 

I work in the advertising business. I advertise for all sorts of programs including adult programs but it's 50/50 these days. Sitting behind the pc all day has nothing to do with pornography, you need to get your facts straight. I am a WEBMASTER and I send traffic to programs, you are completely stretching it and being overdramatical.

cutegirl, you'll find men of all ilk. You'll also find men who make shyte up for whatever their reasons.

 

Your attitude towards men is 100% negative so you're going to believe they're capable of every dastardly act. Sure, there are men who will. But as well, there are men who won't, for pragmatic, discerning or hygienic reasons.

[movingonandon]

 

Sorry, I can't help but think that men who go to prostitutes are desperate and skanky.

 

Just like many men can't help but think that women who f*ck them the same night they meet them are skanky ho's.

 

I'll ignore the first part (for no reason other than the fact that this is just another predictable rationalization of said sexual opression and quilt).

 

As for the second part, that's yet another overgeneralization (bordering ona myth) and additional evidence that many girls simply can't let go of the opressing idea that sex can't be taken and enjoyed in its own right, but always needs to be a part of a larger 'game'. Let me ask you this: after so many years of emancipation and equality in the workplace, are there no other sources for women to feel empowered? Isn't it about time to come to terms with the idea that sex gives no "special powers"? It's just sex. It's much better when it's with someone you love, but it's not that bad even when you do it for the sake of it. Hence, no need to transfer your guilt on men. From guys point of view, a woman who goes to bed on the first night may or may not be a skank. It depends on the context of the encounter (and well... on the fact if she's actually a skank). But no sane guy will consider a woman a skank JUST BECAUSE she felt like having sex that night and did it. How's that for a change?

[cutegirl]

This is a brief description of the book I mentioned that deals with men cheating and hookers... It was written by a man and some if it also dealt with prostitution. Remember, this book was written by a MAN; firsthand information!

 

Amazon.com Review

Only 3.6 percent of men will remain faithful to their women. At least according to the controversial "Smith and Doe," two guys who wish to remain anonymous except for revealing that they work in the motion-picture industry and live in Southern California. A sampling of their "unspoken truths" aimed at turning women into "Smith and Doe-educated women":

 

--"If a man is given the opportunity to engage in sexual relations with an attractive female, with no fear of getting caught and little risk of transmitted diseases, he will do so. Always. Without fail. There are no exceptions."

 

--"Man spends his life in one of two basic states: loaded or unloaded."

--"A prostitute is the perfect one-nighter."

 

--"Men are attracted to beautiful young women.... If you saw your man at the office when you are not present, you would become physically ill."

 

 

From Publishers Weekly

The authors, who, the publisher reveals, work in the motion-picture industry, have assumed pseudonyms for this work, and readers will quickly understand why. This is their chief message: "The only reason your man is with you is because at this moment... he... believes... he simply can't do any better." Their basic conviction, quoting from Wilhelm Reich, is that the male of the species is a sexual animal who seeks "complete and repeated genital gratification." They see him as a gun, either loaded or unloaded according to whether he is hoping to have an orgasm or has just had one; women, they maintain, can trust a man in the latter state, but otherwise they cannot. The authors point out that the real danger zones for a woman are her husband's office, his "business trips" and bachelor parties, about which he can be expected to deny every occurrence if questioned. After presenting a test for fidelity, Smith and Doe offer a few words of advice for women on winning the battle of the sexes. Females who find the content equally frivolous might recall that many a true word is spoken in jest. Yet the generalizations are so sweeping and exaggerated here as to lead many readers to believe that the authors are talking only about themselves.

Copyright 1998 Reed Business Information, Inc.

[Humbleman]

Yeah, well there is Charlie Sheen...I'm sure he could pick up the ladies.

 

So why would a guy who could meet beautiful women and have free. casual sex pay for it? Why would Charlie Sheen, a Hollywood star, pay for all those hookers from Heidi Fleiss?

 

What's the motivation?

 

 

Although I have never been with an escort or prostitute, I can see why men prefer it. Less hassle, one off payment, enjoyment, excitement, meeting new women. There are many perks, but not enough for me to risk my own health.

[Trialbyfire]

Yeah, well there is Charlie Sheen...I'm sure he could pick up the ladies.

 

So why would a guy who could meet beautiful women and have free. casual sex pay for it? Why would Charlie Sheen, a Hollywood star, pay for all those hookers from Heidi Fleiss?

 

What's the motivation?

Charlie Sheen is a sex addict. You'll find a percentage of the male population who are, like the guys you read about on LS, who are addicted to porn.