Question for MEN only about hookers, really better than "civilian" women?

[Lizzie60]

THis is a myth. It is all about getting laid with no hassles. Short of a small number of actual perverts, nobody goes to hookers to degrade them. People of all walks of life pay for sex. Our society has trouble digesting the idea that there is nothing particularly degrading about sex for money between two consenting adults. If anything makes it risky and dangerous, it's the illegality of it, which only increases the likelihood of unreported violence against women, without doing anything to curb it.

 

 

I agree here.. it's a very small portion of men that go to prostitutes to degrade and humiliate them...

 

Some of my MMs make sure I am satisfied.. even before they are.. not all men are perverts and violent..

[movingonandon]

Cutegirl, to address your original post,

 

It seems like everyone is taking this thing a notch farther than I was thinking. They're saying men go to prostitutes because they want to try new sexual positions and fetishes. That's implying that they get sex without a problem...they're just bored of it.

 

I would think guys go to prostitutes to either get away from their wives (married guys only) or because they can't get laid. I know I've certainly thought about getting an escort just to be sexually satisfied for a while getting, sex off my mind for the next few months.

 

 

True dat. I will ony add that the reasons ger bored with sex in relationships has to do chiefly with more general relationship pathology, to which most often both sides contribute eqially: general guilt about sex (more common in women), or lack of balls to discuss what exactly and how they want it (more common about men). Absent these things, there is no reason to ever get bored with sex with the same person.

[movingonandon]

Yeah, that's the really disappointing truth. It's what makes women think they have power over all men. It's what makes them think men are disposable and worthless, since they can pretty much get any one if they wanted to.

 

so true - especially in North America. I've seen marriages in which it is glaringly obvious that this is the dynamic.

Guys, get your balls back! They (and the girls that have them) are not the bosses of us . Only then there will be an equal exchange of sex and discounts! I'm seriously perfectly willing to go without sex till the rest of my life rather than get it from a woman with that attitude. Fortunately, I can recognise this type of girl from a mile away

[ipetree]

This is the point..

 

Let's say a woman is on vacation, or away for work, and wants to get laid. She can easily use a site like craigslist, any dating site, walk into any night club, and have sex.

 

A man can be extremely attractive, and still not have it nearly as easy. So he pays a woman. He can go to a club, meet a woman, talk to her all night, then she says "Well i have to get up early in the am, here is my number". An attractive man can go out 20 times and not get laid. Paying a woman also allows HIM to choose, instead of being chosen by the woman whom will go home with him.

 

Are women mad because this equals the playing field a bit? Only women should be able to have sex when they want? Men should just go without sex until you feel they earned it?

[ipetree]

One more example, and you can try this yourself..

 

Go to a site like Craigslist, and go to casual encounters. Post one ad as a woman seeing sex. I did this before just out of curiosity, and received over 200 emails within 2 hours.. I had to take the ad down.

 

Doctors, lawyers, athletes, married men, single men, tall men, young men, old men,short men,rich men, were ready to meet for sex at the drop of a hat.

 

Now post an ad for an attractive man seeking sex. I did. I received 4 replies. 3 from gay men posing as women asking for nude photos, and one woman who emailed that was about 400lbs.

 

That is the difference.

[cutegirl]

 

 

Notice that they compare this to a hobby....as if it can be compared to model trains. (BTW, and SP is a code name for an escort. This is an acronym for Service Provider.) Every quote is a different guy. And while they don't all say it...some imply it, almost all are married. I have read threads where they discuss how they can keep the "hobby" from their wives or girlfriends. I wished that I had kept some of those posts, too. Every once in awhile, a wife would catch the husband, and it would make for a good story. The refrain was always..."Lie,lie,lie." And if you were caught with your d*ck in her, then lie and say it wasn't yours. Seriously. And escorts would occasionally tell how they received angry calls from wives.

 

 

I think I read that board... I used to read at least 4-5 of those boards... I did see topics like that all the time such as "How do you hide this from your wife" etc where the guys would give in their input... I spent hours and hours reading those boards, it's very interesting... I know all the acronyms by heart now... such as GFE, LE, SW etc.... lol

[cutegirl]

One more example, and you can try this yourself..

 

Go to a site like Craigslist, and go to casual encounters. Post one ad as a woman seeing sex. I did this before just out of curiosity, and received over 200 emails within 2 hours.. I had to take the ad down.

 

I already tried that once out of boredom... it wasn't even in the casual encounters but normal dating forum and i got like 150 responses. I know all about the casual encounters, I read it all the time, sometimes for kicks and to see if i can recognize someone from there... One time i did place an ad in casual encounters, it was up for 2minutes and i was already getting tons of messages, i deleted it after 5 min...

 

I also read the erotic services just for the hell of it... Very entertaining...

[cutegirl]

ive known maybe 2 or 3 that have been with a hooker... One was a very young guy when he did it, the other two were kinda crazy and out there, not many morals to speak of. The others find it dirty and just plain gross, also they've told me its an insult to themselves. they are bassically saying they cant get it unless they pay for it....

 

 

I don't think these men are always telling the truth. Most guys who do see hookers lie and are in deny about it. It's the nicest guys, the most successful ones, the ones that you think would never do it who probably indulge the most.

 

I would NEVER believe a guy just because he claimed it was disgusting and gross. If anything it would make me more suspicious. Never believe anything a guy says. Their #1 motto is "Deny, deny, deny!". Guys want to keep it on the downlow, they aren't going to admit everything their favorite hobby is whoring/mongering.

[zhsoj]

Paid sex probably has its place. If it weren't for the STD issue I probably would have already partaken. For the ugly bastards like myself it seems the simplest and most practical option.

 

One day I'll get the nerve up and take a vacation to Nevada and come back a man...

[ipetree]

And why putting the call girls down so much? They exhibit more honesty, than your run of the mill gold digger. They have sex for a price, and that's it. It is simple, and honest.

 

Compare this to dating...Woman might have sex with you if she does not want a relationship with you. She will withhold sex from you if she thinks you are "a keeper" so she does not appear to be easy.

 

Or, attractive ones might withhold sex from everyone except "high status career" men. Their goal here is much more manipulative than a simple sex for money transaction. It is a sex for all of your money transaction down the road. Or sex for a better life.

 

And I agree, men in this culture are not exactly eager to tell other women they have sex with hookers. They even lie to their guy friends.

[fral945]

I would NEVER believe a guy just because he claimed it was disgusting and gross. If anything it would make me more suspicious. Never believe anything a guy says. Their #1 motto is "Deny, deny, deny!". Guys want to keep it on the downlow, they aren't going to admit everything their favorite hobby is whoring/mongering.

 

cutegirl,

 

What exactly is the issue here for you? Do you just want to voice your opinion on you ex concerning men and hookers, or are you looking for some answer or reassurance that all men are not like you ex?

 

It is a fact that men will visit prostitutes. Until women become like men sexually in thoughts and actions, that will never stop.

[ipetree]

I also wonder why this bothers women? Are they standing in line to have sex with these men when they want it, and the men are choosing to pay? Obviously not.

 

Is it acceptable for men to come up to you on the street and ask "Hi, would you like to have sex?"

 

Is it better if men ask you out, feign interest, lie and act, just to have sex?

 

Is it better if a man takes a woman home for a one night stand?

 

Or should men just never have sex unless it is in a loving, committed relationship in which it can be used as a leverage device for power and control?

[MN randomguy]

I thnk the OP needs to find a different dating pool. Do you really think there's that many men who see prostitutes?

 

Maybe you're too open sexually, and are getting all of the men who will do whatever it takes to satisfy every sexual fantasy they have.

[2sure]

I didnt read every single thread but...

 

Sometimes a guy will go to a call girl or escort because he wants something a little more kinky than he has the nerve to ask a girlfriend for. Or he has asked, but not received.

 

And it isnt just guys...a lot of couples have used call girls for threesomes. I have heard mixed reviews on that.

[SushiX]

I don't think these men are always telling the truth. Most guys who do see hookers lie and are in deny about it. It's the nicest guys, the most successful ones, the ones that you think would never do it who probably indulge the most.

 

I would NEVER believe a guy just because he claimed it was disgusting and gross. If anything it would make me more suspicious. Never believe anything a guy says. Their #1 motto is "Deny, deny, deny!". Guys want to keep it on the downlow, they aren't going to admit everything their favorite hobby is whoring/mongering.

 

Guys that say they see hookers are lying about it while the nicest guys indulge the most. It's like a lose-lose situation for the guy here. You sound bitter cutegirl. Bad breakup with your ex? Not all men are whoring/mongering types you know. But I guess no guy can convince you because you never believe what a guy says anyways.

[movingonandon]

I don't think these men are always telling the truth. Most guys who do see hookers lie and are in deny about it. It's the nicest guys, the most successful ones, the ones that you think would never do it who probably indulge the most.

 

I would NEVER believe a guy just because he claimed it was disgusting and gross. If anything it would make me more suspicious. Never believe anything a guy says. Their #1 motto is "Deny, deny, deny!". Guys want to keep it on the downlow, they aren't going to admit everything their favorite hobby is whoring/mongering.

 

 

This is funny. It is funny, because the only reason I will lie about having been with a hooker is that I know that in 99% of the cases i will get the exact same self-righteous judgemental reaction! So why endure it, given that I don't care about it anyway?

Get over it! As I said earlier - I would never go to see working girls while I'm in a relationship, but any girlie that would judge me because i did when i wasn't in a relationship can eat it ang go find herself a date that gets off only when he's told he can, and only in the quilt-ridden anglo-saxon ways

[Woggle]

And why putting the call girls down so much? They exhibit more honesty, than your run of the mill gold digger. They have sex for a price, and that's it. It is simple, and honest.

 

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I very much agree. Prostitutes are the most honest women on earth.

[Meet 4 Coffee]

Men who pick up prostitutes are trash, as is the prostitute. Decent men have never picked up a prostitute. And that's all she wrote.

[movingonandon]

Men who pick up prostitutes are trash, as is the prostitute. Decent men have never picked up a prostitute. And that's all she wrote.

 

I was waiting for this post to happen, took surprisingly long .

But here's anmother interpretation: people who feel compelled to judge the sexual choices of others (and harshly so) suffer unbearable quilt from the mere fact of having genitals, and due to christian fundamentalist upbringing or other equally traumatic factors, see no other way to alleviate this quilt except by seeking ways to impose it on others. The others, on the other hand, could not care less. Go snuggle with your bible, and careful with the masturbation, or else you'll go blind!

[SushiX]

Men who pick up prostitutes are trash, as is the prostitute. Decent men have never picked up a prostitute. And that's all she wrote.

 

Well geez I guess most men are trash then since most of us have had prostitute at least once in our lives. Sorry but you have not lived a long and fullfilling life if you havent had a prostitute. This is like a rite of passage for some men to reach adulthood. It changes your whole perception about women, infidelity and your place among them.

 

FACT: Not many men regret having a prostitute but they do regret not having one.

[OpenBook]

Sorry but you have not lived a long and fullfilling life if you havent had a prostitute. This is like a rite of passage for some men to reach adulthood. It changes your whole perception about women, infidelity and your place among them.

 

I don't understand. Can you elaborate on this? Do you have a lower regard for women after having sex with a prostitute?

 

FACT: Not many men regret having a prostitute but they do regret not having one.

 

You seem comfortable speaking for ALL men on this...?

[Humbleman]

You seem comfortable speaking for ALL men on this...?

 

It's a change from women who usually feel comfortable speaking for ALL men.

 

Oh and the thought of sleeping with a prostitute makes me want to vomit.

[OpenBook]

It's a change from women who usually feel comfortable speaking for ALL men.

 

Point taken.

[SushiX]

I don't understand. Can you elaborate on this? Do you have a lower regard for women after having sex with a prostitute?

 

You seem comfortable speaking for ALL men on this...?

 

No, I don't have a lower regard for women after having sex with a prostitute. Just a different perception about them. Let's just say I'm not as shy as before I had a prostitute and that I don't have to be choosen. I can choose as well.

 

And yes I do feel comfortable speaking for most men on this because most men I know feel this way. Maybe the men I've met are trash, but most of them will not tell you they had a prostitute! They tell other men, but never tell a women! Its a secret most men keep from women til marriage. This is another fact I can say about most men. Because honestly, how would most women feel if she knew her man had prostitute before?

[SushiX]

 

Oh and the thought of sleeping with a prostitute makes me want to vomit.

 

Let me guess.. you never had a prostitute right? or had a bad experience with one? You should try those high end escort services, not the random street walkers. There's a huge difference in quality among those women.