Author Jersey Shortie Posted November 18, 2008 Author Posted November 18, 2008 Mahatma, that explains the looking at texts or whatever on dates. Hopefully those girls will grow out of that as you get older. I don't do that.
kashmir Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Girls Who: -try to act dumb to be cute. -play games (like waiting 30 minutes to respond back to my text when I KNOW you always keep your phone on you and look immediately at your phone and text back) -immediately look at their phone when they get a text in the middle of a date and engage is a conversation. (I have yet to get a girlfriend who I do not have to confront this issue with) -are bitter -No desire to do something with their life -kids (I am 18) I agree with the phone stuff. It annoys the hell out of me when people feel they need to text constantly. I'm curious though, how can a girl our age be bitter?
Author Jersey Shortie Posted November 18, 2008 Author Posted November 18, 2008 I'm curious though, how can a girl our age be bitter? Girls grow up faster these days.
Woggle Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 More. Women who have consistently rejected men who treated her well Women who hang around with a bunch of manhaters who love to ruin each other's love life Women who hang around with a bunch of cheaters who will try and push her to cheat.
alphamale Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Women who have consistently rejected men who treated her well there are a large # of women in that category
Woggle Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 there are a large # of women in that category Which is why it is so hard to find a good woman.
PrincessPeach Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Women who have consistently rejected men who treated her well I'd say that's very near to 100% of women. And certainly all desirable women. That's basically saying "I don't like girls unless they go for every single 'nice guy' that comes around." The 'nice guys' treat women well, but they lack a considerable amount of masculinity. It's not interesting to have some guy always trying to do what he thinks I want him to do. It's annoying. He should be his own person. Yes, a guy can treat a women well and still be his own person and be masculine. But a lot of the guys who treat women well can hardly be considered MEN to begin with.
Woggle Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I'd say that's very near to 100% of women. And certainly all desirable women. That's basically saying "I don't like girls unless they go for every single 'nice guy' that comes around." The 'nice guys' treat women well, but they lack a considerable amount of masculinity. It's not interesting to have some guy always trying to do what he thinks I want him to do. It's annoying. He should be his own person. Yes, a guy can treat a women well and still be his own person and be masculine. But a lot of the guys who treat women well can hardly be considered MEN to begin with. No offense to you but this is the prime example of who to avoid. Women want to be able to buck as many gender roles as they want still expect a man to confine himself within a narrow definition of what masculine is. If a woman wants a traditional man they should be a traditional woman but I don't see too many that are willing to live up to their end of the bargain.
prettybaby Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Not wearing heels is a deal breaker? lol That's weird.
PrincessPeach Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 No offense to you but this is the prime example of who to avoid. Women want to be able to buck as many gender roles as they want still expect a man to confine himself within a narrow definition of what masculine is. If a woman wants a traditional man they should be a traditional woman but I don't see too many that are willing to live up to their end of the bargain. I agree with all that (aside from the little part about me being the example to avoid ) I consider myself to be a very feminine woman, and most guys and girls I know would agree. I like my womanly gender roles. Some of the feminist movement was a good idea, but I think it tries to do too much, wanting men to be less masculine and women to be less feminine We are different genders, we shouldn't try to be so similar. We should embrace our gender, not hide from it.
Woggle Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 The problem with feminism is that it turned into a manhating movement but I feel that people should be able to be themselves no matter what gender. As long as a man has a backbone he can be considered a man.
Geishawhelk Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Feminism was hyjacked by the dungarees/crewcut/army-booted butch brigade.....! True feminism simply values and promotes the right of women to act on equal footing to men, without any cost to femininity OR maculinity. Have you noticed, though? There's no word for the equivalent in men - "Maculism". But we do have 'Chauvinism' which is perjorative and accusatory. If only people would be relaxed enough to let the other, be..... If you look at all the deal-breakers - for both men and women - are we really all that different after all? Oh, Woggle.....If a man has to have 'backbone' to be a man....... what does a woman have to have? Balls? That was tongue-in-cheek, by the way.
Woggle Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Some of the worst misandrists dress like supermodels so I wouldn't say that all radical feminists have crewcuts.
RecordProducer Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Yes, a guy can treat a women well and still be his own person and be masculine. But a lot of the guys who treat women well can hardly be considered MEN to begin with.So are you saying that you want a nice guy, but not a shmuck or that you'd rather go for the "bad guy" than for the nice guy? Ya know, nice means nice. Not a shmuck. I don't know if anyone ever told you that. And a bad guy will make you feel bad - and feeling bad is not good. The problem with feminism is that it turned into a manhating movement but I feel that people should be able to be themselves no matter what gender. As long as a man has a backbone he can be considered a man.Wog, do you realize that for three and a half years, this is ALL you ever talk about?
Geishawhelk Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Some of the worst misandrists dress like supermodels so I wouldn't say that all radical feminists have crewcuts. No, I was just being archly stereotypical. I would have thought you'd have recognised that.....
PrincessPeach Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 So are you saying that you want a nice guy, but not a shmuck or that you'd rather go for the "bad guy" than for the nice guy? Ya know, nice means nice. Not a shmuck. I don't know if anyone ever told you that. And a bad guy will make you feel bad - and feeling bad is not good. Pff... that's not what im saying I'm saying 'nice guy' and I put it in quotes to refer to the stereotypical 'nice guy.' The stereotypical 'nice guy' is the one that just tries to be nice to the girls and generally only thinks for what the girl wants rather than themselves. It sounds great, but that's not an attractive quality. I don't think it'd be an attractive quality the other way around either with a 'nice girl' for you guys. You might think it's cool at first, but it'd get old quickly. I'm saying there are different types of guys who are nice, and them just being nice does not make them a desirable man. So if Woggle is saying that it is a dealbreaker for him if the girl has "consistently rejected men who treated her well" then he is saying that he wants a girl who could be with someone she isn't necessarily attracted to. Which is basically saying that he likes it if a girl isn't true to herself or is willing to lie to him that she wants to be in the relationship. So he wants a girl that is so easy that anyone who can be nice to her, regardless of what else they offer, is someone she is unlikely to ever turn down. No one gets to choose who they like or are attracted to. It just happens. So to have something like that be part of your disqualifications is just plain dumb in my opinion. His disqualification is such that niceness is the ONLY thing he thinks a girl should be interested in.
Author Jersey Shortie Posted November 19, 2008 Author Posted November 19, 2008 I agree with Princess Peach. I hate to tell you guys but alot of "nice girls" get passed over too. Men aren't the only ones that suffer rejection. As for feminism, it's got it's good point and bad points. Like all things do. The sad truth is it isn't just women that try to force men to be more like them, there is alot in this world where women are also forced to be more like men as well. It would be great if we could appreciate and respect each gender without feeling the need to belittle them. I too often see it on both sides though, the opposite.
Humbleman Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 1. Women who plaster themselves in make up. It's not attractive, if you are not the most beautiful looking woman on the planet then just accept it as make up won't make any difference. 2. Women who expect too much, if a woman expects a list of things from me, then she'll never hear another word from me again. 3. Women who cannot give me what I need, I need attention, lots of sex and regular compliments. If a woman can't do this, then I'll find one that can. 4. I don't like women who are more masculine than me and who earn more money than me. I walked out half way through a date with a woman who earned $100K per year. 5. I don't like women who does not allow me space and time on my own and who insists talking about my personal problems is a problem halved. I have a therapist for discussion.
movingonandon Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 A lot of the ones above, but the biggest dealbreaker is the inflated-ego. If a girl thinks that she's the **** and is superior to men just because she lacks a Y chromosome, then I want nothing to do with her. That really sums it up for me and is the true origin of many of the other dealbreakers mentioned here. Some women have the crazy idea that just because they have decent bodies, they're entitled to do nothing and expect everything. Doesn't work that way, except maybe in the early 20s, and except with the stupid bitches in "Sex and the city" Other than that, there is very little that is a true dealbreaker. Women's and men's dealbreaker posts are intermixed with things that are merely annoying vs true deal breakers. Kids are not necessarily a dealbreaker per se, it's just so hard to raise kids on your own, that unfortunately desperation shows one way or another in many single moms. Another for me, fortunatly a rare one, is too much religiousness. Nothing wrong with being spiritual, and even with actually believing in Jesus & crap, but telling me to do or not to do something because that's what the bible says - shudder, i'm pulling out my gun in self-defense!
movingonandon Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 No offense to you but this is the prime example of who to avoid. Women want to be able to buck as many gender roles as they want still expect a man to confine himself within a narrow definition of what masculine is. If a woman wants a traditional man they should be a traditional woman but I don't see too many that are willing to live up to their end of the bargain. Ha, good point. Another annoying permutation of the same problem is girls getting upset because of the very same qualities that attracted them to you in the very first place - first you're assertive and confident and great, and then all of a sudden you're not sensitive enough . Gender roles are underrated, and avoiding them at all costs, "just because" is the source of many problems. It's great that they can be bent so people can pursue their true aspirations, but bending them just because you can, and for no other reason, is a source of many relationship problems. Moreover, many men do not, in fact, expect a 50s type of girl and appreciate if a woman has a career and goals. The roles we're talking about have to do more with the dynamics within the relationship.
tanbark813 Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 I like my womanly gender roles. Some of the feminist movement was a good idea, but I think it tries to do too much, wanting men to be less masculine and women to be less feminine We are different genders, we shouldn't try to be so similar. We should embrace our gender, not hide from it. It's refreshing to hear a woman say this. That's one thing I love about my gf is she's very feminine and isn't ashamed that she likes some traditional gender roles. And before the knee-jerk misandrists on the board chime in: No, I don't expect her to stay barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen were we to get married. But it's nice that she doesn't try to be a man. Men want to date women, not androgynous beings with tits. Have you noticed, though? There's no word for the equivalent in men - "Maculism". But we do have 'Chauvinism' which is perjorative and accusatory. If only people would be relaxed enough to let the other, be..... Exactly! Women complain that there are no real men left, and to an extent they're right, but if you listen to the media it's almost a crime these days to be a man.
Dexter Morgan Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 -cheating -keeping male friends that she has been intimate with -thinking that she should be more important than my children -going clubbing all the time -coming home past 2 or 3 am. Hell, even 1 am if it becomes a habit. -flagrant flirting -dirty dancing with another guy (I don't mind plain old dancing and conversation) -smoking -chatting with other guys on the internet -a myspace or facebook junkie Oh, I'll add: -a woman that is full of herself and thinks she is all that, conceited
Dexter Morgan Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 I feel like this turned more into a "lets bash woman thread". Not at all. Listing undesirable traits isn't bashing. Same can be said for men. Just because I list these traits means I think all women exhibit them.
carhill Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Freudian slip? Just because I list these traits means I think all women exhibit them.
carhill Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Sometimes playing with those double negatives bites one in the @ss. Now, that's a deal-breaker
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