joel Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 any gusy here ever get looked down on-ur job(ur a hairstylist, welder, comp tech--they are a big shot certifed accountant, lawyer, business exec), ur car(older model civic and dx model-they have a g35), ur status(they own a big mansion, u live in apartment or at home). tell me ur story , how ddid they look down on u and what did they say-=- ppl are into the staus, educaiton.....etc cars.......what did u say back to em . lol any comeback. i had a project manager-friend of friend who asked me ah your still doing that kind of job ah stilll still . does anyone here ever get looked down upon on their job. i did and it feels like crap Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 "Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosveldt. Link to post Share on other sites
Author joel Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 i have no car or a civc dx and tey have a g35 and they say wow that car is old, does it really still run . omg its all plastic inside omg you don;t have a car, how your 24 and u have no car i can;t belive it how can a guy be 24 and no car lol -i was a studnet u do compter tech you have a certificate from college adn they guy is a accountant with a degree and hes like oh you never went to univeristy and u hvae no degree. oh oh. Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Have you ever been put down for the way you write? Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I agree with Geishawhelk ! I think that deep down in your heart you don't have correct self-esteem to begin with. If you are ok with yourself, with who you are, you don't care too much how others to look at you, in fact, how others to look at you is their problems. like racist, they have worldview problem in themselves. if you depends your own value on how others to view at you, you put too much burden on yourself maybe you define yourself with external superficial things, such as cars, degrees, money....? all these are fragile and delusional. we all have to look into inside of us, that is who we really are if I met these people, maybe I will just laugh a bit, and think 'they are just not at my level' Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 maybe you define yourself with external superficial things, such as cars, degrees, money....? all these are fragile and delusional. we all have to look into inside of us, that is who we really are I would not classify higher education as "external and superficial." It takes a lot of hard work and commitment. Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 (edited) I would not classify higher education as "external and superficial." It takes a lot of hard work and commitment. well, higher education DOES help some, but there are times 'higher education' can be fragile. if self-esteem born from education, it is still flaky. I've seen lots of professors who has high education and don't know how to respect others, they are just arrogant instead of confident. arrogant people can not be happy true confidence comes from God, comes from knowing who we are, and I feel secure in God's love Edited February 21, 2008 by Lovelybird Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 arrogant people can not be happy true confidence comes from God, comes from knowing who we are, and I feel secure in God's love That is absolutely delusional and just flat out wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Lovelybird Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 That is absolutely delusional and just flat out wrong. whatever see? joel, this is the right reaction next time you meet that kind of person Link to post Share on other sites
spookie Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Joel all your posts are the same. People will find a way to make judgements no matter who you are. It only hurts when you agree with them. Do you agree with them? Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 So you think that he will obtain the confidence he maybe looking for by praying for it? What about people who are secure with themselves and have never heard of or do not believe in god? He should look into himself and find out why this stuff might bother him and then look for ways to change that. Link to post Share on other sites
Author joel Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 yes, but has this kind of thing ever happen with any of you guys. the story please and how did you respond and what did you say to them. please tell Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 does anyone here ever get looked down upon on their job. i did and it feels like crap During my single days I was a Freelance Gynecologist.. does that count ? Joel.. you should be proud of the work you do...If somebody makes a comment about your job in a derogatory manner then I would think it says more about them than about you.. Don't give them the power.. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Use my first post as your 'mantra'. Repeat it to yourself daily. Be determined to know for sure, that there is nobody on this planet greater than you. But there is nobody who is less than you either. And say to the other person exactly what Art_Critic has put forward... "You know, a comment like that says more about you than it does about me..." It's never happened to me. Or if it has, I gave so little damn about it, it obviously didn't stay in my psyche.... Go and do likewise. It's better than dwelling on the past. Look ahead, and make your future a better place. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Joel, I think you need to find a new set of friends. Why do you hang out with people who don't respect what you do for a living or that you can't afford a new car right now? I can't imagine saying mean things like that to people. Why do you hang around them? Don't try to fit in with them. Be yourself and proud of what you do. What if everyone on this earth had a college degree? Who would do all the other work that their degrees say they are too good to do? The world would crumble. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t144113/?highlight=hope+humanity Take a look at this thread. Do your best at whatever your job. Link to post Share on other sites
Author joel Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 Joel, I think you need to find a new set of friends. Why do you hang out with people who don't respect what you do for a living or that you can't afford a new car right now? I can't imagine saying mean things like that to people. Why do you hang around them? Don't try to fit in with them. Be yourself and proud of what you do. What if everyone on this earth had a college degree? Who would do all the other work that their degrees say they are too good to do? The world would crumble. ya i agree, or jsut don't talk to them anymore. the guy was like a friend of a friend. he wasn't a friend. i just me him once at a friends party. i won't be talking to him anymore Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 yes, but has this kind of thing ever happen with any of you guys. the story please and how did you respond and what did you say to them. please tell Lovelorcet was right. I can't think of a good excuse for anyone (particularly someone who has access to and can use a computer) writing as poorly as this: ya i agree, or jsut don't talk to them anymore. the guy was like a friend of a friend. he wasn't a friend. i just me him once at a friends party. i won't be talking to him anymore You've been posting on here for a while now, but the standard of writing never improves. Just as your life never seems to improve. That might sound like irrelevant and unkind criticism, but it relates to a point I want to make. You're focusing on defending yourself from other people's putdowns. That energy would be far better spent trying to improve yourself which would have two positive results. 1. You'd become happier and more confident. 2. Other people would be less likely to put you down, so you wouldn't need to spend all this time getting upset and thinking of ways to defend yourself. You could start by making an effort to write properly. Link to post Share on other sites
nostalgicrock Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 hi, erm what's a gusy please ? Link to post Share on other sites
Space Marine Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Maybe they use your material possessions as an excuse because they can't understand a single thing you're saying. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 excuse me...not everyone who uses a computer is as literate as 'we' are... aren't we passing the same judgements as the people he's come here to find help about? I know it's not always easy following a post that is not written as we would like it, but perhaps we could just broaden our horizons a little and try to be a bit kinder? Maybe the OP has a literacy problem. maybe they just had a difficult education. We Can't all be Shakespeare or Steinbeck.... Sorry. Off Topic. or maybe not..... Link to post Share on other sites
Space Marine Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I, personally, wasn't attempting to be "unkind"; if he has the same communication problems offline, I wouldn't be surprised if it's one of the reasons he is "looked down upon". Regardless, constructive criticism does not always come in the form of sunshine up the ass. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 No, you're right, I know. I just think that given the pertinence of the actual topic of discussion, it may not be the most sensitive approach...I'm merely saying that perhaps this is one occasion where we might show a degree of reticence... That was all.... Ok. I'm done.... Link to post Share on other sites
Taramere Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 No, you're right, I know. I just think that given the pertinence of the actual topic of discussion, it may not be the most sensitive approach...I'm merely saying that perhaps this is one occasion where we might show a degree of reticence... That was all.... Ok. I'm done.... I know what you're saying Geishawhelk - and of course you make a good point. The difficulty is that Joel is seeing all these people around him as being the problem, and his focus is on responding to those "problematic" people, when it would probably benefit him far more to concentrate on making improvements in his life. It's a difficult one, finding that balance between being unkindly critical and being empathic to the extent that the empathy will be received by a person as "permission to fail"....or even just as permission to avoid fulfilling their potential. You do get a lot of these threads where responses seem to be divided between harsh critics and kind rescuers..and I suspect that probably often reflects what happens in the thread-starters' real life situations. The rescuers and the persecutors start disagreeing with eachother about whose approach is the right/best one...and meantime, the thread-starter continues with the business of failing to make any kind of improvements to their life. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Yes, you're quite right... finding the balance is both difficult and critical. And I wasn't trying to hold anyone up to criticism, either by the way... It was just a general comment.... Lordy knows I have tipped the balance the wrong way many a time.... Thanks for coming back Taramere.... I hope that joel realises that in order to be able to 'spit in their eye' to begin with, he's got to make as much of himself as he possibly can.... As they say... people who dream of changing the world would be advised to begin at home.... _/l\_ Link to post Share on other sites
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