jcster Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Weight is a consequence between the amount of food that we take in and what we do to burn off that food. Metabolism has nothing to do with it.That's actually not true. The most recent science on weight suggests that each person has a natural weight that comes to them genetically. There are fluctuations to that weight due to diet and exercise, certainly, but some folks are naturally heavy and some are naturally skinny. A larger person has to have a much larger metabolism to just maintain their larger bodies. Again, not true. Metabolism is a lot more complex than that. Many thin people have a high metabolism. Many people who've dieted in the past have remarkably low metabolisms. I think it's great that you like skinny people, and your descriptions were lovely, but you might want to read up on the most recent science - you'd be surprised at what they are discovering.
Tyra Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 I truly agree with Trialbyfire.I am a slim woman and very healthy. I've learned to love myself to the fullest. If you are beautiful, then it out-shines all of that.You know.I don't have big breasts either.But everyone loves the way that I am shaped,and the way that I walk.Cause I walk like a supermodel. And don't get to the point in your life that you wanna get breasts inplants.Love the breasts that you have.Every man in this world don't like fat or chubby women, they like slender and petite woman too! I get compliments all the times from men. So don't discourage yourself and keep your head up. So wear your cute clothes and mini skirts and short shorts, o.k.And that comment that your mother said, I don't know who lied to her. Question;is your mother heavy?
McFadden Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 Some of what is being said about metabolism is incorrect IMO. Yes for most people, skinny people eat less and are more active and fat people eat more and are less active. Fat people do have a higher metabolism, as in they eat more every day to maintain thier weight than a skinny person eats to maintain thier weight. But, there are some extremely thin people who are inactive and can eat anything without gaining weight just because of a high metabolism. I could probably eat all day while being inactive and be thinner than I am now. I don't tend to form fat, and the only way for me to get heavier is to work out and form lean mass. And to do that, I have to be shoveling food into my face constantly. I'm assuming this is going to slow down a lot as I get older, most of the people I know with my body type are my age or younger (and are 80% guys lol). I think its possible this is also the OP's situation. So appreciate being skinny and being able to eat whatever you want now!
high_boost Posted July 19, 2007 Posted July 19, 2007 i think skinnies are super hott!!! we should go on a date
Turquoise Waters Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Alton did stay with that skinny black woman for two years, they lived together. So....it was real. It's not like he had a reason to be with her after the show if he was just into her for the cameras. This is directed in response to sofakingmad's comment about The Real World Las Vegas.
Turquoise Waters Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Ok, that's cool. I guess my whole point was is that not all white men necessarily want a skinny woman and not all black men want a woman who is curvy, or fuller.
halfarock Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Weight is a consequence between the amount of food that we take in and what we do to burn off that food. Metabolism has nothing to do with it. That's actually not true. The most recent science on weight suggests that each person has a natural weight that comes to them genetically. There are fluctuations to that weight due to diet and exercise, certainly, but some folks are naturally heavy and some are naturally skinny. larger person has to have a much larger metabolism to just maintain their larger bodies. Again, not true. Metabolism is a lot more complex than that. Many thin people have a high metabolism. Many people who've dieted in the past have remarkably low metabolisms. I think it's great that you like skinny people, and your descriptions were lovely, but you might want to re ad up on the most recent science - you'd be surprised at what they are discovering. Metabolism is the rate at which our bodies process food. A larger person has to metabolize much more food just because they have more body to feed. It just makes no sense that a skinny person would have a higher metabolism. There is no need. Perhaps their body passes more. Regardless, skinny people eat less over the course of the day than heavier people. My girlfriend will, at times, readily eat large meals. But she won’t eat anything else for a long time. I’ve never hung out with a skinny person who consistently ate alot. I’ve never hung out with a heavier person who didn’t eat alot. Regardless of ones natural weight or what ever you want to call it, a heavier person necessarily eats more than a skinny person. When I go out with a thin woman we will share a burrito. A heavier woman would want one to herself. It’s a world of difference. You should see http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/humanbody/truthaboutfood/
shadowplay Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Honestly, you are definitely seriously underweight for your height. I will leave it at that, as far as being healthy. As far as what other people think about your body.....who cares what other people think? Don't take other people's comments to heart. I am 5'7 and 130 pounds and people actually tell ME I could gain a few pounds. However I am within the healthy weight range, and I like how I look in clothes. You can decide what you want to do about gaining weight, but really, it doesn't matter what other people think, you will find a man who will love you how you are. This board tends to focus a lot on the importance of physical attributes in a relationship, and in this sense, LS is really unrealistic and unhealthy for people's self-esteem. I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Some people can be very thin and look good. It all depends on the body type and frame. For example many models look good at weights that would be considered unhealthy by some. You have to see the person to judge.
shadowplay Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Oh, btw...I'm betwen 5'5" and 5'6" and 110 lbs. The one bf I had who called me too thin turned out to be gay. Go figure.
shadowplay Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Just wanted to add that I think the attractiveness of a woman's body has more to do with the shape than the weight, within certain limitations. Like a skinny girl can have a curvy frame because she has a narrow rib cage and wider hips. It's more about the bone structure. Of course an emaciated frame isn't attractive, but thin and emaciated are different. I absolutely agree with electricsheep that there is a skinny backlash. It's the whole REAL WOMEN HAVE CURVES phenomenon. Usually the dirty looks skinny women get are from other, bigger, women.
Trialbyfire Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 To be fair, part of the backlash is from a rash of eating disorders and teens and young women popping diet pills like it's candy, due to the need to fit the societal mould of being "hawt".
jusified Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 curves is alot better then ribcage skinny. A nice peach butt is good .... mmmmmmmmmmm yummmm So please dont starve yourself girls
BlueEyedGirl Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Metabolism is the rate at which our bodies process food. A larger person has to metabolize much more food just because they have more body to feed. It just makes no sense that a skinny person would have a higher metabolism. There is no need. Perhaps their body passes more. Regardless, skinny people eat less over the course of the day than heavier people. Obviously heavy person is going to need to consume more calories to maintain their weight than skinny person, that is not the point. People can and do have different metabolic rates. If you take two women, both weighing 130 lbs and tell them to lie in bed all day, they WILL burn different amount of calories. That is what's meant by base metabolic rate. It depends on such things as genetics, lean muscle mass etc. That is why one woman will have no trouble maintaning 130lbs, while other will need to almost starve if that is not her "natural" weight. It is not all about how much food you eat. There are skeletal people who eat tons of food and do no exercise.
Turquoise Waters Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Some people can be very thin and look good. It all depends on the body type and frame. For example many models look good at weights that would be considered unhealthy by some. You have to see the person to judge. Uhhhhhhhhh....ok. You are confused, hon, I just posted that being 5'7 and 100 pounds is definitely in the underweight category. I didn't state anything about such person not looking good. You can't tell simply from looking if they are underweight or not.
Turquoise Waters Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 As far as "skinny," which is a subjective term, being more energetic, active etc., not necessarily true either. I know a size 2 woman whose lunch consists of lettuce and she is tired and lethargic all the time because she is so obsessed about not becoming a size 4. All she ever talks about is food and her, so the theory on "skinny" people having more interesting philosophies of life is retarded, also, because it becomes boring as hell to have to listen to this crap all the time about how she has to stay "model thin" for her husband since that is her job. In every email I have to read about her workouts and how she went out for lunch with her mother and was able to just eat a plain salad with no dressing, and only a bite or two of skinless chicken breast. Yawn, I'm sorry, but there is more to life than being skinny. Then she will say "I have a headache, I am so tired, I need a nap." So much for the energetic theory. Luckily I am also "skinny," (5'7, 130 pounds and size 4/6) or listening to her would seriously drain my self-esteem and give me a complex. I often have to make excuses to end the phone call early.
electric_sheep Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 But, there are some extremely thin people who are inactive and can eat anything without gaining weight just because of a high metabolism. See, from what I can tell, this is in fact one of the many myths regarding weight/weightloss. I read an article once that described how scientists had analysed the waste products of many people, to show how virtually everyone has the same ability to extract the energy out of the foods they eat. From a thermodynamics standpoint, this idea of a "high" metabolism or a "low" metabolism would be breaking the law. Some people do have high metabolisms, but it's because they are out moving their butts (doing a lot of "work", in physics parlance). They don't just "naturally" have a high metabolism. Studies of people in environments where their caloric environment is strictly controlled has also shown this to be true. The comment about their being a "natural" weight that people have and tend towards is actually thought to be true though. Researchers think this has to do with the mechanisms by which the brain is signalled that the body is "full". There is a considerable amount of evidence that this mechanism is slow to react in obese people, and faster in thinner people. Regardless, whether it is chemical/biological, or just habits/cultural/pychological, it is apparently difficult for people to maintain a weight very different from their natural tendency. I gained 10 pds working out in the gym last winter, ended up hurting myself, and managed to loose it in about 1 month. I just got tired of forcing myself to drink protein shakes and crap all the time.
Trialbyfire Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 People need to remember that when you do strenuous physical activity, up to 45 minutes later, your body is still revving, burning calories at a higher rate than being sedentary. Btw, this is a great tip for losing weight. Don't eat until an hour after you exercise.
electric_sheep Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 As far as "skinny," which is a subjective term, being more energetic, active etc., not necessarily true either. I know a size 2 woman whose lunch consists of lettuce and she is tired and lethargic all the time because she is so obsessed about not becoming a size 4. That's so true. My girlfriend has a friend that is pretty skinny, and she always seems to be dragging her ass and totally devoid of energy. Not to mention she just seems weak and fragile. She was already really nice looking over the winter, then Spring hit, and we both agree she must have lost 10 or 15 pds. by summer. It seems, unfortunately, that a lot of women get skinny by starvation. It just highlights the fact that many women tend to think about weight in terms of looks and not health. It would be difficult to know anything about this girl from just looking at her, though. I mean, she could be a super healthy, middle distance runner. She looks like she could be a miler or a 5k runner. Her body is trim and attractive, no doubt, but unfortunately she didn't get there by eating right and exercising, and you can tell if you hang out with her enough.
Carbine Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 I would like to know if there are any guys who actually find skinny women attractive. Oh, cry me a river for godsakes! How can you be THAT oblivious? Open your eyes and take a good look - what sort of women do the better looking guys have? What sorts of women are in porn mags, strip clubs? What sort of women get admiring glances from men when they walk past? That should give you the answer you're looking for. The other thing is, stop falling for the crap that other people spout. Your mother, well she's got a responsiblity to hassle you at every given opportunity. Hell, she wouldn't want to be accused of neglect, would she? . "Men don't like skinny women" what a load of BS epecially coming from someone who probably hasn't been skinny nor played the field for a good few years. Tell her to back up her claim with real evidence or otherwise mind her own business. As for people who are 'just kidding around' well who knows what their motives are. Probably jealousy, jealousy and jealousy. Otherwise they're just morons who have nothing more to offer to the conversation except for "Nice day isn't it? Hey just thought I'd remind you that you're too skinny!". Look, at the end of the day you're never really going to know exactly 'what men find attractive'. Try to impress the world's entire population of men, and you'll only make yourself unhappy and end up getting nowhere fast. Decide what YOU consider to be 'attractive', whether or not you fit that ideal and, if not, how hard you're willing to work to get there. At least that way you're working towards something for yourself, rather than trying to reach a goal that is, when you think about it, impossible to acheive. As for the people who chose to impart their vast knowledge upon the OP by concluding that she's too underweight based on her weight/measurements well you should all mind your own business! The BMI is a load of crap, it doesn't account for individual differences. If she's eating properly, feels relatively healthy and not suffering from some terminal disease then what's the problem? There's no point stuffing oneself with calories in order to try and fit some stupid measure that was outdated years ago. I'm 5'4 and at my best physical/emotional point, I weighed about 44kg. Ate heaps, exercised, looked after myself yet I still copped a lot of flak from people who thought they knew better. Thankgod I knew when to trust my own instincts rather than listening to all the amateur doctors, dieticians and weight experts out there.
love necessity Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 I would like to know if there are any guys who actually find skinny women attractive. I'm really self-conscious about being really skinny (5'7" 100lbs). I don't have an eating problem, I just have a very thin frame and a high metabolism. And to top it off, I'm not "well-endowed". I think I'm pretty enough.....people have even told me I should be a model.....but I still feel freakish! Today, my mom told me I need to eat more b/c "men don't like skinny women". WTF?!? I think that's a horrible thing to tell your daughter, especially when you know that she's already self conscious about it, you know that she eats a healthy, well balanced diet, she gets it from you in the first place, AND she's just been DUMPED. I've already worked hard at building a defense against comments/insults from other people (even friends who are "just kidding around"). So now, I'm just feeling extra crappy. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to go back to my bf....but I know I can't really deal w/ dating other men yet. He's the only one who made me feel like I was absolutely PERFECT.....not just "no you're not skinny"....but made me feel like I was exceptionally beautiful, graceful, elegant just as I am. Who knows if it was real though....probably wasn't since so much other crap that came out of his mouth wasn't even true. I know looks fade and a person should love you most for what's on the inside, etc. But I want whoever loves me to at least inintially think I'm the hottest thing on the planet....not loving me, but secretly wishing I was a little more plump. I don't want anyone to settle for me. I dunno....I know that not everyone is a beauty queen....and a person's personality and confidence often can make them more beautiful.....but I'm speaking strictly about sexual attraction. And in case you haven't picked up on it yet....I don't have much confidence lately! I don't want anyone to tell me, "sure, there are men who think skinny is hot" if it's not even really true. I also would like to know if there really and truly ARE men out there who prefer smaller busted women (who are also skinny...). My bf and one other guy that I knew who had a mad crush on me both told me they "didn't like big boobs". Right. Well turns out my bf didn't really care either way, and the other guy....who even knows. I realize I could have dated a complete ******* who asked me 5X a day to get a boob job.....but still. It left me feeling like he settled for me and I don't ever want to feel that way again. Sorry....I'm kinda pessimistic and pissy right now.....I just feel really crappy. If you want to become bigger. Start lifting and drinking protein shakes. Or you could possibly slow your metabolism down a little, by eating 3 meals instead of 6 small ones a day. I learned that if you are constantly eating smalls meals throughout the day (5-7), then it does speed up your metabolism, because your body is constantly undergoing catabolic reactions (process of breaking down food). However, if you eat 3-4 big meals a day, you will be more hungry at each eating and ingest more. Also, you won't be metabolizing food constantly. And the same goes for people who want to lose weight (oh-me, oh-me), but we have to eat more meals a day to speed up our metabolism. Just read about it. Hey, if your thin, why not tone it up by adding muscles right? I hope to be in shape one day... Or You could just stay the same. Accept yourself how you are and blow the rest of the world off. Hey, if someone can't accept you for who you are, then they weren't worth your time anyway!!! Have a great day!!
electric_sheep Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Or you could possibly slow your metabolism down a little, by eating 3 meals instead of 6 small ones a day. That's good advice. I think they call that the thermogenic effect or something. It takes calories to process calories. It seems rather absurd that we are trying to offer up advice on how to GAIN weight. Has anyone mentioned Ben & Jerry's yet?
jcster Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 It seems rather absurd that we are trying to offer up advice on how to GAIN weight. Has anyone mentioned Ben & Jerry's yet?Beer...lots of it, and don't eat dinner until midnight - it worked for me! (Boy, did it ever)
Aloros Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 I think a decent way to gain weight (one that's healthy!) is to exercise regularly. Build up some muscle mass. When I was younger, I was stick-thin, and I found that getting into swimming gave me nicer arms and legs, plus I put on some weight! The right guy will love you the way you are. I'm fairly bony, and I feel sorry for my bf when I sit in his lap (don't have much padding there!), but he tells me every day how beautiful he thinks I am, and has given me no reason to disbelieve him. Some people just have smaller bones.
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