What do you men think about women who earn 6 figures a year?

[cutegirl]

I'd guess it's parents who didn't teach her values.

 

Everybody has DIFFERENT values. Some people value money and prestige. Who is to say that YOUR values are the correct ones?

 

By saying that my parents didn't teach me values, you are assuming that the "correct" values to have are the ones that don't emphasize money and prestige.

That's only an opinion, not a fact. You don't dictate what "proper values" are. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

[Star Gazer]

I guess you don't what "marketing" and "selling" means. There's a big difference between being IN it and SELLING it through affiliate programs.

 

That's like the difference between being a drug addict and a mafia drug lord.

 

Dunno. Neither are respectable professions, IMO.

[cutegirl]

That's like the difference between being a drug addict and a mafia drug lord.

 

Dunno. Neither are respectable professions, IMO.

 

It's only considered not respectable to people who have a problem with porn, or somehow feel porn is immoral. I absolutely do not share that belief.

[Art_Critic]

I can prove it. Would you like for me to post a copy of last years return with my name and ssn blacked out? It shows the dollar figure. It might not prove anything though because I will have to block my name and ssn out and I'm unwilling to post a copy of my drivers license for obvious reasons.

 

Also, I'm on the internet probably 15 hours a day. I'm not busy at all. I actually only work a few hours ago a day, but I'm on-line pretty much most of the day and night as well. I have enough residual income building up where I make money when I sleep. I don't actually have to be "working" in order to get paid. I don't work in a 9-5 job.

 

CG.. don't let people on here bait you into trying to prove your income.. I believe you... So should everyone else unless they have proof otherwise..

 

We are all just people behind keyboards and you shouldn't feel like you have to prove anything to us..

 

I do think materialism can be a disease that can make people not want to be around someone suffering from money issues and materialism..

 

My sister-in law has money issues.. every thing is about her car or horses or what not.. In my family we are not like that.. including her husband my brother..

We all will go thru quite a bit to not be around her.. it is really disgusting to see her talk about the cost of her shoes.. or ask you the cost of yours..

 

Accept who you are.. be happy that you make a good living.. but don't throw it in peoples faces or you will be a very lonely person..

[Star Gazer]

Everybody has DIFFERENT values. Some people value money and prestige. Who is to say that YOUR values are the correct ones?

 

By saying that my parents didn't teach me values, you are assuming that the "correct" values to have are the ones that don't emphasize money and prestige.

That's only an opinion, not a fact. You don't dictate what "proper values" are. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

 

 

Nowhere has TBF or anyone else told you that your choice of values and focus are WRONG. We've only expressed our disappointment in and disagreement with your chosen values.

[Star Gazer]

It's only considered not respectable to people who have a problem with porn, or somehow feel porn is immoral. I absolutely do not share that belief.

 

I disagree. I have smoked pot. I don't think drugs in and of themselves are immoral. But I don't think anyone should profit from their sale and/or use. Same goes for porn. Again, it's only MY opinion. I'd rather be dirt poor than have your profession.

[cutegirl]

SG, I noticed that re: cutegirl and her high-end handbags as well. I didn't want to make snap judgments (I usually do but am working on not doing so), but it did look a tad shallow.

 

 

And what is wrong with liking handbags? A LOT of people like handbags, so many people that there are blogs and forums dedicated to handbags...where you can see pictures of them, of course people are going to take pics of their new purchases etc...

 

Is it only "ok" to shop from Sears and Walmart or something? Do you think it's disgusting just to prefer something that is expensive or considered a status symbol?

[bish]

I guess you don't what "marketing" and "selling" means. There's a big difference between being IN it and SELLING it through affiliate programs.

 

What do you think pimps do? They sell and market their ho's quite well.

[Star Gazer]

Accept who you are.. be happy that you make a good living.. but don't throw it in peoples faces or you will be a very lonely person..

 

This is where there's a disconnect, CG. I have the same lifestyle (monetarily speaking) that you have. But I don't throw it in people's faces. There's no need to.

 

And what is wrong with liking handbags? A LOT of people like handbags, so many people that there are blogs and forums dedicated to handbags...where you can see pictures of them, of course people are going to take pics of their new purchases etc...

 

Is it only "ok" to shop from Sears and Walmart or something? Do you think it's disgusting just to prefer something that is expensive or considered a status symbol?

 

Nothing is wrong with liking handbags. Most women do. But when you're obsessed with them as a form of "bling" and as a status symbol, even posting pictures of yourself carrying those high end bags, it becomes pathetic.

 

Thing is, YOU consider designer handbags a status symbol, that's clear. You don't buy an LV bag simply because you like the way it looks. You buy it BECAUSE it's an LV bag and BECAUSE it will garner you attention from others who consider it a status symbol. You're the type who carries LV, Gucci, Coach, Fendi, Dior, Chanel, etc., making sure that everyone knows what it is. You probably even make sure it's a signature series, so that Jane Doe walking down the street recognizes the brand. You don't buy these pieces for their quality or design, but for their street credit. That's sad. I have $600 bags from designers you and most others probably have never even heard of. I bought those bags because I loved how they looked, how they were made and designed, and because I could - not because they are considered "status symbols." In the same vain, I also buy handbags from Target, again, because I love how they look. And if some LV-carrying chick complements me on it, I'm always sure to tell her it was $14.99.

 

In other words, yes. To prefer something just because it is expensive is pathetic. A great big dollar sign does in and of itself equal quality or class. Same goes for character.

[bish]

Accept who you are.. be happy that you make a good living.. but don't throw it in peoples faces or you will be a very lonely person..

 

bingo! and thats why I think she is sooooo desperately wanting us to know how much she makes. Because she has nothing else in life.

 

I think alot of people don't have too much of a problem with porn, but when making friends, I dare say many people want to hang out with a porn peddler.

 

Really, why so desperately announcing her income if she has friends that accept her?

[Trialbyfire]

Point blank CG. You can't buy real respect or caring.

[Trimmer]

That said, I do think money does matter. It gives you freedom, choices..... NO money at all does kind of suck.

 

I guess I thought the OP was looking to see whether it was a plus or a minus for a woman to be doing that well. I think it's definitely a plus, as long as all the other necessary elements are there re: personality.

But listen to your own comment: you take it as a given, as a pre-existing requirement, that "all the other necessary elements" are there... In that case, sure, how could money NOT be a plus?

 

But I don't get the sense that she is asking about someone who makes "enough" money vs. someone with NO money. She's asking about the attractiveness of high-earners vs. "plain people." And in that case, I still say, money is not enough of a factor that I would be attracted to a wealthy woman with a bad personality. And money is also not enough of a factor that I would avoid a woman with an attractive persona, who didn't make 'six figures', or made significantly less than me, or whatever line you want to draw in the sand.

 

Here's one exception I just thought of: I can imagine finding a woman interesting, in a sense partly "because of her money," if she had earned it in a clever, honorable, goal-oriented, hard-working way, or if after earning it, she was doing something celver, honorable, goal-oriented, and hard-working with it. But then again, that attraction once again turns out to be completely about her personality - the person she is - rather than the number of zeros left of the decimal, isn't it?

 

And incidentally, this is not a veiled swipe at cutegirl's choice of profession, on which I'll keep my opinion to myself. But as in my other comments in this thread, the person you are comes through somehow, and that's what I notice about a woman. Money is nice, sure (like health - who would turn it down?) but incidental to my feelings about a woman.

[cutegirl]

This is where there's a disconnect, CG. I have the same lifestyle (monetarily speaking) that you have. But I don't throw it in people's faces. There's no need to.

 

 

 

Nothing is wrong with liking handbags. Most women do. But when you're obsessed with them as a form of "bling" and as a status symbol, even posting pictures of yourself carrying those high end bags, it becomes pathetic.

 

Thing is, YOU consider designer handbags a status symbol, that's clear. You don't buy an LV bag simply because you like the way it looks. You buy it BECAUSE it's an LV bag and BECAUSE it will garner you attention from others who consider it a status symbol. You're the type who carries LV, Gucci, Coach, Fendi, Dior, Chanel, etc., making sure that everyone knows what it is. You probably even make sure it's a signature series, so that Jane Doe walking down the street recognizes the brand. You don't buy these pieces for their quality or design, but for their street credit. That's sad. I have $600 bags from designers you and most others probably have never even heard of. I bought those bags because I loved how they looked, how they were made and designed, and because I could - not because they are considered "status symbols." In the same vain, I also buy handbags from Target, again, because I love how they look. And if some LV-carrying chick complements me on it, I'm always sure to tell her it was $14.99.

 

In other words, yes. To prefer something just because it is expensive is pathetic. A great big dollar sign does in and of itself equal quality or class. Same goes for character.

 

Well, actually I like both, the design AND the status, but I'm not going to lie and say that the status part doesn't matter.

 

Many people who like handbags will say the same thing that you do; that they don't care about status and that they only buy items because of their "design", "craftsmanship" or "quality", which may be true, but I also think a lot of people are in semi-denial and just don't want to admit that part of it is also status because it's not the politically correct thing to do.

 

As for me, I DON'T like to buy the extremely recognizable bags such as LV Monogram or Chanel Cambon, mainly because these bags in particular are faked SO MUCH that I wouldn't want mine to be mistaken as one too. I don't want to wear a particular piece that where there are so many fake replicas of it. I would chose something a LITTLE bit more low key, but not so low key that no one will recognize it. It's not a big deal anyways to wear designer bags in Southern Ca because everyone and their mom wears them, real and fake alike.

 

Also for me it's not just the status of the bag but also the "it-factor". Sometimes certain bags will become "it-bags" cause certain celebs carry them. I think fashion and bags these days are highly celeb-driven.

[nittygritty]

Shouldn't your question be "What do you men think about women who earn 6 figures a year selling internet porn?

[cutegirl]

But listen to your own comment: you take it as a given, as a pre-existing requirement, that "all the other necessary elements" are there... In that case, sure, how could money NOT be a plus?

 

But I don't get the sense that she is asking about someone who makes "enough" money vs. someone with NO money. She's asking about the attractiveness of high-earners vs. "plain people." And in that case, I still say, money is not enough of a factor that I would be attracted to a wealthy woman with a bad personality. And money is also not enough of a factor that I would avoid a woman with an attractive persona, who didn't make 'six figures', or made significantly less than me, or whatever line you want to draw in the sand.

 

Here's one exception I just thought of: I can imagine finding a woman interesting, in a sense partly "because of her money," if she had earned it in a clever, honorable, goal-oriented, hard-working way, or if after earning it, she was doing something celver, honorable, goal-oriented, and hard-working with it. But then again, that attraction once again turns out to be completely about her personality - the person she is - rather than the number of zeros left of the decimal, isn't it?

 

And incidentally, this is not a veiled swipe at cutegirl's choice of profession, on which I'll keep my opinion to myself. But as in my other comments in this thread, the person you are comes through somehow, and that's what I notice about a woman. Money is nice, sure (like health - who would turn it down?) but incidental to my feelings about a woman.

 

I already know that the #1 thing guys look for is LOOKS. I have read this in many scientific studies, books in relationships, etc If necessary I will go look for evidence somewhere online to support my claim. Guys usually don't care about a woman's earning power that much. They usually place the most emphasis on physical appearance.

 

That wasn't my question though. I was just asking if there was a woman who earned decent money how they would feel about that in general... if they would be intimidated or threatened or in shock and awe... etc

[cutegirl]

Shouldn't your question be "What do you men think about women who earn 6 figures a year selling internet porn?

 

Most guys that I know in real life like it. They are always asking me how to teach them to make money, and the guys I know love women and porn so no problems there.

 

I wanted to ask a more general question because even though some of the guys I have encountered in real life are fine with successful women, I always notice a lot of sexism on-line, even in places like Loveshack. It's not blatant sexism, it's like people ASSUMING things, like people automatically ASSUME it's the man who is the breadwinner, or that the woman can't support herself without the man and depends financially on him. Or if I drive a nice car people might ASSUME it's my bf's car. Just stuff like that...

 

All of that just made me wonder if some men can even comprehend the fact that it is possible for a woman to outearn her partner or be able to support herself, because from what I read people just usually ASSUME that she can't even though there is no evidence for this. This is what irks me the most.

[Star Gazer]

Many people who like handbags will say the same thing that you do; that they don't care about status and that they only buy items because of their "design", "craftsmanship" or "quality", which may be true, but I also think a lot of people are in semi-denial and just don't want to admit that part of it is also status because it's not the politically correct thing to do.

 

I'm not in denial. Like I said, many of my bags aren't even identifiable to the average person. As are many of my suits and shoes. I've chosen these peices because of their material and craftmanship, and their fit and design for my tastes. Only those who have the same stuff would know what it is, and they and I have too much class to discuss amongst ourselves how much our things cost. Men are the same with watches. A Rolex is worn simply as a status symbol. A Brietling is chosen for its quality and function.

 

As for me, I DON'T like to buy the extremely recognizable bags such as LV Monogram or Chanel Cambon, mainly because these bags in particular are faked SO MUCH that I wouldn't want mine to be mistaken as one too.

 

Again, you just proved my point. You carry said bags BECAUSE people KNOW they cost a lot of money. That's "in your face" and just flat out tacky.

[Trialbyfire]

Again, you just proved my point. You carry said bags BECAUSE people KNOW they cost a lot of money. That's "in your face" and just flat out tacky.

This is why I carry Coach. I like the quality and the subtlety.

[Star Gazer]

I wanted to ask a more general question because even though some of the guys I have encountered in real life are fine with successful women, I always notice a lot of sexism on-line, even in places like Loveshack. It's not blatant sexism, it's like people ASSUMING things, like people automatically ASSUME it's the man who is the breadwinner, or that the woman can't support herself without the man and depends financially on him. Or if I drive a nice car people might ASSUME it's my bf's car.

 

I think your experience is based on your attitude and the way you present yourself to these people who are "assuming" things. If a man or woman boasts about material things, rubs it in others faces, shows off...others will question how they obtained those things. However, if a woman carries herself professionally, with confidence and elegance, I doubt anyone would question her income level, her ability to provide for herself, or her ownership of her own car. Personally, I have never had anyone show surprise at my income level, or think that my car wasn't mine.

[Trimmer]

I already know that the #1 thing guys look for is LOOKS. I have read this in many scientific studies, books in relationships, etc If necessary I will go look for evidence somewhere online to support my claim. Guys usually don't care about a woman's earning power that much. They usually place the most emphasis on physical appearance.

Are you talking about initial attraction, or selection of a long-term relationship partner? If we're talking about initial attraction, then I can't disagree with you.

 

And so, haven't you kind of answered your own question then: "Guys usually don't care about a woman's earning power that much."

 

That wasn't my question though. I was just asking if there was a woman who earned decent money how they would feel about that in general... if they would be intimidated or threatened or in shock and awe... etc

Guys usually don't care about a woman's earning power that much

 

All of that just made me wonder if some men can even comprehend the fact that it is possible for a woman to outearn her partner or be able to support herself, because from what I read people just usually ASSUME that she can't even though there is no evidence for this. This is what irks me the most.

Why does this irk you so much? Doesn't your money give you the confidence not to worry about what other people think?

 

Or put another way: you make a lot of money - I see no reason to doubt that. But it's not enough, is it, unless people recognize you for it? Is that it? As much money as you make, is that the wage you can't figure out how to earn?

[cutegirl]

If a woman makes 7 figures then would that change anything ?..

 

6 figures is a norm today considering inflation from the last 20 years..

Now 7 figures is a class change..

 

It wouldn't change anything for me .. other than I could get free good investment advice for my 4 figure salary..

 

Yes, I know six figures is the norm now. When I was growing up a six-figure income was huge but not so much anymore. It's hard to make 7 figures though, I don't think I could make that much. With investments and savings my net worth could be in the many millions one day but it will take a long time. Also, 1 mil is not a lot these days, I would need more than that in order to be financially secure.

 

Even though six figures is the norm as you stated, I created the topic because it seemed to me that most people cannot even fathom that a woman could make even that... It seems like people have very low expectations and standards for women.

[lindya]

Many people who like handbags will say the same thing that you do; that they don't care about status and that they only buy items because of their "design", "craftsmanship" or "quality", which may be true, but I also think a lot of people are in semi-denial and just don't want to admit that part of it is also status because it's not the politically correct thing to do.

 

I think people do like expensive props, and that that's fairly normal. You're basically saying "at least I admit it". Well....yes.

 

I don't see the problem with that....but it sounds as if you're preoccupied with material possessions to an unusual extent, and I think people will often perceive that as demonstrating a certain insecurity and some weakness of character. A sense that you don't think that you yourself are enough - and that only with props can you win other people's respect. If they don't give you that respect, it maybe becomes a source of confusion and frustration.

 

When it comes to it, few people are going to say "I really want to be cutegirl because she's driving a top of the range car and carries a prestigious handbag." They might say "I'd like to have those possessions cutegirl has" - but that's not at all the same as saying "I really admire cutegirl, and I wish I were more like her."

 

So the possessions, rather than you, get the attention....and in a way you re-create that onto this forum. You start a thread asking men how they feel about high-earning women. "How do you feel about my money? What do you think of my car? Do you approve of my home? Do you think it's good that I earn six figures, or does it intimidate you" By taking that approach, you risk other people forming feelings about and relationships with your possessions and your bank account rather than with you.

 

After all, if your giving the message that your possessions are more important than you yourself are (and I think with most of your posts you do give that impression) then other people will accept that as the way it is.

 

"Do I like cutegirl? Don't know. Never really thought about it - but she's got a nice car, and her handbag's very nice."

 

Don't you want to be more than that?

[nittygritty]

Most guys that I know in real life like it. They are always asking me how to teach them to make money, and the guys I know love women and porn so no problems there.

 

I wanted to ask a more general question because even though some of the guys I have encountered in real life are fine with successful women, I always notice a lot of sexism on-line, even in places like Loveshack. It's not blatant sexism, it's like people ASSUMING things, like people automatically ASSUME it's the man who is the breadwinner, or that the woman can't support herself without the man and depends financially on him. Or if I drive a nice car people might ASSUME it's my bf's car. Just stuff like that...

 

All of that just made me wonder if some men can even comprehend the fact that it is possible for a woman to outearn her partner or be able to support herself, because from what I read people just usually ASSUME that she can't even though there is no evidence for this. This is what irks me the most.

 

Okay but you have also stated in other threads that you prefer dating men that you earn more money than, so aren't you being sexist as well?

[Star Gazer]

Or put another way: you make a lot of money - I see no reason to doubt that. But it's not enough, is it, unless people recognize you for it? Is that it? As much money as you make, is that the wage you can't figure out how to earn?

 

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

[cutegirl]

This is why I carry Coach. I like the quality and the subtlety.

 

Coach is not really that subtle, especially the ones with all the tacky C's... Although of course they do have nicer stuff like the Legacy bags etc

 

Also, Coach is carried mostly by teens where I live. I don't really like Coach too much because it's too much of a "middle-class" brand. I know that sounded bad but that's not how I meant it. Coach is quite common too...