Actually, paint me a picture of a rich man?

She might be alluding to the Fidelity study where millionaires don't feel wealthy until they hit the benchmark of $7M.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/14/us-fidelity-survey-idUSTRE72D3RK20110314

Yes, that is part of it.

 

So 5.5 mil is only well off ..

Yes. It's not as much money as you might think. Particularly if you are young. I've had as much as 2 million once upon a time, and I wasn't even close to being rich. And no, I didn't spend money like water either.

 

Rich is when you have enough to retire and not worry when you want to buy a large screen TV, new car, or take an exotic vacation. It doesn't have to be "f*ck you" money but it has to be enough for a life of carefree fun.

 

Are you saying that a rich man by your definition would only marry without love ?

 

All rich guys aren't all materialistic snobs looking for arm candy..

Money doesn't necessarily define a person or their morality and by the way.. most rich men.. you would never know they are rich

No, I didn't mean that at all. Rich men marry for all the same reasons that other men do. I'm saying that the possibility of me finding a rich man who has the other qualities I want AND is available and loves me too is slim to none. There just aren't that many out there.

 

I'm saying that to marry a rich man, *I* would have to marry without love. And I'm not willing to do that.

No, I didn't mean that at all. Rich men marry for all the same reasons that other men do. I'm saying that the possibility of me finding a rich man who has the other qualities I want AND is available and loves me too is slim to none. There just aren't that many out there.

 

I'm saying that to marry a rich man, *I* would have to marry without love. And I'm not willing to do that.

 

At least you know your limitations

I'm saying that to marry a rich man, *I* would have to marry without love. And I'm not willing to do that.

 

Jazzari. If you want to marry a rich man, but want to be able to fall in love with him too and not compromise on the things you genuinely love in a man, then try looking in business owner meetup groups. There are lots of guys in there that do very well for themselves and either own their own businesses or are CEO's and earn well above average. There are enough of such groups and they are often large enough for a woman to be able to actually pick a guy that she likes. There are bound to be single guys amongst them.

 

Granted though, the topics they discuss there will be business related, but I'm sure you will be able to make guys notice you in a non-business related manner.

 

Business owners and CEO's also tend to hang out at trade shows. If there's one thing that's easy at trade shows it's getting a phone number. Men there give their business cards in the blink of an eye. Always try calling their mobile phone number instead of their company land line though, that way it's more personal. E-mailing them is also possible.

 

And then there are "particular cities and towns" where many of the rich reside. I presume everyone know such cities and towns, they often have multi million dollar homes and huge golf courses. Now those golf courses are where the rich guys hang out. It's often possible to have a drink there without needing a membership. There are bound to be rich single guys hanging out there, because a lot of business is actually conducted on golf courses.

 

So those are my tips regarding that. But like you said, don't settle for less than true love, no matter how much money they have.

Personally I couldn't care less how rich or poor a woman is, I just want to lead a happy life with her, that's it.

Edited April 19, 2011 by Nexus One

I hear that Warren Buffett guy has a few bucks laying around. Must be the low cost of living in Omaha that did it.

 

Seriously though, not all men go after the hottest women just like not all women go after the richest men. Sure fantasies exist, but they generally don't come true as those are the realities of life. Hell, I want a Ferrari 250 gt California. Anybody got $10 million for me?

Ironically, many rich men don't look rich.

 

But the showy ones attract women. For obvious reasons. Some of the showy ones aren't even rich, they just spend a larger chunk of their income on showy stuff.

 

I could go out and finance a $100,000 car today. Would I do it? Heck no. That would a very dumb way for me to spend my money. It would help me get a lot of attention from women though. Not worth it in my books. But if I were making half a million dollars a year, then sure, why not. I'd certainly welcome the advantage it'd provide me.

 

Being rich makes it easier to attract women. But the man still needs to have enough dating intelligence to utilize it. A little troll of a man that stays in his mansion and counts his money all day probably will get less women than I do. But if that little troll goes out and be social just like me, throws his money around a bit (which I can't do because I'm not rich), then he would do much better than I would.

 

Money is the great equalizer, but it's not magic.

That being said my husband would be considered by some to be a rich guy, since everything is about perspective. He's extremely intelligent, and works long hours in a challenging field he is an acknowledged master of, and he's pretty well compensated for it and financially stable. His intelligence and his accomplishments were a part of what attracted me to him, along with myriad other facets of who he is. Thing is, he could actually be making a lot more money than he makes right now. Before we even got married we talked about him taking the job he has now, which was more interesting and exciting to him than his other job offers, but paid a good deal less. I encouraged him to take this job, which would make him a happier man. So. He still makes enough that we are comfortable and I stay home with our baby and my stepdaughter and only work freelance, so I'm sure some posters can find a way to spin me as a gold-digger, if they feel like getting some vitriol out and making themselves feel better about the cold cruel universe for a few minutes.

In other words, you did marry a rich man.

 

No offense, but your story about yourself is akin to if I say, "I had the options to get a supermodel and a playboy model. But I dont care about looks. So I chose the playboy model instead of the supermodel. You see, Im such a good person because I could have gotten the supermodel instead."

 

You have a story to tell if for example you had the choice to marry an architect and a small time cook and you chose the small time cook.

 

For me a true love is when a woman gives up a richer man for a poorer man and when a man gives up a more attractive woman for a less attractive woman.

Edited April 20, 2011 by musemaj11

Actually was watching Susie Orman the other day and she was saying even 7million is not wealthy anymore, in today's economy. Kind of sad.

Yeah, I'd probably agree. The picture I painted is generally valued in the 70-100MM range, which I'd consider 'rich', especially for a first generation American. He's also been married over 50 years AFAIK.

 

In my own datapoint, I had a SAHM for a mother and dad did well enough as a CPA to put me through private school. We didn't 'struggle' but weren't anything north of comfortable. I worked from a young age and paid for my own college. Being a SAHM, no matter the man's profession or income, to me, is a couple's lifestyle choice. Couples of all economic levels can do it if they want to. Life is about choices. Money does provide freedom to make more and different choices, but choices are still there regardless.

 

Some of my friends opined that my exW was a gold-digger but, TBH, I'm not worthy of that kind of attention. The man in my story, sure, all of it relevant to geography and demographics. Rich in one social and geographic area can be nondescript in another. In the end, you can't take it with you

Ironically, many rich men don't look rich.

 

 

This is very true. I know a good number of guys who wear jeans and t shirts everyday but own tons of real estate and rental properties and are making a killing. Really wealthy people are more interested in building wealth instead of status and being flashy.

"Quote:

Originally Posted by fishtaco

Ironically, many rich men don't look rich.

 

This is very true. I know a good number of guys who wear jeans and t shirts everyday but own tons of real estate and rental properties and are making a killing. Really wealthy people are more interested in building wealth instead of status and being flashy."

__________________

 

The ones who've earned it know better than to show off. Even a few mobsters, such as Meyer Lansky, had millions stashed away when they died, but yet they didn't live extravagantly.

Ironically, many rich men don't look rich.

Either they are old rich men who prefer comfort over fashion, or they are geeky rich men who have no sense of fashion in the first place.

 

A rich athlete is going to look different than a rich number cruncher.

You guys kill me when it comes to assumptions about the wealthy. There are flashy, not flashy, miserly, overly-generous, pretty much any spectrum of wealthy men out there, same as men who fit into any other socio-economic category.

 

They breathe, eat, crap, piss, drink, bone, masturbate, just like everyone else!

You guys kill me when it comes to assumptions about the wealthy. There are flashy, not flashy, miserly, overly-generous, pretty much any spectrum of wealthy men out there, same as men who fit into any other socio-economic category.

 

They breathe, eat, crap, piss, drink, bone, masturbate, just like everyone else!

 

Ah, but one thing they arguably have in common is they're not stupid. If they were, they wouldn't be rich for long.

Ah, but one thing they arguably have in common is they're not stupid. If they were, they wouldn't be rich for long.

Err, just because you are rich doesnt mean you are smart. 50 cent is rich. Do you think he is smart?

Err, just because you are rich doesnt mean you are smart. 50 cent is rich. Do you think he is smart?

 

I would say he's at least street smart. Besides being a rapper the guy has a business empire. "smartness" can come in different styles. The same goes for intelligence, knowledge, savvyness, cleverness, you name it.

 

I once saw a bunch of businessmen sitting in a restaurant. One guy yelled: "When you all were still doing your homework for school, I was already making millions!" to which the businessmen started condescendingly laughing out loud at the guy for making that comment, implying that they were educated and he was not. But I got the idea that the guy who yelled that was insecure and wanted to prove that he too was worthy in their midst. Obviously the educated businessmen looked down upon him. While I thought he was blunt about it, I respected him for what he seemed to have accomplished, despite him not being educated. I thought: "F*ck them, you're worthy, you worked for it."

 

Everyone has their own style. Everyone is trying to get by in life and does it their way. It goes for the poor and the rich and for everyone in between.

Edited April 20, 2011 by Nexus One

I would say he's at least street smart. Besides being a rapper the guy has a business empire. "smartness" can come in different styles. The same goes for intelligence, knowledge, savvyness, cleverness, you name it.

 

I once saw a bunch of businessmen sitting in a restaurant. One guy yelled: "When you all were still doing your homework for school, I was already making millions!" to which the businessmen started laughing at the guy for making that comment, implying that they were educated and he was not. But I got the idea that the guy who yelled that was insecure and wanted to prove that he too was worthy. Obviously the educated businessmen looked down upon him. While I thought he was blunt about it, I respected him for what he seemed to have accomplished, despite him not being educated. I thought: "F*ck those haters, you're worthy man, you worked for it."

 

Everyone has their own style. Everyone is trying to get by in life and does it their way. It goes for the poor and the rich and for everyone in between.

 

Agreed, he may not be educated, but he obviously holds some level of intelligence and business acumen. Actually, the true brains behind it all is Dr.Dre. He started the label lured major acts by allowing to start their own labels and make even more money for him in a basic multi-level marketing pay structure. His Aftermath records owns Slim Shady records which in turn owns 50 cent's G-Unit records. Not bad for a guy who grew up on the street. Similarly, Jenna Jameson recognized the power in owning the rights of her own product and turned the porn world on its head.

In other words, you did marry a rich man.

 

No offense, but your story about yourself is akin to if I say, "I had the options to get a supermodel and a playboy model. But I dont care about looks. So I chose the playboy model instead of the supermodel. You see, Im such a good person because I could have gotten the supermodel instead."

 

You have a story to tell if for example you had the choice to marry an architect and a small time cook and you chose the small time cook.

 

For me a true love is when a woman gives up a richer man for a poorer man and when a man gives up a more attractive woman for a less attractive woman.

 

Sorry M, but this doesn't even make sense. Why would I give up one person for another and then call that love? Wouldn't that just be fickleness, inconstancy, disloyalty? For that matter, why would someone who values personality and ethics over money choose a CROOK over a disciplined, artistic architect? Really, do you think before you write?

 

I have dated poor men in the past. Artists, students. I was engaged to one of them, and HE left me and broke MY heart. Does this somehow prove love to you? Does it make you think I must have loved that man more than I love my actual husband, whom I have lived with happy and intimate for several years building a family and a future?

 

I would recommend that you take a second look at both your logic chain and your apparent value system, because they are flawed.

Err, just because you are rich doesnt mean you are smart. 50 cent is rich. Do you think he is smart?

 

Yes he is smart. He's a businessman and worked hard to get where he's at. There are many ways to educate oneself without reading a f*cking "science" book.

Err, just because you are rich doesnt mean you are smart. 50 cent is rich. Do you think he is smart?

Really? You must not know much about him.

You guys kill me when it comes to assumptions about the wealthy. There are flashy, not flashy, miserly, overly-generous, pretty much any spectrum of wealthy men out there, same as men who fit into any other socio-economic category.

 

They breathe, eat, crap, piss, drink, bone, masturbate, just like everyone else!

 

Exactly my point. Hence some rich people play their role and "look flashy", and some are just "quietly" rich.

 

The look is just a look. Sometimes they are the rich flashy guys, but sometime they are non-rich guys emulating the rich flashy look. Because it works.

 

If I pulled up to the bar I was at tonight in a Lamborghini, I would have gotten a lot of attention from the ladies there. That's just how the world works.

Sorry M, but this doesn't even make sense. Why would I give up one person for another and then call that love? Wouldn't that just be fickleness, inconstancy, disloyalty? For that matter, why would someone who values personality and ethics over money choose a CROOK over a disciplined, artistic architect? Really, do you think before you write?

 

I have dated poor men in the past. Artists, students. I was engaged to one of them, and HE left me and broke MY heart. Does this somehow prove love to you? Does it make you think I must have loved that man more than I love my actual husband, whom I have lived with happy and intimate for several years building a family and a future?

 

I would recommend that you take a second look at both your logic chain and your apparent value system, because they are flawed.

All I was saying was that you probably thought you had a special story of 'love' about how you let your husband took a HIGH paying job that he would enjoy instead of an even HIGHER paying job that he would despise.

 

But that is hardly a story to tell. Thats my point. At the end of the day you still have a rich husband.

Yes he is smart. He's a businessman and worked hard to get where he's at. There are many ways to educate oneself without reading a f*cking "science" book.

Blah, he is just a thug who made money through making crap music condoning violence. Most of his business decisions were probably made by his lawyer or adviser.

hey what do ya know a thread that resembles me.

 

i have a net worth around 3.5 mil. my yearly income is top 5% of the population, IRS wise. i'm not employed per se, i own pieces of commercial property that pay me rent every month just like any other landlord.

 

then again compared to the warren buffetts of the world i'm small potatoes.

 

the point above about millions not being as much as they used to be is true. i would put my comfort range more around the area of 10 mil, rather than 7. with 10 mil even a loss of half would result in me being better off than where i'm at now. i intend to be at that 10 mil range in another 15 years or so.

 

is it hard to find women if you have money? not really. but it's not hard to make friends with a hungry stray dog or cat either. is it hard to find the women you want? yes, regardless of money. anyone with money can get laid, sure. but most of the ones you'll catch you don't want to be around for very long.

 

it's a lot easier to be lonely with money than without, to be honest.

 

in my case, i only really trust my attorney. even my CPA i check up on. people i might deal with gain and lose trust just like any other friendship might gain or lose trust, but the small amount of distrust is always there. it's not people's feelings that matter, it's their motivations. and if someone has something to gain from your loss you have to distrust them to an extent. no one signs contracts without reading them, even if they came from your best friend in the business world.

 

people who are content with their jobs do not have to be so protective of trust. having that job to go to every day gives you a constant and ever changing social circle of people, most of which you can trust to an extent because there's nothing for you or them to gain from abusing those friendships. the few that do abuse other people in attempts to get ahead of everyone else are just that, few. whereas i have to assume that's everyone.

 

from a relationship perspective, it can be difficult, to be honest. other people have those jobs to go to every day, including single women. i have time to kill. if i don't feel like earning anything this year, i'll just quit for awhile and do something else. so there's an inherent lifestyle difference there, and short of giving all the money away and going back to a job, i can't change that lifestyle. to be with me on a long term basis means her lifestyle changes, not mine. finding someone else to live like that with you isn't easy, because that's a pretty big commitment, for many women who are content with their careers perhaps a bigger commitment than marriage. what happens if she leaves her job and the relationship doesn't work out? i lose nothing, she loses a lot.

 

ironically, when you consider all that, the most compatible women you look for as relationship material can very well wind up being the ones who don't care about the money. if they don't care about my money they probably won't care as much about theirs, either. they might be content to quit a job, or quit a career, to be in a relationship that is more important to them than the money. in that case the money winds up being 'just there', it wouldn't become the central concern or limiting factor, as it is with people who have 40-60 hours of every week accounted for before they get out of bed on mondays.

 

at least that's how i like to think of it, and no i haven't found her yet.

 

even if i think i have, people react so differently to the money and those reactions and opinions change over time. what was a lot of money yesterday doesn't seem like a lot tomorrow. what can be a sort of short term addiction to buying things and shopping for stuff you always wanted but never had soon passes, and then you have to decide what you REALLY want when the stuff money can buy doesn't satisfy you anymore.

 

the above is something every person has to discover for themselves. i can give a woman many things she can't provide for herself, but i can't give her that knowledge, experience, and contentment about money if she never had money before, she has to figure that out on her own.

 

are you happy?

 

it's a yes or no question, and the word money isn't in it.

Edited April 20, 2011 by thatone

hey what do ya know a thread that resembles me.

 

i have a net worth around 3.5 mil. my yearly income is top 5% of the population, IRS wise. i'm not employed per se, i own pieces of commercial property that pay me rent every month just like any other landlord.

 

then again compared to the warren buffetts of the world i'm small potatoes.

 

the point above about millions not being as much as they used to be is true. i would put my comfort range more around the area of 10 mil, rather than 7. with 10 mil even a loss of half would result in me being better off than where i'm at now. i intend to be at that 10 mil range in another 15 years or so.

 

is it hard to find women if you have money? not really. but it's not hard to make friends with a hungry stray dog or cat either. is it hard to find the women you want? yes, regardless of money. anyone with money can get laid, sure. but most of the ones you'll catch you don't want to be around for very long.

 

it's a lot easier to be lonely with money than without, to be honest.

 

in my case, i only really trust my attorney. even my CPA i check up on. people i might deal with gain and lose trust just like any other friendship might gain or lose trust, but the small amount of distrust is always there. it's not people's feelings that matter, it's their motivations. and if someone has something to gain from your loss you have to distrust them to an extent. no one signs contracts without reading them, even if they came from your best friend in the business world.

 

people who are content with their jobs do not have to be so protective of trust. having that job to go to every day gives you a constant and ever changing social circle of people, most of which you can trust to an extent because there's nothing for you or them to gain from abusing those friendships. the few that do abuse other people in attempts to get ahead of everyone else are just that, few. whereas i have to assume that's everyone.

 

from a relationship perspective, it can be difficult, to be honest. other people have those jobs to go to every day, including single women. i have time to kill. if i don't feel like earning anything this year, i'll just quit for awhile and do something else. so there's an inherent lifestyle difference there, and short of giving all the money away and going back to a job, i can't change that lifestyle. to be with me on a long term basis means her lifestyle changes, not mine. finding someone else to live like that with you isn't easy, because that's a pretty big commitment, for many women who are content with their careers perhaps a bigger commitment than marriage. what happens if she leaves her job and the relationship doesn't work out? i lose nothing, she loses a lot.

 

ironically, when you consider all that, the most compatible women you look for as relationship material can very well wind up being the ones who don't care about the money. if they don't care about my money they probably won't care as much about theirs, either. they might be content to quit a job, or quit a career, to be in a relationship that is more important to them than the money. in that case the money winds up being 'just there', it wouldn't become the central concern or limiting factor, as it is with people who have 40-60 hours of every week accounted for before they get out of bed on mondays.

 

at least that's how i like to think of it, and no i haven't found her yet.

 

even if i think i have, people react so differently to the money and those reactions and opinions change over time. what was a lot of money yesterday doesn't seem like a lot tomorrow. what can be a sort of short term addiction to buying things and shopping for stuff you always wanted but never had soon passes, and then you have to decide what you REALLY want when the stuff money can buy doesn't satisfy you anymore.

 

the above is something every person has to discover for themselves. i can give a woman many things she can't provide for herself, but i can't give her that knowledge, experience, and contentment about money if she never had money before, she has to figure that out on her own.

 

are you happy?

 

it's a yes or no question, and the word money isn't in it.

 

You can say this because you HAVE it. You have money.

Some advice:

 

1)Don't get married.

2)Don't cohabit with women.

3)Don't get women pregnant.

4)Don't date women for more than some months, as the state is creating more and more ways to exploit people.

 

And best of all: pretend to be poor.

 

If you don't follow my advice, you'll probably end up like those chumps I see in court, who married an equal woman, but somehow, that prenup, or that judge, decided that the woman was a victim and deserved half of your things for having had a few sessions of sex with you.

 

Sad to say, this doesn't happen outside of America, UK and all these other progressive nations. In fact, it is the opposite. Women rights here are not strong at all. That's why we don't have so many pregnancy problems or prenups, etc etc. Because our govt does NOT give you funds or aids if you are single and pregnant. Women are scared to get pregnant if they are not married and don't have a stable income. Coz it means going out to live on the streets. So usually, they would dump babies in the toilets and bins. It really is another kind of 'social ill' here.

 

It is not the women's problem, it is your country's problem.

Oh, but you live in a true patriarchy. We in the western world live in an apparent patriarchy but with very heavy undertones of a matriarchy being at play, and its been like this for many thousands of years.

 

For example, people think that the women in Sparta were oppressed, but the truth is that women held most of the man's money and properties, and while he was away, getting maimed or killed, she was free to do whatever she pleased, and maybe she was even getting it on with the slaves.

 

Did you know that the Spartan soldiers were made to mate in their 30's, and that in most cases they had to have a helping hand(seriously) from their male friends ,because, they were only allowed to be near women was when the state decided that it was time to reproduce?

 

Yet, we see all this guys in the movies 300 act as if Romance and Love was present - as it is today, in every Disney movie.

 

LOL!!!!! Awww. I don't know, but from where I live - it truly is a man's world. Everything that women do is because of a man. Isn't that true? From losing weight, to make up to dressing? Imagine if there were NO men in this world, would women even bother about their appearance? I don't know. And please don't tell me 'Well they would to compete among themselves.' Uh huh, competition to have the MAN's attention yes.