irc333 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm noticing this among the general pollution as a whole, but it definitely could cause problems when dating. For instance, an overly obese person who is proud of being overly obese. Someone who is a *itch* and displays it proudly on a shirt, 51% sweetheart, 49% *itch" don't push it....and so on. It's like people are acknowledging their most worst attributes as something to be proud of, when it's really something they should be ashamed of, yes? Where did this all come from? Is this akin to giving trophies to ALL the little league base ball players? Awarding mediocrity? Link to post Share on other sites
Lernaean_Hydra Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 People have always been proud of certain things that the majority of others might frown upon (mobsters proud of being criminals, women proud of being "easy", etc). What you take pride in and what others do will definitely vary from circle to circle. In some circles, a woman burning her cheating husband's house to the ground may be lauded and praised, meanwhile in others it will only cause a sense of loathing and disdain. To some, a man fresh out of prison for beating a guy senseless in a bar fight would bring on some serious horror and disgust, yet to a different crowd he'd get nothing but high-fives and handshakes. I think most of us have things we're proud of (and if not proud then certainly not ashamed) that others would be appalled by, and this 'trend' isn't new. Maybe just more visible. Where did this all come from? Is this akin to giving trophies to ALL the little league base ball players? Awarding mediocrity? No, because there's no reward to be had, just someone advertising their own flaws (albeit pridefully). Frankly, I'd rather people be upfront about their worst qualities so I can choose whether I should even bother with them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 To some, a man fresh out of prison for beating a guy senseless in a bar fight would bring on some serious horror and disgust, yet to a different crowd he'd get nothing but high-fives and handshakes. FUnny thing, I saw Mickey Rourke being interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel and apparently Rourke didn't think a certain movie he did was funny only because his style of "humor" was different from others. He said, "What me and some of my friends find funny is when a man is caught on fire and we *iss on him to put the fire out." Yeah, Rourke is a nutjob as most people have said. Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Yep, as a straight asexual man, I'm supposed to go crawl under a rock somewhere and die of shame. Ain't nobody got the balls to actually rub me out, though... Link to post Share on other sites
R3d Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I think it comes from the whole learning to "love yourself" thing and how people preach that you should accept and embrace every quality about yourself. I actually just started a thread kind of related to this: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/general/general-relationship-discussion/490977-bad-i-am-drawn-needy-clingy-girls/new-post.html You know? Loving myself for being needy and clingy? Link to post Share on other sites
Disillusioned Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I think it comes from the whole learning to "love yourself" thing and how people preach that you should accept and embrace every quality about yourself. I actually just started a thread kind of related to this: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/general/general-relationship-discussion/490977-bad-i-am-drawn-needy-clingy-girls/new-post.html You know? Loving myself for being needy and clingy? In the case of asexuals, it's more like "go put a loaded automatic pistol in your mouth and see how many times you can pull the trigger". Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm noticing this among the general pollution as a whole, but it definitely could cause problems when dating. For instance, an overly obese person who is proud of being overly obese. Someone who is a *itch* and displays it proudly on a shirt, 51% sweetheart, 49% *itch" don't push it....and so on. It's like people are acknowledging their most worst attributes as something to be proud of, when it's really something they should be ashamed of, yes? Where did this all come from? Is this akin to giving trophies to ALL the little league base ball players? Awarding mediocrity? Why should you get to decide how other people should feel about themselves? It's not the same as giving a trophy to a kid just for showing up. I agree with you on that. But that is someone else rewarding you whether you make an effort or not..it's not the same of just being proud of who you are. I have plenty of things I'd like to change about myself, but other people might see them as an asset if it was them. Who am I to tell them not to? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
preraph Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It just means people love themselves no matter what others think of them. It's healthy. It's a whole lot healthier than thinking there's only one right way to be and faulting others for not fitting that mold. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
No Limit Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Can't tell where the attitude came from, but those T-shirts are definitely coming from the internet and spread to a trend among younger people. Personally I hate any clothing with that type of messages on them, but it's nothing I would reject a guy for. What's worse and a definite dealbreaker is when a guy brags about how many liquor bottles he can empty without getting unconscious. That might impress a few 13-year-olds, but not me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Haydn Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I have a, `I love my mum`, T shirt. That seems to bring out the worst in some people especially when i wear it to Chelsea games. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TigerLilly78 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I have no reason to be "ashamed" of myself just because some might find me unattractive that's their opinion and while they are entitled to it it doesn't have a right to determine my self worth. Guess what you don't like me just cause im over weight fine don't date me don't talk to me its your loss the people in my life who matter can see me for who I really am and not a number on a scale..ide be more ashamed to have such a small mind.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Mascara Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I have a, `I love my mum`, T shirt. That seems to bring out the worst in some people especially when i wear it to Chelsea games. All Chelsea fans love their mum. A bit too much. OP. People show pride in attributes as a retaliation for people telling them they should be ashamed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
guest569 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 If someone is proud of being obese they have probably resigned to the fact they can't lose weight so learn to love themselves instead of trying to change it. I doubt there are many who seriously are proud of the fact they are massively overweight and can't get out of bed or breathe properly. I saw a documentary where a morbidly obese woman said 'if I could wake up tomorrow and be a size 12, I wouldn't. I wouldn't trade this body.' Later in the program she stopped pretending she was happy and started losing weight. As for the t-shirt slogans, I think they're just jokes. But that sort of attitude 'female dog and proud of it' I think is just immaturity and selfishness. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Don't they have fart contests? Yea...same thing.... Link to post Share on other sites
D.Mc. Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hi IRC333, Just wanted to say, it's not just physical attributes or personality, it's character and maybe morals...how many times have you heard someone say, coming out of a supermarket "oh, the cashier gave me too much change or didn't charge me for my filet mignon.." & they are proud of getting over on someone. This is prevalent in our society today, take it further & you've got all the business & $$ scams (Madoff/politicians/banks etc.) that plague us today. We are not supposed to be proud of "getting away" with anything, yet we are... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
marcjb Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) I am mainly noticing here that a decent amount of posters try and justify having a high number of sexual partners to the point of appearing proud of it. I'm still waiting for a reply from some posters on the definition of a certain word, because if someone who's slept with a bunch of people isn't what that word is, we need some clarification on what the definition is. You can't act like **** and then expect to not be called a ****. Edited August 24, 2014 by marcjb 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author irc333 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 I am mainly noticing here that a decent amount of posters try and justify having a high number of sexual partners to the point of appearing proud of it. I'm still waiting for a reply from some posters on the definition of a certain word, because if someone who's slept with a bunch of people isn't what that word is, we need some clarification on what the definition is. You can't act like **** and then expect to not be called a ****. Right, this is kind of synonymous to how people who drink in excess giving the "stink eye" those who don't drink at all. Even heard some people say, "I'll never trust someone who doesn't drink". Kind of like reverse racism. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GemmaUK Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Right, this is kind of synonymous to how people who drink in excess giving the "stink eye" those who don't drink at all. Even heard some people say, "I'll never trust someone who doesn't drink". Kind of like reverse racism. I've chatted with people on OLD who stated they didn't drink. Later down the line they would admit they were recovering alcoholics or had had bad experiences with drinking in the past with it causing them to become violent. I dated a man for a short time who said he didn't drink and it became apparent that this wasn't true at all and he was an alcoholic and not even in recovery. Re: the OP. I can't say that I know anyone who is obese and brags about it Plus, those kind of t-shirts are tongue in cheek. However '*itch' is now commonly used as an affectionate term for a woman who is independent and assertive. Link to post Share on other sites
marcjb Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Right, this is kind of synonymous to how people who drink in excess giving the "stink eye" those who don't drink at all. Even heard some people say, "I'll never trust someone who doesn't drink". Kind of like reverse racism. I do understand what you're saying, but the difference is that with racism a person has no control of what race they are. On the other hand, if a person has ****ed 30+ people or some ridiculous number relative to their age, then it's all on them. They will most likely lie to someone they want to be with about it making them fall for someone who they are really not. If a person wants to be "sexually liberating" then they should be honest about it on all fronts so that they don't go wasting someone else's time. I don't like being lied to and then feeling like I'm "just next in line". Edited August 24, 2014 by marcjb Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestUSA Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I'm noticing this among the general pollution as a whole I'm not sure your grammatical slip was unintentional. I look for and try to see the best in people. You'll find what you look for. If you want to constantly nit pick and look for the worst in people, that's your prerogative. Continue on. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
WesternWizard Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Well... I'll never understand guys who feel the need to yodel to the whole world about how many women they've screwed. There are enough to make it worthwhile to sell gold plated plastic trophy cups that say "I F***ED 1,000 WOMEN" on the little base plaque as gag gifts... though these guys would appreciate them as actual trophies, rather than resent them as a booby prize. Link to post Share on other sites
BlueIris Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I am mainly noticing here that a decent amount of posters try and justify having a high number of sexual partners to the point of appearing proud of it. I'm still waiting for a reply from some posters on the definition of a certain word, because if someone who's slept with a bunch of people isn't what that word is, we need some clarification on what the definition is. You can't act like **** and then expect to not be called a ****. Not all people view having lots of sex partners as something to be ashamed of, though. I'd far rather date a man who's had lots of sex than one who is mean or dishonest- and they just don't make t-shirts like that! But, if people wore t-shirts that said things like "I care more about money than my kids" (more common than I thought!) or "I hate liberals" I'd be grateful to know! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kolleamm Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I don't believe it's so much that their proud, but more that their just trying to make the best of it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KaliLove Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Not all people view having lots of sex partners as something to be ashamed of, though. I'd far rather date a man who's had lots of sex than one who is mean or dishonest- and they just don't make t-shirts like that! But, if people wore t-shirts that said things like "I care more about money than my kids" (more common than I thought!) or "I hate liberals" I'd be grateful to know! What would your t-shirt say? Link to post Share on other sites
BlueIris Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 What would your t-shirt say? haha! They actually say, "Blackhawks." But they should probably say, "too confused and undecided to deal with." Maybe "sometimes a bitch, sometimes a mouse. ya never know." What would yours say? Actually, part of your name, Kali, might apply to me on hot flash days! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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