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Old 20th January 2018, 12:18 PM   #1
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Defeating insomnia

https://www.prevention.com/health/na...sleep-remedies

A decent article about trying to beat insomnia the natural way before asking the doc any Ambien or downers.

Some of their points are well known by most people (turn off the tablet or phone an hour before hitting the sack, reading a book if you can't fall alseep within 20 minutes) others are more unheard of.

I have been going through painful insomnias all week and before I ask for meds will take their advices and remedies as truth telling. Hopefully this also help others here.
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Old 20th January 2018, 12:31 PM   #2
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the is a newer Rx drug called Belsomra that is supposed to be pretty good
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Old 20th January 2018, 12:51 PM   #3
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I was suffering from insomnia a few months back and felt cold all the time so I got some bloods done - it turns out I had an iron deficiency. I'm borderline anemic anyway but I'd lost a bit of weight (poor diet, not on purpose) and that affected my metabolism. I now take iron supplements and it seems to work.

My friend (who is a doc) said insomnia is sometimes linked to your body not producing enough red blood cells. It may be worth getting blood tests done to be on the safe side?
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Old 20th January 2018, 12:57 PM   #4
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It may be worth getting blood tests done to be on the safe side?
yes, a trip to the local M.D. is indicated
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Old 20th January 2018, 1:41 PM   #5
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I was suffering from insomnia a few months back and felt cold all the time so I got some bloods done - it turns out I had an iron deficiency. I'm borderline anemic anyway but I'd lost a bit of weight (poor diet, not on purpose) and that affected my metabolism. I now take iron supplements and it seems to work.
Have you checked your vitamin B12 levels? Mine are terribly low and I have similar symptoms.
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Have you checked your vitamin B12 levels? Mine are terribly low and I have similar symptoms.
Yes, they are fine. I think there are 2 types of anemia, B12-deficiency and iron-drficiency (mine). I assume anemia gives the same symptoms whether it's one or the other. It's been fine since the tablets though, so maybe blood tests could help Shanex with his issue.
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Old 20th January 2018, 4:01 PM   #7
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Iím so sorry youíre experiencing this. Thank you for sharing the article.

Iíve also found Epsom salt baths with lavender about an hour before bed very helpful. You can also get lavender oil pills at the local health store.

Please be careful of sleeping medications. These are ďZĒ drugs and have the same effects as benzodiazepines. They are highly addictive and should be used with caution.

I hope you feel better!!
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Old 20th January 2018, 4:24 PM   #8
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Thank you divegrl, I actually hadn't thought about a hot bath before bed. It does help. As long as I can stay away from any sleeping pills, I will.

No salt bath today and can't be bothered to purchase some now, but they will be on my next list when doing errands.

Insomnia really is bad. Feeling exhausted does play on my mood. I need my 8 hours, have had only 4-5 all week and I'm really done with it.
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I need my 8 hours, have had only 4-5 all week and I'm really done with it.
then go to the Dr. and get a Rx
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Old 26th January 2018, 5:15 AM   #10
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OP, How long have you been having trouble sleeping? If it has only been a week or so, not many doctors will prescribe anything for it. Typically, it has to be for a much longer period, and you will very likely have to go through a sleep study, and complete medical check up, if you haven't done so already. (Be sure to research the side effects of sleep medications before taking them. Many doctors will prescribe other medications off-label (not typically used for insomnia but often work well, without the severe side effects that many sleep medications have), instead of the standard sleep medications (Ambien, Belsomra, etc.).

There are a LOT of things to try before using prescription medications. Chamomile tea, change in routine, yoga, meditation, natural/herbal supplements, exercise, hot bath, dietary changes, therapy, etc. You can find dozens of "foolproof" remedy articles online, and if you're lucky something will work for you. Most take more that one night to work/not work, so it really is a trial and error kind of thing. Everyone is different, and what works for some, won't necessarily work for others.

Be very careful if you decide ro try Melatonin. Higher doses are rarely a good idea, and may cause more problems than it fixes if you overdo it. It is usually best if you try supplements like Melatonin, herbal sleep aids, etc. under the guidance of your doctor.

Some things that can cause insomnia: New job, stress, new bed/old bad, change in sleeping location, weather, new relationship, partners sleeping habits (snoring, restless sleeper, etc.) relationship stress, dietary changes, change in work schedule, caffeine, medications, hormonal imbalance, vitamin or mineral deficiency (vitamin D (specifically D3) is a relatively common deficiency, especially if you are indoors often or live in a place that is overcast/cloudy more often than it is sunny. *Vitamin D3 needs to be taken with magnesium and calcium for it to absorb adequately.*) medical issues (thyroid is another common cause) etc.

If something in your life has changed recently, is there any way to revert to pre-insomnia ways? Or, do you think with time you can adjust to those changes? Have you tried ear plugs, or an eye mask to block out distractions? If there is nothing you can pinpoint as the cause, and nothing is helping, definitely seek medical attention. Have your doctor run a complete blood panel, including vitamins and minerals. Sometimes it can be as simple as adjusting diet, or taking a vitamin/mineral supplement to get your sleep back on track. Your physician really is the best person to help you figure out what, if anything, you need.

I have severe insomnia, and have been dealing with it for well over 30 years. For some insomniatic people there really is no remedy, and we just learn to deal with it. It's normal for me to not sleep at all for 3-5 days at a time. I have been doing it for so long, I actually function pretty "normally" on no, to very little, sleep. When I hit day 8 or 9 without sleep, not so much. My sleep specialist often consults with me about potential treatments for other patients, because I have tried the majority of them, and spent many a sleepless night in college classes educating myself on causes and treatment options. I've had insomnia for 20+ years longer than she has been treating it. My lack of sleep has helped her many times over the years. So, I suppose there is a silver lining to be found.

I do apologize for such a long reply, but perhaps it will bore you to sleep

I know how difficult not sleeping, and being tired all of the time, is. I wish you luck in getting your sleep back on track. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you think it will help. Your doctor is the best option, but I am happy to answer the more non-medical type questions.
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i have insomnia at this period of time ...dont really know why...my blood pressure is up and i dont feel too good could be the meds i am on..and stress levels is ceiling height....i miss my furry friend who died keenly lately...i miss a friend who moved away and i havent seen him in forever it seems.....i miss his smile....the fact we dont even say hi anymore ...bugs me....
....i read somewhere last night while i was browsing the net .....cant remember what site because i have forgetfulness because of insomnia.....that the best time to fall asleep (because of a chemical in your body is most produced then to promote sleep is between 1030 pm and 11 30 pm to aim for that time)....so


i looked at my digital clock...and it said 130 am...and i thought there goes that idea tonight.....and kept browsing the net...went to bed at i dont know 3 something..


have you tried ambient music...deb
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There are a LOT of things to try before using prescription medications. Chamomile tea, change in routine, yoga, meditation, natural/herbal supplements, exercise, hot bath, dietary changes, therapy, etc. You can find dozens of "foolproof" remedy articles online, and if you're lucky something will work for you. Most take more that one night to work/not work, so it really is a trial and error kind of thing. Everyone is different, and what works for some, won't necessarily work for others.

Be very careful if you decide ro try Melatonin. Higher doses are rarely a good idea, and may cause more problems than it fixes if you overdo it. It is usually best if you try supplements like Melatonin, herbal sleep aids, etc. under the guidance of your doctor.
still not tired can you keep writing please.....:0)...thank you for writing your ideas..

i would like to add shanex ...dont think so much before bed time....like trying to remember names..when i start to think is when my brain starts rushing...doesnt matter how tired my body is...i have to get up and sit up..do you have a lot on your mind at bed time...i am now going researching to find the chemical released after sex and orgasm that makes you sleepy and see if i can buy a truck of it ..edit


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Although women sometimes feel sleepy after sex, the phenomenon does seem more pronounced in men. ... Research shows that during ejaculation, men release a cocktail of brain chemicals, including norepinephrine, serotonin, oxytocin, vasopressin, nitric oxide (NO), and the hormone prolactin.Feb 1, 2013.
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ISNT PROLACTIN MILK..when they gave me an injection of an antipsychotic i think it was depovera....my prolactin levels went to 300 times the norm..the doc nearly fainted......I was actually producing milk like i had triplets.....they took me off it pretty quick so had to put me back in hospital........so i wonder if milk is in your brain...is that the milk of human kindness....hahah..ahem..proof undeniable god has a sense of humor...and why kids get warmed milk before bed time.......deb

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Old 26th January 2018, 8:55 AM   #13
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I have had issues with sleep over the years and I have found these things to be most important.

1. Strict bed time. I make certain that i am in bed, lights off, smartphone out of reach by 10PM each and every night.

2. Stop drinking coffee by 3PM.

3. Exercise daily.

4. Wake up around the same time. I get up at 5-530AM each morning.

I get a solid 7-hours of sleep and I am good with that.
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what's the update Shanex?
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Old 26th January 2018, 9:11 AM   #15
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what's the update Shanex?
Much better. Thanks for asking.

That was a super post IndigoNight, I really appreciate you took the time to write all that.

I was going through a week of insomnia without finding the reason of it. I did the hot bath thing suggested by divegrl last week and it did help me to chill for the night. Since then Ive been sleeping even more than needed. About 9 hours.

For now I still want to steer clear of any sleeping pills like Ambien or Zopiclone. I took them at some point but do not want to get ''hooked'' on them again.

I did excercice a bit much, no coffee in the afternoon. Very few to no alcohol late in the evening and all is back on track.
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