Scales Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I have recently claimed in some threads that messaging in OLD may be a more important factor than pictures (or anything else for that matter). Well, today I stumbled across this thread from bodybuilding.com and needless to say I'm a little bit shocked. Basically, the premise is that someone took a very good looking picture of a celebrity guy and went to Tinder with it. (Young) girls not only ate it up, but I learned it literally doesn't matter what you say to them. If you look good, pictures online apparently trump all. Look for yourself if you care to. Disclaimer: adult language is used. Trolling using Francisco Lachowski pics on Tinder (14 replies) - Bodybuilding.com Forums 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Eivuwan Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 This makes me sad. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Eivuwan Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 But you know, tinder is a hookup app. Lewd messages are better tolerated in general I would assume. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
somedude81 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Stuff like this has been done many times before. Women are just as shallow as men are. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Eivuwan Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I did a similar test on POF a year or so ago. Similar results. My profile included just about every red flag women complain about, and I sent rude messages, insulting messages, and the dreaded "hi" message. I even misspelled just about everything for fun. Didn't matter. I got a response about 95% of the time regardless. Isn't POF also a hookup site? I want someone to try that on eharmony lol. Link to post Share on other sites
CC12 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Well, today I stumbled across this thread from bodybuilding.com bodybuilding.com No. ....... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kolleamm Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Gee what a surprise, women want a man based on his looks and not how "nice" he is. Tell me something I don't know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lernaean_Hydra Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I'd be more impressed if he got more than a handful of responses. How many did he send to begin with? This is neither new nor shocking news, especially not for Tinder. I mean, you could lewd text a hundred girls on any college campus with NO PHOTO and be likely to get three or four who were, if not totally "DTF", then at least a little curious. IMO this does nothing to prove women are just as shallow or more shallow than men (hardly breaking news either). At most it demonstrates that some younger girls are equally perverted. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 LMFAO! Let the truth set every man free. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I'd be more impressed if he got more than a handful of responses. How many did he send to begin with? This is neither new nor shocking news, especially not for Tinder. I mean, you could lewd text a hundred girls on any college campus with NO PHOTO and be likely to get three or four who were, if not totally "DTF", then at least a little curious. IMO this does nothing to prove women are just as shallow or more shallow than men (hardly breaking news either). At most it demonstrates that some younger girls are equally perverted. I have the same thing done on POF and OKstupid. This is why 90% of men fail at online dating, because the girls are way too superficial. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kolleamm Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 How do I word this....online dating needs to stop permanently for the rest of eternity 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 How do I word this....online dating needs to stop permanently for the rest of eternity There's a lack of knowledge like I said on your thread. Guys just don't know what's going on and girls aren't honest enough to admit it. Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 This thread made my day. I'm going to sleep. Link to post Share on other sites
Lernaean_Hydra Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I have the same thing done on POF and OKstupid. This is why 90% of men fail at online dating, because the girls are way too superficial. Oh, another anti-OLD circlejerk. If you'll excuse me....... 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Priv Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I don't see anything wrong with it. I am not on OLD but surely I would only message those I am attracted too. And for a hookup, this goes double. Superficial maybe. But I don't think you can have a sustainable relationship without mutual attraction. Also, while a sad way to prove a moot point I did laugh. I would totally date the 'calm down Excalibur' girl. Great response... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Scales Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 I don't see anything wrong with it. I am not on OLD but surely I would only message those I am attracted too. And for a hookup, this goes double. Superficial maybe. But I don't think you can have a sustainable relationship without mutual attraction. Also, while a sad way to prove a moot point I did laugh. I would totally date the 'calm down Excalibur' girl. Great response... No doubt she is the most witty and intelligent of the bunch. Tinder is photo based so I guess I wouldn't judge girls too hard for picking guys because they look hot. Let's be honest, actually hot guys(not the "hes hot in my eyes" hot) are rare. They are going to get attention on an app like that. It's not even about the messages being overtly sexual either. It's more about them being so cheesy and overly used. I'll never let anyone ever tell me pick up lines don't work. I'll also never feel creepy about anything ever. I'm sort of convinced of the theory now that there is no creepy. It's just a way for women to segregate unattractive males. It's all about who says it and how they say it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Smilecharmer Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 You mean some girls are shallow? What? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
MissBee Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I'm glad you said "young girls", although it's not only them, but I think it matters how shallow someone is and what they are looking for and generally young girls are going to be a bit shallower and less stringent about their wants. I have never been on Tinder but from what I hear it isn't a match.com or eharmony type place where serious people looking to settle down go but often younger people who seem to be looking to hook up...if that is true, it makes perfect sense that people who are in it for that reason could give a shhyt about the person's message or profile and the Tinder demographic will attract certain kinds of people over say an eharmony or match demographic. I can't see myself joining Tinder and when I was online dating I was looking for something serious and meaningful and had a full profile saying so and only entertained men whose profiles were of substance who messaged me in a way that made me know they had some brain cells. I'm a normal, hot-blooded woman and of course am going to look twice at a hot man...but I'm also a woman with a brain who knows what I want and need and no matter how hot a man was if his profile had nothing on it or things that I didn't like or his message to me was lame, he can't spell or rude, I would IGNORE. So I think it is more a matter of how superficial someone is and how serious they are about dating and what kind of site Tinder is versus a general rule that all women who OLD are that superficial. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
the tank Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Tinder is worst than old. I have a friend who could modelling. one week ago he show me is cellphone screen on tinder , if he sweep only yes , he can get 20 match in 10 minutes . Link to post Share on other sites
BlueIris Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) The format for online dating is visual, so why be upset that people using online dating are most influenced by the visual? So, why don’t you use that dating site that just has audio profiles? Oh, yeah… there isn’t one. But the OKC experiment showed that people of both genders were more willing to engage in conversation when no photos were available at all. Edited August 12, 2014 by BlueIris 2 Link to post Share on other sites
jay1983 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) The format for online dating is visual, so why be upset that people using online dating are most influenced by the visual? So, why don’t you use that dating site that just has audio profiles? Oh, yeah… there isn’t one. But the OKC experiment showed that people of both genders were more willing to engage in conversation when no photos were available at all. Because almost all guys have no success with OLD and when they try and say something about, they're told that it's because of the messages they send. lol Edited August 12, 2014 by jay1983 5 Link to post Share on other sites
the tank Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Because almost all guys have no success with OLD and when they try and say something about, they're told that it's because of the messages they send. lol It's like people in relationship who told : '' It'll happen when you stop looking '' . Then you remember them, they were actively loooking for when they were single. Link to post Share on other sites
insert_name Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 No doubt she is the most witty and intelligent of the bunch. Tinder is photo based so I guess I wouldn't judge girls too hard for picking guys because they look hot. Let's be honest, actually hot guys(not the "hes hot in my eyes" hot) are rare. They are going to get attention on an app like that. It's not even about the messages being overtly sexual either. It's more about them being so cheesy and overly used. I'll never let anyone ever tell me pick up lines don't work. I'll also never feel creepy about anything ever. I'm sort of convinced of the theory now that there is no creepy. It's just a way for women to segregate unattractive males. It's all about who says it and how they say it. Exactly, instead of being honest that they simply didn't like the look of the guy they spin it round on him and try and make him ashamed of his behaviour by calling him a word that has connotations with being a social pariah. Usually from something that was quite innocuous. Nice. That being said, everything is considered creepy these days though, it's got kinda ridiculous and seems to suggest more about the person saying it than the recipient. I think in general there is a lack of accountability about female nature. Men are flawed and we are aware of that, but whenever anything paints female nature in a bad light there is so much effort to either justify or deflect. For me it's like "wow, women tolerate douchebaggery from hot guys- who woulda thunk it!" - its yesterday's news. What bugs me is how women try and deny it. If I had £1 for every time I have seen girls tell guys not to use a 'douchebag' pic of their abs for a profile pic...then OKC reveals that the highest first response percentage went to the guys with their abs out! But I'm sure it was actually the well written opening message that won them over *rolls eyes*. And as another poster said, you then get the flip side where guys are told the reason they got no replies was because they didn't do something right in their message...the only thing they didn't do right was not having a six pack. In fact the 6 pack is almost like the 'Philosopher's Stone' of OLD, turning crap messages into gold since time immemorial. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
BlueIris Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Because almost all guys have no success with OLD and when they try and say something about, they're told that it's because of the messages they send. lol Ah. Well, I don't say that. (Female, 54) And I really can't comment on what happens in the younger set. But then again, I respond and am not very picky about physical attributes, which my dating history would prove. I do have a harsh preliminary cut, though not on bases that many people would assume. But judging from what I read here, there is a pretty significant difference between what younger people want and do and what older people want and do. My 23 year old daughter just doesn't want a relationship but tinders sometimes. Based on a sample of one- her- some people don't want a relationship even if they're on a dating site or app. Her criteria are too bizarre for stats. She will go out with hockey players or knowledgeable hockey fans and that's all (and the bar is freaking high on "knowledgeable.") Otherwise she doesn't care. She deflects all approaches at bars. Looks, money, intelligence, charm, any of that... doesn't matter. Hockey only. It's not unfair or crazy because she doesn't want to get into a relationship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Scales Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Exactly, instead of being honest that they simply didn't like the look of the guy they spin it round on him and try and make him ashamed of his behaviour by calling him a word that has connotations with being a social pariah. Usually from something that was quite innocuous. Nice. That being said, everything is considered creepy these days though, it's got kinda ridiculous and seems to suggest more about the person saying it than the recipient. I think in general there is a lack of accountability about female nature. Men are flawed and we are aware of that, but whenever anything paints female nature in a bad light there is so much effort to either justify or deflect. For me it's like "wow, women tolerate douchebaggery from hot guys- who woulda thunk it!" - its yesterday's news. What bugs me is how women try and deny it. If I had £1 for every time I have seen girls tell guys not to use a 'douchebag' pic of their abs for a profile pic...then OKC reveals that the highest first response percentage went to the guys with their abs out! But I'm sure it was actually the well written opening message that won them over *rolls eyes*. And as another poster said, you then get the flip side where guys are told the reason they got no replies was because they didn't do something right in their message...the only thing they didn't do right was not having a six pack. In fact the 6 pack is almost like the 'Philosopher's Stone' of OLD, turning crap messages into gold since time immemorial. Yeah, the point of this thread was that I am guy who believes messages were strong. Apparently not in many cases. I'm not trying to say all women are shallow. I am trying to say that most of the hot women in their 20's using tinder are. Ah. Well, I don't say that. (Female, 54) And I really can't comment on what happens in the younger set. But then again, I respond and am not very picky about physical attributes, which my dating history would prove. I do have a harsh preliminary cut, though not on bases that many people would assume. But judging from what I read here, there is a pretty significant difference between what younger people want and do and what older people want and do. My 23 year old daughter just doesn't want a relationship but tinders sometimes. Based on a sample of one- her- some people don't want a relationship even if they're on a dating site or app. Her criteria are too bizarre for stats. She will go out with hockey players or knowledgeable hockey fans and that's all (and the bar is freaking high on "knowledgeable.") Otherwise she doesn't care. She deflects all approaches at bars. Looks, money, intelligence, charm, any of that... doesn't matter. Hockey only. It's not unfair or crazy because she doesn't want to get into a relationship. Well your daughter kind of sounds like a badass then. A really picky badass, but a badass none the less. Good for her. Link to post Share on other sites
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