Trialbyfire Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 What is wrong with you? Do you know people's families better than they do? I guess you won't be happy unless we were to all say "Yes, our families are made up of cheaters. All of em." I don't know Galaxy's situation but if it's all he/she was raised with, it's probably what he/she only knows. We are all products of our environment.
Pink Amulet Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 What is with you DEMANDING that people withdraw their opinions and comments? Jeeez. I didn't take offense to C's post at all... Why would you? It wasn't directed at you. I was offended by his completely unfounded accusation that I was only saying this as I was planning on cheating. Completely wrong. And character bashing is not was LS is about... You may care to take note of this. Just stay out of it. You seem like a great chick but I will just let you know you are beginning to piss people off.
Pink Amulet Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 It was not my intention to offend you. Actually, I was giving you an out for what I considered to be a broad and unfortunate generalization. The original question was: "Do you believe that people can remain faithful for forty-fifty years?" to which you responded implying that in every long-term marriage someone's going to cheat. One could surmise that you included yourself in the latter statement. Your family history is "colorful" to say the least. My family experience, as I know it, is primarily the opposite but for one grandfather who cheated upon, left and divorced my grandmother and married his OW. My facetious comment did not imply all people cheated it was only mocking the original question using the fact that most don't last 40 years! Obviously I did not make it clear enough. Of course many many marriages last 40+ years, and many are completely monogomous, but the unforunate truth of the matter is, most don't. I am pleased to hear your family tells a much brighter story and I honestly hope if I ever chose to marry it will be a long and faithful one.
Pink Amulet Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 I don't know Galaxy's situation but if it's all he/she was raised with, it's probably what he/she only knows. We are all products of our environment. Very true. This thread is complete testament to it.
Galaxy Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 On what are you basing this idea? Do you have any statistics to back it up, or is this just your feelings based on what you think? No, it's not called a REALISTIC outlook. It's called a depressing outlook. It sounds to me like you ARE living in a soap-opera, with the idea that everyone who is together for a long period of time is automatically unhappy. That is exactly what a soap-opera portrays. Are you a little unhappy? Well, then get a divorce, that'll fix everything right up. Where on earth did you ever get this idea from? And where does it say that because you've been married a long time you "let yourself go, refrain from sex and ignore your spouse? This is the only thing you've said that I agree with. Living in a fantasy is no way to have a life. I have no idea what your story is, but you sound really really unhappy. I hope things improve for you. Realism can be depressing. It sounds like you've never watched a soap opera in your life? In what soap has a couple been married for 40-50 years? Much less 1? I was referring to the extreme "soul-mate" type of undying love they try to portray. What pissed me off on this thread is that an OPINION was asked by the OP... but right away there are those that couldn't deal with a differing opinion. Which is why after hearing comments made against PINK, I became more aggressive with all the posts I found on here to be quite delusional. Above all, It shows some of you have many insecurity issues and are quite childish. Your bitter patronizing remarks are unneeded and make you sound like a scorned wife. "Where on earth did you ever get this idea from? And where does it say that because you've been married a long time you "let yourself go, refrain from sex and ignore your spouse?" Um, one of those factors are listed on almost all posts written by wh or ww. I wish I could blame it on environment, but nobody in my family that I KNOW OF has cheated.. Does a kid know more about his own family's DEEPEST SECRETS? YEAH RIGHT! Some people find out their father is not even their true father at an old age or that they were a product of an affair or that they were adopted?
Galaxy Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Pink was making a joke that probably portrayed some of her emotions on the matter.. but it was light-hearted and then a bunch of idiots come out of the woodwork... this whole message board seems pretty one-sided and vicious if you ask me.
Trialbyfire Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Galaxy, you've now officially pissed me off. You've attacked my family's integrity without knowing dick about them or myself. How ignorant is that? Not only that but you've cast aspirations on the integrity of your own family by saying "that I know of". It just means to me that you don't know dick about your own family therefore judge others by your own lack of knowledge and are currently displaying your complete ignorance on this site.
Trialbyfire Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 I just reread my post and started to laugh. In reading it I guess you're ignorant about dick. :lmao:
Curmudgeon Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 ...and I honestly hope if I ever chose to marry it will be a long and faithful one. I hope it will too, PA. I know the risk. I thought the first one would be and while it lasted 25 years, ultimately it was not good and she was not faithful. My fondest hope is that I will live long enough to give this one an equal amount of time, and more.
Galaxy Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Trial, exaclty how old are you?? You sound quite naive and young.. Keep the foul mouth down kiddo! If you think you know your family's deep dark secrets, then keep thinking that way cause I find it quite comical and amusing... again you stated your OPINION.. no facts involved. I prefer statistics, not people talking out of their OTHER hole! And as far as I'm concerned that has been the case with you! CIAO!
Galaxy Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Of course I will not be privvy to past immoral behavior by loved ones you DIRTBAG; after all... let's speak to those that were taken as a FOOL throughout their lives as their wife cheated on them left and right and then passes the child along as her husband. Poor kid or course trusts his parents... husband none the wiser... what can you do about it? Many secrets are taken to the grave. Your take on things seem quite FOOLISH to me. I think your IGNORANCE seems to stem in all areas of life! "That I know of".. sorry but I tend to make more scientific observations. I don't base my opinions on mere heresay or stories, but fact. Do you actually think parents flaunt their infidelities in front of their children? This is almost like talking to a brick wall bible thumper.. thanks for the entertainment.
enoughisenough Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Hi all. I agree with the first several posts on this board regarding stats and they don't lie. Infidelity is very prevalant in our society. Remaining loyal didn't even happen decades ago, at least concerning the male spouse. It was either brushed under the carpet by the wife or she just never found out. I think it's great that some think their families are perfectly faithful and have been for years. Truth is though that no one ever know what goes on in another person's personal life. It's basically conjecture without at least a lie detector or some truth serum injected! Ok, maybe that is a step too far. What do I believe? Yeah, I'm sure some people have been faithful throughout many years, but mostly because it went against their religion. I think people are more liberal today and don't really let religion rule their lives like they did in the past, so it might be a little more impossible to find. A lot of these college grads who go onto great careers were always taught ME ME ME throughout their lives. I've seen many go onto cheating. I have really no say in their actions or attitude on the situation. I'm not going to stop them. That's just the way they are. My one married friend has a really sweet wife that does everything for him, but since she gained weight, it's even a greater excuse to get what he "deserves". He has such a great ego because of the money he makes and because he always gets what he wants professionally and now this is like the 4th mistress he's had.
silktricks Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 "Where on earth did you ever get this idea from? And where does it say that because you've been married a long time you "let yourself go, refrain from sex and ignore your spouse?" Um, one of those factors are listed on almost all posts written by wh or ww. but then, that was my point, now wasn't it. that NOT all people are unfaithful, that NOT all people are unhappy, and that NOT all people let themselves go, refrain from sex or ignore their spouses. NOT all marriages HAVE wayward spouses. Some do. But even those marriages where a spouse wanders, it does not mean that if the couple chooses to stay together that they are unhappy for the rest of their lives. Quite often, in fact, those marriages which have undergone trauma are better marriages, happier for both parties than they had been prior to the trauma. You've made the point that often people do not know what goes on behind the closed doors of a marriage, and that is obviously the truth. You, however, portray that YOU for some reason DO know. You KNOW that all marriages are unhappy. You are no more knowing in your depressing outlook on life than is a person who believes the best of life. (Oh yeah, and realism does not equal depression.) I say again, you must be terribly unhappy, and I hope that things improve for you.
Trialbyfire Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Trial, exaclty how old are you?? You sound quite naive and young.. Keep the foul mouth down kiddo! If you think you know your family's deep dark secrets, then keep thinking that way cause I find it quite comical and amusing... again you stated your OPINION.. no facts involved. I prefer statistics, not people talking out of their OTHER hole! And as far as I'm concerned that has been the case with you! CIAO! No, not naive at all. Sometimes, when you're honestly close to people you love, who love you back, you know who they are. Open discussion really helps. You might want to partake of that with your family although not everyone is capable of doing this. It's not easy to completely open up to anyone but with my family, they do and so do I. We're very, very tight and have discussed this issue a number of times due to my more recent experiences. Parts of our discussions surrounded how they managed to resist temptation. They were eye-openers for everyone and made us all even closer, if that's at all possible. They're an amazing bunch who I have great respect and love for. It really sounds like your family are different. I guess you can only relate to what you know.
Galaxy Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Trial... I apologize. It seems your character and openness with you family has really been an eyeopener for me. I'll take back my prior words... I guess I'm on edge because I'm going through some tragic events lately! I just realized that my emotions got the best of me because I have been overmedicated for the past few days... lets just let this feud go to a rest and me as well. Take care anyways!
Trialbyfire Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Done and done Galaxy. We're all here for help and to help. Take care of yourself too.
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