Cecelius Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 You are incorrect on the legal aspect, the state in which we were married has gone both ways on the issue, as it is considered a "conditional gift". And no, I wouldn't take away other gifts. However, considering that she is asking me to pack up the set of dishes that I have here in Washington my apartment and drive them to her when I see her in Pennsylvania... just becasue she wants them, yeah, I would consider taking away this gift. If it was a conditional gift, wasn't the condition satisfied by the marriage ceremony, whereupon it became her personal property? I think it's stronger to say that she gave it back to you with the in your face gesture because (1) she transferred physical possession to you and (2) demonstrated her intent to give you dominion over it.
dropdeadlegs Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 My opinion: You gave your soon to be ex wife a ring to show your love and committment to her in marriage. It was her property from that moment on. Your soon to be ex wife gave you the ring to signify her distain for you, and her complete disregard of your marriage. It was your ring from that moment on. It's yours to do with what you want, just as it was previously hers to do the same. ^This is my opinion. I kept my rings but I never returned them. I do intend to give them to my daughters. I certainly have no use for them, neither is very valuable. I do believe that had she not given it back, it was hers to keep as she had met the conditional obligation of marriage. Another poster asked this question today, so I was looking up info and it seems that most states agree with this. I was looking up info involving breaking an engagement. If that info applies to divorce as well (and I saw no indication that it did) there are some states that will rule in favor of the dumpee, which in this case was you. Some states will consider circumstances, such as cheating, and still award the ring to the dumper in some instances. I also read that if the ring is given back to the donor, and not retrieved within 24 hours, that the donor gets to keep it. But that's all legal aspect pertaining to engagement. I would keep the dishes too since it took this long to ask for them. You do have to make a stand at some point if you have conceded on so much before. Dishes, what BS. I can get a set for less than a sawbuck at WalMart. I wouldn't care if you had the set that was made of Swarovski Crystal and trimmed in liquid gold; you really can't beat Corelle for daily wear and tear.
dgiirl Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 Dishes, what BS. I can get a set for less than a sawbuck at WalMart. I wouldn't care if you had the set that was made of Swarovski Crystal and trimmed in liquid gold; you really can't beat Corelle for daily wear and tear. You wouldnt believe the pettiness of some people. My ex drove 30 minutes out of his way, (he detests driving anywhere if he doesnt have to), for TEA! Already open boxes of TEA?! I think some people find any excuse just to spy on the other. I'm positive that's what my ex was doing when he came over for tea.
Art_Critic Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 You wouldnt believe the pettiness of some people. I sooo agree.. My exw took half the firewood pile and she doesn't even have a fireplace
luvtoto Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 You wouldnt believe the pettiness of some people. Word! After I got engaged, his affair surfaced. He had been boinkin' a *married* coworker for almost a year. After he dumped me to be with her, he had the nerve to ask me for the ring back. He didn't help me pay for any of my moving costs. (we lived together) So, I told him to SUE ME for it!!! Which he did. He whined to the judge, but he was told that it was a gift. I got to keep it. He looked so pissed! Pawned that baby as fast as my little feet could carry me to the store.
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