Storyrider Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 for women money = sex appeal Haha. Some women. Some of us fall in love for other reasons. Money would be a nice bonus. I always said if I had it to do over I would be sure to fall for someone with money the next time. But I don't think it is true.
SadandConfusedWA Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Most men don't like very skinny women. I was suprised to find this. All my life I have been curvy. Double DD chest, largish butt and hips (but defined waist). My weight is within normal range for my height, but it's leaning more towards the upper limit. I have couple of girlfriends who are supermodel skinny. Typical skeletal skin and bones and completly flat everywhere. I thought that if I ever go out with them, I will look like a fat pig and I wouldn't have a chance, all men will just want them. Well suprise, suprise, 9 out of 10 men that approach our group just kind of not notice them, go straight to me and ask if they can talk to me.
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 It is funny you should mention this, Lindya, because I remember that episode well, and it bugged me! I mean it was well done, and interesting, but flawed. I think in terms of interests, temperment and intellect, birds of a feather flock together. And I also think people at a similar level of attractiveness generally flock together. But it is much more complicated than fat goes with fat, big nose goes with big nose, and short goes with short, etc. Life is just more wacky and variable than that. I thought Ally came across as shallow. Not because she didn't want to get serious with him, but because she wouldn't even consider dating him. Plus they set him up as a straw man who was easy to knock down because they made him so huge, rather than just your average fat guy. I completely agree with that. I hope you (and others) know that my "fat people should be with fat people" comment was really said tongue in cheek. But it DOES speak to, to a certain extent, you're "birds of a feather flock together" comment, no? So it's not completely off base. Sad and confused...maybe you're right that "most" men don't want the super skinny model thin types (like me)...but then again, it never bothered me since I've never been one to be into "most" men...I've only been involved with a very select few and they seemed to appreciate (as does my husband now) my body type. So see? There's room for all of us. As for the ridiculous comments about women wanting a bank account and that's what they find sexy...well, yeah that IS sexy but if there's nothing else about him that is, then sorry, it never cut the mustard with me. I was never, ever willing to compromise. I had to have it ALL! And guess what? I got it too.
lindya Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 for women money = sex appeal That's a little like a woman saying that men are only interested in women who have blonde hair and fake boobs. It's tempting to believe these things because it depersonalises that whole horrible process of being rejected. "She didn't reject me, she rejected my bank account" "he didn't reject me he just chose something artificial in preference to something real." I thought Ally came across as shallow. Not because she didn't want to get serious with him, but because she wouldn't even consider dating him. I saw that episode as using Ally McBeal as a vehicle to make a point. Traditionally, the media has tended to focus on it (by it I mean being rejected for not being perceived as sufficiently attractive, physically) happening to women rather than to men - on the assumption, perhaps, that women rely more heavily on their looks and therefore suffer more when their looks are deemed inadequate. In that episode, I think we were encouraged to empathise with a man who was being rejected for those reasons (ie physical flaws) and who was pained by it. Perhaps such media portrayals seek to instil a bit more empathy and sensitivity in people, but I don't think they work on anyone other than those who are already empathic...and probably just end up fuelling the very behaviour they seek to challenge.
Porn_Guy Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 That's a little like a woman saying that men are only interested in women who have blonde hair and fake boobs. It's tempting to believe these things because it depersonalises that whole horrible process of being rejected. "She didn't reject me, she rejected my bank account" "he didn't reject me he just chose something artificial in preference to something real." . the majority of men would go for the trophy wife IF they could get one...the majority of women would go for the rich & powerful man IF they could get one. what makes the trophy wife and rich man so attractive is that there are relatively few of them....and the few that do exist tend to hang out in the same circles.
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I think most men want more than just a "trophy wife" as we usually think of them. My husband wouldn't have settled for just a pretty face you know? HINT: Think ABOVE the neck. Just as I would never have settled for just a bank account.
lindya Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 the majority of men would go for the trophy wife IF they could get one...the majority of women would go for the rich & powerful man IF they could get one. what makes the trophy wife and rich man so attractive is that there are relatively few of them....and the few that do exist tend to hang out in the same circles. Well - if that is your vision of happiness and success in life, one can only hope you have (or at some point obtain) sufficient wealth to attract a trophy partner.
Porn_Guy Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Well - if that is your vision of happiness and success in life, one can only hope you have (or at some point obtain) sufficient wealth to attract a trophy partner. ha ha ha why u have emma peel in your avatar? i rest my case
lindya Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 ha ha ha why u have emma peel in your avatar? i rest my case I like her style. To me she's a positive representation of Britishness and feminism, and I certainly wouldn't imagine her ever settling for being Mr Peel's trophy wife. Appeal dismissed.
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Well - if that is your vision of happiness and success in life, one can only hope you have (or at some point obtain) sufficient wealth to attract a trophy partner. Yes, and then he'll realize that most women won't think that the money is enough for him to be able to keep them.
pricillia Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 the majority of men would go for the trophy wife IF they could get one...the majority of women would go for the rich & powerful man IF they could get one. what makes the trophy wife and rich man so attractive is that there are relatively few of them....and the few that do exist tend to hang out in the same circles. Most women do not want a rich man... come on...
magichands Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 That reminds me of an episode of Ally McBeal. Does anyone remember it? A severely overweight lawyer fell for Ally and started making noises Just be grateful that he didn't have a heart attack. Doggie style might be the position of choice, here.
magichands Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Just as I would never have settled for just a bank account. I agree. I want a linked MasterCard. Can't do nothing with a bank account these days. Try booking a hotel room with a fistful of Jacksons.
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Most women do not want a rich man... come on... Oh, god that cracked me up, P...sorry! But come ON! Most women WOULD but only IF they were really the "whole package." That's what I've been saying. A big bank account alone would never cut it for MOST women in my opinion..no way, no how. Most of us want love FIRST. But if we loved two men equally and one had money and the other one was poor...come ON. Which would YOU choose?
magichands Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 But if we loved two men equally Never happens.
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Never happens. Of course you're absolutely right but does that make my argument any less valid? It was a hypothetical point.
pricillia Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Oh, god that cracked me up, P...sorry! But come ON! Most women WOULD but only IF they were really the "whole package." That's what I've been saying. A big bank account alone would never cut it for MOST women in my opinion..no way, no how. Most of us want love FIRST. But if we loved two men equally and one had money and the other was poor...come ON. Which would YOU choose? That is a good question, but I would never love two men equally honestly when I am with someone I am committed soley to that person, I would like to be protected and loved, by a good man, I want love first... eh not like it will happen anyway. Ok there is Overweight and then there is just down right unattractive... I would think that most men even Porn Guy would know this, and see if a woman has sex apeal even if she has a few extra pounds, thick even...
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I agree. I want a linked MasterCard. Can't do nothing with a bank account these days. Try booking a hotel room with a fistful of Jacksons. Ha, ha very funny Pachy but I think you know what I meant. That's not exactly what I had in mind but you know...that wouldn't hurt a guy's cause either.
Porn_Guy Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Ok there is Overweight and then there is just down right unattractive... I would think that most men even Porn Guy would know this, and see if a woman has sex apeal even if she has a few extra pounds, thick even... sure, no problem with extra 20 or 30 lbs....more to love. but when she has her own postal code or her own gravity flux then there is problem
pricillia Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 sure, no problem with extra 20 or 30 lbs....more to love. but when she has her own postal code or her own gravity flux then there is problem Gravity Flux...OH MY Well I am curvy and love it, and sex appeal to boot... I would never let a good looking man bed me just because he was a good looking man...maybe I am my own breed go ahead make fun
Touche Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Gravity Flux...OH MY Well I am curvy and love it, and sex appeal to boot... I would never let a good looking man bed me just because he was a good looking man...maybe I am my own breed go ahead make fun No, you're not your "own breed" P...some of us need more than a bank account or just looks. Like I said, I wanted it all and I got it. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
Porn_Guy Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Gravity Flux...OH MY sure...i saw a morbidly obese women the other day, she was so big her husband was in orbit around her.
magichands Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Of course you're absolutely right but does that make my argument any less valid? It was a hypothetical point. Sh*t. I was expecting an argument. Well, this subjective thing called love is a holistic assessment, and not a reductionistic one. I understand that you are trying to make a hypothetical point, but I don't think it is valid. What I think you're saying is that love is necessary, but not sufficient. (Notwithstanding, there is a f*ckload of people in this world that would marry for a meal ticket. Survival of the fattest.)
magichands Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 I would never let a good looking man bed me We have something in common. No butts about that.
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