Dadaal Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Hello all members I read many articles on news papers about rape and some of them were horrific. I always ask myself what compels/drives men to rape!! I'd like to find out your personal opinions about the factors that drives men to rape?
amaysngrace Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 They are angry women haters. And sociopaths too. Or maybe they're just extremely horny and can't control their impulses. I have no clue.
CaliGuy Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Couldn't tell you. Never even thought about it. Ever. What fun is sex if she doesn't want it?
amaysngrace Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 What fun is sex if she doesn't want it? I think you'd have to be a rapist to understand the answer behind that question.
KittenMoon Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 This is a cheerful thread.... There really is no ONE motivation behind rape. It could be anything from a need to control to revenge to Klondike bars. The important thing (obviously) is to prevent it as much as possible.
blind_otter Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 power and control. Rape is not and never will be about sex or sexuality.
TheDC Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Well we can say this that rape is not a cultural thing. Since it crosses so many cultures and is practically endemic that there is more at work that simple upbringing or culture. I suspect that there is a strong basis in biology. Rape is not confined to humans. Rape can also be found in the other ape families (of which we are a part), chimpanzees and orangutans also practise rape. However, what is not known is if the same pressures and tactics are at work in all of these species and populations.
JamesM Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 power and control. Rape is not and never will be about sex or sexuality. I agree with the first statement but disagree with the second. I know that the "experts" say that sex does not enter into the picture, but a man needs to be turned on if he expects to perform. If he is not sexually excited, he cannot perform intercourse. Power and control turns many men on. For them they feel sexually excited because they have the woman under control. When the woman screams, whimpers, etc., the rapist feels that he is truly "a man." Face it....if a rapist was not turned on, he could not perform. So while it is true that sexuality as normally defined is not part of rape, sex as defined by a rapist must be part of rape.
ilmw Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 I agree with the first statement but disagree with the second. I know that the "experts" say that sex does not enter into the picture, but a man needs to be turned on if he expects to perform. If he is not sexually excited, he cannot perform intercourse. Power and control turns many men on. For them they feel sexually excited because they have the woman under control. When the woman screams, whimpers, etc., the rapist feels that he is truly "a man." Face it....if a rapist was not turned on, he could not perform. So while it is true that sexuality as normally defined is not part of rape, sex as defined by a rapist must be part of rape. Yup.. its the power and control over the victim that is the turn on... the violation is the end result... (getting off) goes for male victims as well.
Author Dadaal Posted January 25, 2007 Author Posted January 25, 2007 [sIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Rape is the act of making someone partake involuntarily in sexual acts through violence, force, threat of injury, other duress, or where the victim is unable to decline due to the effects of drugs or alcohol. It is generally considered one of the most serious sex crimes.[/FONT][/sIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] [/sIZE][/FONT] [sIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]There is no universally accepted distinction between rape and other forms of sexual assault. The criminal laws of some jurisdictions explicitly consider all kinds of sexual activity equivalent to reproductive intercourse, whereas others use the term only in the case of penile-vaginal or vaginal-penile penetration. Some even further restrict rape to cases where a woman is forced by a man, however, it is also rape when men are forced into a sexual act by women or other men. Forcible or non-consensual sex acts, such as forced fellatio or cunnilingus, which do not meet the criterion for rape in a jurisdiction are often grouped in the umbrella term sexual assault.[/FONT][/sIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] The main question here is - what are the factors? not to describe the rape itself.[/sIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][sIZE=3] [/sIZE][/FONT]
JamesM Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Another big factor is pornography. There is actually a category of porn that is called rape fantasy. There are two kinds of films. In one "scenario," the woman is attacked by one or more men. Initially she screams, fights back, and appears distressed. However, as the men "work their magic," she begins to enjoy it. By the end of the scene, she is actually reciprocating. Trust me...they make this kind of film for a reason....it turns men on. Unfortunately, since the woman begins to enjoy sex, it gives even the "normal" man the idea that some women actually enjoy and have a rape fantasy. There is also a a darker side to porn. In these kind of "rape fantasies," the woman never enjoys it, but always screams or cries. Again, this turns on some men, so they make these films. What this creates is the false idea that women enjoy sex even if they say no. Some men unfortunately, translate this to mean that if they actually rape a woman, she secretly enjoys it. The fact that she acts like she doesn't means nothing, because he has seen with his own eyes films where she does like it. Rape is much more than power, control and hate. I believe that perverted sex is also a major factor.
lindya Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Here's a piece that looks at standard rapist motivational typologies (ie reasons underpinning the rapist's behaviour) used in crime investigators. http://www.corpus-delicti.com/typologies.html It argues that rigid adherence to one typology is a common investigative flaw, as it tends to examine the offender's motivation at a particular moment, in a particular setting, with a particular victim. which can lead to inflexible thinking and faulty logic in developing the unknown offender's profile. It gives the example of a rape where the victim is alternately tortured and "nurtured" by the rapist, and cites the relevance of at least two different typologies to such a scenario: 1. Power reassurance (through which, for example, the rapist might attempt to convince himself that the victim is consenting) 2. Sadism (self explanatory). Though maybe it could be argued, in such an example, that the "nurturing" phases of the rape are employed deliberately, (from sadism rather than from any desire for reassurance), to prevent the victim from shutting down psychologically from what's going on.
blind_otter Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 There should be a warning on this thread for rape victims to not read this because this thread is full of horrible triggers. I'm just saying. It's been 8 years since I was raped and now I think I have to go have a moment. WTF is the point of this thread, anyway?
Author Dadaal Posted January 25, 2007 Author Posted January 25, 2007 Perverted sex, pornography, wild sex drive could be a major factor for men to get involved in a rape activity. What about women in provocative clothes? what about men who perpetrate the act while drunk?
lindya Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 There should be a warning on this thread for rape victims to not read this because this thread is full of horrible triggers. I'm just saying. It's been 8 years since I was raped and now I think I have to go have a moment. WTF is the point of this thread, anyway? I sympathise with your feelings about this, Otter. I think when it comes to the worst, most destructive kinds of human behaviour, people will always be driven to look for explanations. On the other hand, there's always a risk - with threads like this - that they'll be hijacked by gender "warriors" who are only interested in stirring up anger and painful emotions, and attributing blame. Not, I hasted to add, that I've seen any such posts in this thread.
JamesM Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 There should be a warning on this thread for rape victims to not read this because this thread is full of horrible triggers. I'm just saying. It's been 8 years since I was raped and now I think I have to go have a moment. WTF is the point of this thread, anyway? Blind otter I apologize if anything I said was insensitive. Having never experienced rape to me or someone close, it did not occur to me that this may actually bring back bad memories. I agree....what is the point of this thread? I think Dadaal simply wanted a discussion about the motives of rape. Or he may have had an unknown motive related to a personal incident. However, he also googled info on the web and pasted it here. It may be better if he continues his research silently for the sake of those who may need a moment after reading this. Having said that, unfortunately, there are many threads here on LS that trigger emotions in people that are unexpected. If someone has been molested by a parent, then reading a similar story of someone else may be damaging to the emotions. Sadly enough, we cannot eliminate any thread that we think may be emotionally offensive, because then many people who need feedback or help may never receive it.
hopelessly_naive Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 There should be a warning on this thread for rape victims to not read this because this thread is full of horrible triggers. I'm just saying. It's been 8 years since I was raped and now I think I have to go have a moment. WTF is the point of this thread, anyway? Either morbid curiosity or an attempt to apply logic to something so disturbing no sane person can explain. There's no generic answer to this question.
Author Dadaal Posted January 25, 2007 Author Posted January 25, 2007 I actually wanted to understand the motives of rape and I didn't intend to bring back bad memories to individuals. I personally never experienced rape or anything like that but wanted to share a simple discussion about the subject. For the respect of other, Iam wrapping up my discussion of the subject.
blind_otter Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Don't wrap it up on my account. Just make sure to put a warning in the thread title next time.
Road Rage Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 If the word rape isn`t a warning, I don`t know what the hell would be!
Curmudgeon Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Rage, power and control. Those are the usual reasons. It has far less to do with sex.
Porn_Guy Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I'd like to find out your personal opinions about the factors that drives men to rape? well, basically, its a power thing...most men are capable of it given the proper circumstances.
Pyro Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Hello all members I read many articles on news papers about rape and some of them were horrific. I always ask myself what compels/drives men to rape!! I'd like to find out your personal opinions about the factors that drives men to rape? What compels men to rape: physical strength, rage, anger, mental in the head, lack of respect for women, morals, and for the law
borneveryday Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Perverted sex, pornography, wild sex drive could be a major factor for men to get involved in a rape activity. What about women in provocative clothes? what about men who perpetrate the act while drunk? Well, what ABOUT women in provocative clothes?? Provocative is subjective anyway. If he's drunk that is even worse. If you attack women when you get drunk you have a responsibility not to drink. Doesn't matter how you look at it - people are responsible for their own behaviour, their own responses to external stimuli (even a woman in a low cut top!!!). There ISn't a reasonable excuse for rape. Ever. By definition.
borneveryday Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 well, basically, its a power thing...most men are capable of it given the proper circumstances. That's a bit of a sweeping statement mr porn! lol. And what would those 'proper circumstances' be? I think making sweeping generalizatons about men is what some men do when they want to just excuse behaviour by 'maleness' alone and not accept personal responsibility.
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