Pyro Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I don't think that its a crime for the woman to propose in the relationship, but to each their own I guess.
Quinch Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I don't see any reason why women shouldn't propose if they want to. This is the 21st century after all. Only problem might be that he might get the wrong idea when she goes down on one knee
Porn_Guy Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I don't see any reason why women shouldn't propose if they want to. oh yeah then maybe men should start having babies and cooking and cleaning too.
magichands Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I don't see any reason why women shouldn't propose if they want to. This is the 21st century after all. Only problem might be that he might get the wrong idea when she goes down on one knee :lmao: But the opposite could apply, it's just more difficult to achieve through a zipper. Anyway, why should women have all the fun of being proposed to? Equality rocks.
Art_Critic Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 oh yeah then maybe men should start having babies and cooking and cleaning too. Tsk Tsk Tsk.. such an OLD fashioned outlook.. PG... Men do cook and clean today.. of course they can't have babies but men are there to care of them today in greater numbers than there used to be.. Like I said.. my ex proposed to me.. but she was a business woman with loads of self confidence and she was fairly assertive.. Now maybe she was proposing to hook me and not let me get away.. who knows why she did it.. I liked it and did marry her.. ( even id I also divorced her 5 years later ).
magichands Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 but I have heard of it going both ways. It just makes you want to scream.
Porn_Guy Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 Like I said.. my ex proposed to me.. but she was a business woman with loads of self confidence and she was fairly assertive.. Now maybe she was proposing to hook me and not let me get away.. who knows why she did it.. I liked it and did marry her.. ( even id I also divorced her 5 years later ). I rest my case...
Art_Critic Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I rest my case... You have a case ?? A case of what ?? The Herp ??
magichands Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 You have a case ?? A case of what ?? The Herp ?? Porn videos? I think he's practicing for the law school entrance exam.
Porn_Guy Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 You have a case ?? A case of what ?? The Herp ?? rules and traditions that have stood the test of time exist for very good reasons
magichands Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 rules and traditions that have stood the test of time exist for very good reasons Perpetual ignorance.
milvushina Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 rules and traditions that have stood the test of time exist for very good reasons Sometimes yes, sometimes they have nothing of substance to back them up and are just relics of out-dated ways of thinking. Does anyone propose nowadays without discussing marriage at all first? It seems like the actual proposal is just an official asking of the question - why does it matter who is the one to ask it? Does anyone against women proposing have a solid reason why it's better for the man to ask, besides the fact that they're "supposed" to?
norajane Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 If you KNOW for sure the answer will be yes - because you've already discussed it - then I think it's ok for a woman to propose. I think, though, women who consider proposing are often trying to get their man to commit because they're tired of waiting for him to get off his ass and do it. I wouldn't do it myself because I want the romance of being asked. Not that my SO ever will, dammit.
magichands Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I wouldn't do it myself because I want the romance of being asked. That's just selfish. You think that women are the only ones that crave romance? Actually, you may be right. Romance has "man" in it for a reason. Now it all makes sense.
milvushina Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I think, though, women who consider proposing are often trying to get their man to commit because they're tired of waiting for him to get off his ass and do it. Oh yeah...I forgot that we are supposed to be chomping at the bit to get married. It would be unladylike to ask ourselves because we just can't stand waiting... Seriously though, you do have a point besides "a woman proposing is like a man cooking and cleaning." You are saying a proposal shouldn't come out of impatience. I totally agree. And that it is more often the woman in the situation who will be the impatient one. I'm sure most people here would agree with that too.
IpAncA Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 It just makes you want to scream. Well what are you suppost to do if the guy is just to shy to ask? Personally I always seen it as the guys job and never the girls job. If they did ask then I would almost have to wonder why and not in a good way.
norajane Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 Oh yeah...I forgot that we are supposed to be chomping at the bit to get married. It would be unladylike to ask ourselves because we just can't stand waiting... Seriously though, you do have a point besides "a woman proposing is like a man cooking and cleaning." You are saying a proposal shouldn't come out of impatience. I totally agree. And that it is more often the woman in the situation who will be the impatient one. I'm sure most people here would agree with that too. I would wonder WHY he's not asking. There's always a reason when they don't ask. And that would be enough to put me off from marrying him - who wants to marry a guy who is hesitant about asking?
magichands Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 Personally I always seen it as the guys job and never the girls job. If they did ask then I would almost have to wonder why and not in a good way. Because she loves you??!! And wants to spend the rest of her life with you??!! Hang on... ewww! You're so right, only wenches would pledge that sort of commitment. And I'm not signing the pre-nup. If she wants to marry me, then she should trust that it's not just for the money. (Hmmm... screw the ring... a Wii would make a great engagement gift.)
milvushina Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 I just don't agree that a woman who proposes is a woman who is desperate. magichands, you are so funny.. but you are smart too. If you buy him a shiny new video game console, how can he say no??
IpAncA Posted January 12, 2007 Posted January 12, 2007 Because she loves you??!! And wants to spend the rest of her life with you??!! Hang on... ewww! You're so right, only wenches would pledge that sort of commitment. Your taking that the wrong way. I'm sure probably does love him. I happend to see it more as the man job then the womens. And I'm not signing the pre-nup. If she wants to marry me, then she should trust that it's not just for the money. (Hmmm... screw the ring... a Wii would make a great engagement gift.) I don't know. Pre-nups are starting to seem like a good idea now days. Many more divorces are occuring.
magichands Posted January 13, 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 I don't know. Pre-nups are starting to seem like a good idea now days. Many more divorces are occuring. OK. So this is my take. If you're going to get married, get married. If you need a pre-nup, then don't get married!
Porn_Guy Posted January 13, 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 Oh yeah...I forgot that we are supposed to be chomping at the bit to get married. It would be unladylike to ask ourselves because we just can't stand waiting... Marriage revolves around women and is a concept that benefits women the most. I think many men would prefer just to stay single, esp the ones who've already experienced married life. I've seen so many single childless women in their late 30s and early 40s that are just DYING to find a husband, they run around like chickens with their heads cut off....its TOO funny. I would wonder WHY he's not asking. There's always a reason when they don't ask. And that would be enough to put me off from marrying him - who wants to marry a guy who is hesitant about asking? basically its the females' job to ask the dude for a committed relationship and exclusivity....that is her seal of approval. Then, after some time, if so inclined the man is supposed to ask her for marriage, thats both of theirs seal of approval. I just don't agree that a woman who proposes is a woman who is desperate. sure she is...
Pyro Posted January 13, 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 Sometimes yes, sometimes they have nothing of substance to back them up and are just relics of out-dated ways of thinking. Does anyone propose nowadays without discussing marriage at all first? It seems like the actual proposal is just an official asking of the question - why does it matter who is the one to ask it? Does anyone against women proposing have a solid reason why it's better for the man to ask, besides the fact that they're "supposed" to? Very good post mil.
IpAncA Posted January 13, 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 OK. So this is my take. If you're going to get married, get married. If you need a pre-nup, then don't get married! Yes I would agree and I didn't sign one myself but if we did get a divorce I would be fine financially regardless of the 50/50 thing.
magichands Posted January 13, 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 Yes I would agree and I didn't sign one myself but if we did get a divorce I would be fine financially regardless of the 50/50 thing. The main contingency is being able to afford one of those cutting-edge vibrators.
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