Gunny376 Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Its a hard term describe. It means a lot of "different" things to different people ~ both men and women. I can only describe what it means to me? It means ~ "NO MORE!" It means ~ "I WILL BE RESPECTED!" It means ~ "I WILL STAND THIS WALL, I WILL NOT CROSS THIS LINE! AND BY GOD YOU WILL NOT CROSS THIS LINE ~ SO HELP ME GOD! It means "I will not tolerate, nor stand for being dis-RESPECTED! It means: I will keep MY Honor clean! It means: I will cherish, honor, and protect my integrity! It means: I will seek to identify my weaknesses and overcome them! It means: I will seek to do the right thing in all things! It means: I will Stand for what is "righteous!" It means: I will be a part of something "greater" than myself!
CaliGuy Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Semper Fi, Gunny. I agree with your sentiments.
Trialbyfire Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Lovin' it!! Integrity, honour and respect. Lost arts.
Guest Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 totally right. everything stated is bang on. i just learned how to do all of those things just this year - and its amazing the benefits that flow from actually doing instead of just saying. it removes shame, and guilt, and toxic denial, it stops you from lying and fills you with self-respect. it makes u stand tall and decisive and gives you the strength to do what u say and empowers your mind and body like never before. it clears up the fog that love sometimes does, it makes u grow up and see life in a new way. it keeps u calm and balanced and stomps on past anger, and allows you to see triggers and stop past behaviour before they occur and after just a few times of that you notice you have reconditioned yer mind - when once u got angry and upset - now it is mild frustration and resolve. where once u internalized and had a narrow focus, now it bounces off your armour and you see the big picture clearly. it makes u look at past behaviours and understand them, and communicate them honestly, and even laugh at how you once were. it shows you that what you were fighting for, be it a woman or yourself, is noble and earnest no matter what anyone says. and you can keep fighting for something or someone all day, even though they might see the reason and might try to hurt u. and u can decide for yourself how long u continue and how you will bow out with grace and tenderness. you will show them that its ok to want to better another as well as yourself, and then leave once that has been done without any regret. you can look at an exlove and know they with another, that they have been naked and allowed another to touch what was once given by her and promised only to you - and you will not feel hurt as u did in the past, and it will last only moments instead of months, and you will use that feeling constructively and never strike out against another because your emotions are only yours and belong with just you. manning up is what my exgf taught me to do, amoung the zillion other great ways i am now a MAN. she is on the same journey and is doing it the same way i did, with support that is subtle, and decisions that are her own. this is the respect we give each other. it is rare and a gift.
Author Gunny376 Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 It means, you will not harm this person, (this child, this woman, this weakling, this sick person, this,...............) in my presence! It means I will stand between you and those less fortunate! It means its "open season" on those that would prey on my daughter, my son, my grandson, my ex-wife as a woman, as a person, the Mother of and Grandmother of my children and grandchildren! FEAR God! I won't fear you! I would NEVER take my XW back, but God pity the fool that would harm a hair upon the mother of my children, and my Grandson! You're just a "Dead Man" walking! My son, my daughter, my grandson break the law? They must suffer the punisehment! You break the law against them? Fear not the law? FEAR ME!
Author Gunny376 Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 Ooooooorah! "Ooooooorah" That's the word to describe it! Do? Or DIE! Either get busy living, or get busy dying! The time to get real about your life Is right here. and NOW!
ilmw Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 "Ooooooorah" That's the word to describe it! Do? Or DIE! Either get busy living, or get busy dying! The time to get real about your life Is right here. and NOW! Gunny your sounding rather fired up.. Btw... its posts like these that gives us a not so subtle reminder... to wake the hell up... stand on your feet.. and be a real mad/woman.. Thx for everything in 2006..
mum2three Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 I am so glad you answered. I am trying so hard to be strong. Can you guys (ilmw, dad of 3, or anyone else) give me your point of view on leaving the home situation and being away from your kids? I know it is not what you want. But how do you handle it day to day? Did you ever think that you should take the kids or do joint? I am curious on a guys point of view. Thanks all for listening.
dgiirl Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 it means : taking full responsibility for your life and happiness and making the changes necessary to make your life the best life you can possibly make it. Our situation might not be one that we'd choose, but we can still make the best of it. We might not have made the decision, but we can make the decision RIGHT.
Lights Posted December 29, 2006 Posted December 29, 2006 Its a hard term describe. It means a lot of "different" things to different people ~ both men and women. I can only describe what it means to me? It means ~ "NO MORE!" It means ~ "I WILL BE RESPECTED!" It means ~ "I WILL STAND THIS WALL, I WILL NOT CROSS THIS LINE! AND BY GOD YOU WILL NOT CROSS THIS LINE ~ SO HELP ME GOD! It means "I will not tolerate, nor stand for being dis-RESPECTED! This is quite interesting. Does choosing to be respected also work in situations where the preponderance of individuals and factions in one's range of operations do not choose to respect you? What measures of deterrence and/or destruction do you have ready and/or utilize to deter or eliminate those who choose to cross a given line in contravention of your claim?
Author Gunny376 Posted December 29, 2006 Author Posted December 29, 2006 This is quite interesting. Does choosing to be respected also work in situations where the preponderance of individuals and factions in one's range of operations do not choose to respect you? What measures of deterrence and/or destruction do you have ready and/or utilize to deter or eliminate those who choose to cross a given line in contravention of your claim? Ahhhh! A "pencial-pointy-head" intellectual type?! No! It is ture, you cannot make a person respect you! But, By God, you can make them RESPECT the Hell out of a Hickory ax handle,baseball bat, or Colt .45 Its just a question of how much you're willing to up the ante AND suffer the conquenses of your actions!
Guest Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 Dad?!? Is that you?!? No, seriously, I wish there were more commonsense "Leadership Figures" like yourself speaking up in this day and time. The world wouldn't be in the politically correct state of nonsense it is today. Amen to all you have to say, I salute you!!!
Guest Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 Ahhhh! A "pencial-pointy-head" intellectual type?! No! It is ture, you cannot make a person respect you! But, By God, you can make them RESPECT the Hell out of a Hickory ax handle,baseball bat, or Colt .45 Its just a question of how much you're willing to up the ante AND suffer the conquenses of your actions! Sigh. Boring. Not impressive. And, no, nobody respects a thug with or without a weapon. Ramboism is the resort of the witless. You can walk around with a chip on your shoulder ready to beat the tar out of anybody and everybody you happen to think 'done wrong' but that just brands you as no better than a gang member. The man who most deserves respect feels no need to act like a chest-thumping ape. Where I live, people who behave with that kind of macho bravado posturing are regarded as kind of quaint but mostly foolish. We're supposed to be civilized now. Some of us don't hark back fondly to the days where men carried clubs.
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