Lostgurl Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Now this has to be about the rudest thing that has ever been done to me. I mean I was bored too, it was in the middle of the week anyway. Just to up and leave like that? That's just wrong. No wonder so many women get beat on, this one deserves it. It doesn't matter if she spit in your face and cursed high hell at you. No woman ever deserves to be beaten.
burning 4 revenge Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Now, one would think a woman would be smart enough to REALIZE who has future potential. So the loser guy has to work less? No wonder I am single. BTW, this girl even said the one guy she is dating never has any money and she is tired of paying for him....... but I am not good enough for some reason.he's probably very good looking or has a huge wang men need to stop expecting women to be less shallow than they are. women are just as shallow and far more you want my advice? date an ugly chick
alphamale Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 date an ugly chick in the dark all girls feel the same
Touche Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 he's probably very good looking or has a huge wang men need to stop expecting women to be less shallow than they are. women are just as shallow and far more you want my advice? date an ugly chick Wasn't there a song about that? Something about if you want to be happy get an ugly woman? Ok, to the OP. There's more here to this. If you think MOST women are like this then I would have to say the problem is with YOU. You're either exceptionally bad at spotting these types or you're putting out such bad vibes that women are reacting negatively to you. I do sense an attitude coming from you. You might want to work on that. Also, I didn't get the whole going from bar to bar with this girl. Isn't the point of a first date to get to know the other person? Didn't you even try to have a conversation with her? Yeah, there's way more to this.
insomnie Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Check out these ads... http://losangeles.craigslist.org/w4m/?displayMode=printFriendly Some are truly horrific. Online dating... what else can I say? This creeped me out: I do have a 24 year old son that would be a part of the relationship, and he would love for me to date someone who has kids since he hates being an only child, and seems to connect well with younger children.
nicki Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Are those ads on Craigslist for real? They are unbelievable...and sad! From what I read, this is the kind of ad I should compose to hook a man: "Hi. I'm a gorgeous, fit 22 year old with red hair who wants a man to dominate me. I also enjoy being submissive and have too many sexual fetishes to mention. I have 5 children with different fathers, but none of the children live with me, so I'm totally free from obligations....except to serve you, of course. You must be rich, be over 6 feet, have no belly and have a huge penis. Send a photo of your penis, and I'll send you a photo of mine, oops, I mean of me." Wow, no wonder I've met every guy I've dated in real life. The poster is right who said to live your life and see who you meet. I met one boyfriend in a grocery store. One in a gym class. One at night school. The trick is to be friendly and open to everyone....and to keep your eyes open to see what a person is really about. Everybody Chill, the girl you met was a loser, and not worth your time or energy. She did you a favor by leaving. You would have rejected her anyway based on her insanity. But, I know how you feel. I've had guys do the same thing. I always just think they are wanting a hook-up anyway....and that's not what I want, so thanks for saving me the trouble of walking away myself. New year, new opportunities. Cheers!
Walk Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 No offense, but I didn't hear any description of how you tried to have a conversation with her. Didn't seem to try to show her you were interested in finding out who she was. Ie: quesitons about her, taking the "dead" clubs as an opportunity to actually talk with her. Discussing each others views, thoughts, ideas. You seemed immediately "put off" by the fact that she was dating other men, which is fine... but you might as well have called an end to the evening at that point. Instead of trying to find something that would interest both of you, you kept hammering away at a dead horse. Next club, next club, next club. You knew it was a weeknight. Chances were all the clubs would be dead. Did you just not want to tlak to the girl anymore? Was she that boring to you? Were you just keeping up the pretense of the date in hopes that you'd get laid at the end? I'm also not understanding the difference between meeting a girl at a club, and having a first date at the club. You might as well have met her "at the club" for the first time. It's no different. It's not as if you knew her somewhat prior to trying the club scene. You got her number, took her to the club. You didn't take her there to talk, since most are so loud you have to scream in their ear to be heard.. so why did you take her there? From my view point, you were an ass, she was an ass. You both had a piss poor date. You won't look at your own actions to figure out how to change the outcome, but you're incredibly quick to judge her harshly. If you really feel she deserves to be beat, then beat the hell out of yourself too. You're half to blame for the crap ass date you had.
SmoochieFace Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 Oh, please give me another cliche! Stop looking? Have you ever found anything worth having without some effort? Such another silly cliche. So what if i give off a vibe that I want to find someone? If that's so bad then screw all women. Where did I say to 'stop looking' in my post?
SmoochieFace Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 In reality, being a nice guy or a jerk has nothing to do with initial attraction. What is important are the qualities that trigger romantic/sexual feelings in women. A man must have one of three things going for him: 1) Looks 2) Charisma 3) Money If he's strong in any one of the areas, he can be weak in the others and still do OK. If he's very strong in two of the areas, he can be complely lacking in the third and lots of women will still go after him. If he's strong in all three, he'll only sleep along when he wants to. If he's weak in all three, he'll have a very rough time in dating. Oh, stop reading the 'seduction sites' already! There are PLENTY of guys who aren't 'strong' in all those areas you cited who also are in happy fulfilling relationships. Now... if you are only interested in shallow model-type cover-girl 'chicks' then perhaps those three things will matter much more. Want my candid opinion? I think you are an 'Average Joe' who only wants 'hot' women and you're using silly excuses (like coming up with garbage you cited) for not being able to find ANY women. Try looking for women that are closer to your 'level' and you may find that finding someone isn't all that difficult.
IWalkAlone Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 You are incorrect that I am mostly interested in "hot" women. FYI, most of the women I've asked out are of average appearance, not the Pamela Andersons or Jessica Simpsons. You are correct that this is a result of trying to figure out why so many men I see have little trouble hooking up with women while it is virtually impossible for me. Some guys will say "Women just like jerks," or "They only want men with money," but I've seen plenty of guys who are successful with women who are "nice" guys, or not especially good looking, or who didn't have a lot of money. So my explanation explains this. As for sticking to "my level," how do you suggest I determine if a woman is "my level" or not?
Walk Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 As for sticking to "my level," how do you suggest I determine if a woman is "my level" or not? I usually determine if a guy is at my level by whether he accepts a date (or several) with me. If he snubs his nose, then he was beneath me. hahahahah
SmoochieFace Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 You are incorrect that I am mostly interested in "hot" women. FYI, most of the women I've asked out are of average appearance, not the Pamela Andersons or Jessica Simpsons. Then there probably is some personality 'flaw' or whatever that is turning them off. Maybe it's your approach? Maybe you're giving off a 'desperation' vibe? *shrug* You are correct that this is a result of trying to figure out why so many men I see have little trouble hooking up with women while it is virtually impossible for me. Some guys will say "Women just like jerks," or "They only want men with money," but I've seen plenty of guys who are successful with women who are "nice" guys, or not especially good looking, or who didn't have a lot of money. So my explanation explains this. As for sticking to "my level," how do you suggest I determine if a woman is "my level" or not? Your 'explanation' leaves out two important things, IMO. Confidence and high self-esteem. Those two things do not come from having money, 'good looks', or 'charisma'. In fact, you could just ditch the three thingies you brought up and just go with the two I brought up. Of course, there's much more involved than just having the confidence and self-esteem as in your values, goals, etc. but the main two thingies will at least get your foot in the door. Your 'level'? Dunno as I don't know what you look like or what your interests are, or your values, beliefs, etc.
IWalkAlone Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 Then there probably is some personality 'flaw' or whatever that is turning them off. Maybe it's your approach? Maybe you're giving off a 'desperation' vibe? *shrug* I know that appearing to be desparate is bad, so I don't do or say things that indicate deparation. It's got to be OK to feel you'd like someone in you're life. Otherwise, why are you trying to date someone? Your 'explanation' leaves out two important things, IMO. Confidence and high self-esteem. Those two things do not come from having money, 'good looks', or 'charisma'. In fact, you could just ditch the three thingies you brought up and just go with the two I brought up. Of course, there's much more involved than just having the confidence and self-esteem as in your values, goals, etc. but the main two thingies will at least get your foot in the door. Confidence and self-esteem, or rather projecting confidence and self esteem, come under the charisma catagory. In my observation, many of the guys who project confidence and self-esteem actually lack these qualities. The "seduction" websites actually stress this heavily. Some guys feel just fine about themselves, but becauses they lack bravado in their outward personality, they can come off as less confidence than an insincere guy who's faking it. Your 'level'? Dunno as I don't know what you look like or what your interests are, or your values, beliefs, etc. I assumed when you said "level" you meant in looks, as in Brad Pitt/Jessica Simpson on one level and Jack Black/Rosie O'Donnell on another. Did you mean something else?
SmoochieFace Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 I know that appearing to be desparate is bad, so I don't do or say things that indicate deparation. It's got to be OK to feel you'd like someone in you're life. Otherwise, why are you trying to date someone? Of course it's 'OK' to want to have someone in your life. I don't think that anyone will dispute that. The key though is to not allow that want to appear to be the most important thing. Confidence and self-esteem, or rather projecting confidence and self esteem, come under the charisma catagory. In my observation, many of the guys who project confidence and self-esteem actually lack these qualities. The "seduction" websites actually stress this heavily. Some guys feel just fine about themselves, but becauses they lack bravado in their outward personality, they can come off as less confidence than an insincere guy who's faking it. Maybe you're right but I have a different take on this 'charisma' thing. To me, it brings up an image of a smooth-talking suave stud that borders on being a con artist. JMO, of course. I don't think that guys have to have 'bravado' in their personalities in order to 'score'. That's just more BS being peddled by those silly sites. I speak from experience here. JBY has always worked for me. I assumed when you said "level" you meant in looks, as in Brad Pitt/Jessica Simpson on one level and Jack Black/Rosie O'Donnell on another. Did you mean something else? Looks are only part of the entire package and how people 'react' to your looks can vary greatly. There are plenty of women who do not find Brad Pitt attractive. I personally do not find Jessica Simpson to be attractive at all - physically or otherwise. See what I mean? There is much more than just your physical appearance at play. Your personality actually means more than you may think.
IWalkAlone Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 I don't think that guys have to have 'bravado' in their personalities in order to 'score'. That's just more BS being peddled by those silly sites. I speak from experience here. JBY has always worked for me. "Just be yourself" is often given as advice, but it works best when the the specific personality traits that define "yourself" happen to be those that women repsond to in a romatic/sexual way. If it worked for everyone, then would the seduction websites even exist? Looks are only part of the entire package and how people 'react' to your looks can vary greatly. There are plenty of women who do not find Brad Pitt attractive. I personally do not find Jessica Simpson to be attractive at all - physically or otherwise. See what I mean? There is much more than just your physical appearance at play. Your personality actually means more than you may think. I think you actually agree with me. Someone who looks great can be a turnoff to many people if their personality sucks. If their personality is great, then they may be found attractve even if their looks are nothing special. Lots of money is a plus, but it is less relevent when looks and personality are strong. When you say that someone has a lot of money or doesn't have a lot of money, we all know what that means. But anyone who is alive and not in a vegitative state has a personality. So what exactly are the personality traits that cause women to be romatically/sexually attracted, vs. liked as a "friend" or not liked at all? You called it "confidence" and "good self esteem." I've observed that a man's self esteem can be just fine and they can feel confidence in many areas, but women still won't respond romantically/sexually. So I summarized it as "charisma," which would include confidence and self-esteem (or the appearance of them), but there is more to it than that. Oh, and the slick con-jobs you spoke of? They're just bad at it.
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