Pyro Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 actually its supposed to be the other way around. the girl should be nice and the boy bad. and then if his bad treatment gets too much then she leaves... you have the roles reversed. Actually, neither side should have to be mean. Why do you think that one side should be mean?
Woggle Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 actually its supposed to be the other way around. the girl should be nice and the boy bad. and then if his bad treatment gets too much then she leaves... you have the roles reversed. No it is not reversed. My life is worth too much to waste in a bad relationship. Why waste time with a woman that does not repsect me and mistreats me when I can spend that time on other projects or hanging out with my friends. A woman need sto make herself worth my time or else she will not be in my life. My wife has but many women are not worth it.
Porn_Guy Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Actually, neither side should have to be mean. Why do you think that one side should be mean? Because it is mans nature to be mean and woman's nature to be nice. Both effects cancel out to zero and the human race goes on.... No it is not reversed. . yes it is
Pyro Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Because it is mans nature to be mean and woman's nature to be nice. Both effects cancel out to zero and the human race goes on.... yes it is It is not our nature to be mean Alpha. I don't know where you get your info from. If I wanted to be mean and bitter, I would, but what is the point of that?
Porn_Guy Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 It is not our nature to be mean Alpha. I don't know where you get your info from. If I wanted to be mean and bitter, I would, but what is the point of that? who is this alpha everyone refers to? i am not him. i will have to look at his posts and see what he is about
CaliGuy Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 The whole notion that a guy has to be the polar opposite of nice (ie: become a jerk) to get women is ridiculous. Women don't want jerks any more than they want door mats. The trick is to learn to be balanced. Confident Self-assured Happy Independent Seek approval within Have a good sense of humor Also, there are times when you should be "nice" and times when you need to be a "jerk" but neither should be extremes. If she treats you bad, you need to let her know. If you want to do nice things for her, do it in moderation and don't expect anything in return. When you find the balance that is required you'll end up pushing unhealthy or bad people away and attract people who are healthy, have good boundaries and are GOOD for you. The only way to attract a healthy woman with a good head on her shoulders is to BE a healthy man with a good head on his shoulders. Well balanced. Cheers.
Pyro Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Also, there are times when you should be "nice" and times when you need to be a "jerk" but neither should be extremes. If she treats you bad, you need to let her know. If you want to do nice things for her, do it in moderation and don't expect anything in return. When you find the balance that is required you'll end up pushing unhealthy or bad people away and attract people who are healthy, have good boundaries and are GOOD for you. The only way to attract a healthy woman with a good head on her shoulders is to BE a healthy man with a good head on his shoulders. Well balanced. Cheers. I agree that balance is the key but I still don't agree with being a jerk. Yes you need to let her know if she is treating you bad, but I still believe that it is possible to do that without being a jerk. That is where good communication skills come into play.
Quinch Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Because it is mans nature to be mean and woman's nature to be nice. Both effects cancel out to zero and the human race goes on.... I disagree. It's not a case of cancelling out two conflicting natures but finding natures that balance each other. IMO people get hurt when they try to play games by the other person's rules (being 'nice'), especially when that person keeps changing the rules to suit themselves. We're happiest when we just be ourselves and the other person respects us for that.
CaliGuy Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 I agree that balance is the key but I still don't agree with being a jerk. Yes you need to let her know if she is treating you bad, but I still believe that it is possible to do that without being a jerk. That is where good communication skills come into play. Let me rephrase that. When a woman is treating you badly, you let her know about it. I don't mean be an arrrzzz-hole about it, I mean stand up for yourself and have a backbone. I don't mean getting physical about it or cursing/swearing, etc. The mature/masculine man will be calm about it, he'll just let her know when she is being a b*tch and not put up with it. Sometimes that can be confused with being a jerk but I used the analogy because true door mats don't understand how to discern between a confident/secure guy with healthy boundaries and your classic "jerk." Cheers
Pyro Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Let me rephrase that. When a woman is treating you badly, you let her know about it. I don't mean be an arrrzzz-hole about it, I mean stand up for yourself and have a backbone. I don't mean getting physical about it or cursing/swearing, etc. The mature/masculine man will be calm about it, he'll just let her know when she is being a b*tch and not put up with it. Sometimes that can be confused with being a jerk but I used the analogy because true door mats don't understand how to discern between a confident/secure guy with healthy boundaries and your classic "jerk." Cheers Ok, read you loud and clear. Thats why we are here, to help them discern the two.
Porn_Guy Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 Let me rephrase that. When a woman is treating you badly, you let her know about it. I don't mean be an arrrzzz-hole about it, I mean stand up for yourself and have a backbone. I don't mean getting physical about it or cursing/swearing, etc. The mature/masculine man will be calm about it, he'll just let her know when she is being a b*tch and not put up with it. ha ha ha ha ha
Pyro Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 ha ha ha ha ha You should try it some time, it will actually work, obviously you have to be with the right type of woman.
SmoochieFace Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 ha ha ha ha ha Why the disparagement? Care to share your story with us?
Porn_Guy Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 Why the disparagement? Care to share your story with us? not particularly...
SmoochieFace Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 not particularly... That's why we are here... we are one big happy family that likes to swap stories and perhaps help others with them. Don't be shy... not like we are all excons or anything.
clatan Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 There are many women that want jerks, That's why I don't really have a lot of sympathy (okay, I do in some cases) for women whose boyfriends verbally abuse them, boss them around, cheat on them and generally take advantage of them. I think many of them getting what they deserve. Because if you look at many of these women's dating histories, you'll probably find that they dated a decent guy or two but kicked them to the curb because he was a "nice guy." They wanted someone more challenging and exiting. Well, she wants it -- she gets it! And as a nice, but confident and independent guy, I'm not the one to look for for sympathy. But when I get stood up and stabbed in the back, I don't get too bitter anymore since I've started to realize this. This is my one sense of satisfaction in seeing them find their "perfect match."
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