"Nice girls"

[insomnie]

You always hear about how nice guys tend to finish last with women. How women all say they want nice guys, but it is the guys that don't treat them quite as well that they fall madly in love with. Maybe not the downright ********* abusers, but not the stereotypical nice guys, either.

 

Is the opposite true as well? Do nice girls finish last?

 

I've been looking around lately and the girls that seem to mistreat their boyfriends the most are the ones who consitently have guys completley "in love" with them and ready to give more up to be with them. There are plenty of posts to validate this, too. Almost all the posts with guys moaning about how crazy they are about someone involve that someone somehow mistreating them a little.

 

I have self esteem but when I'm in a relationship I feel the need to give my all. I put my SO first and consciously make every effort not to hurt them. And yet, every boyfrined I've ever had has been lukewarm. And it isn't that there's anything wrong with me or that I somehow place "lower" on any kind of objective hotness rating than the mean girls. Why is this?

 

Maybe I should start being a b*tch.

[Krytellan]

I think what's consistent across the genders is that it depends on the person's past experience. I was attracted to my share of "mean" girls in the past. Now, unfortunately, I married a "hottie with a mean streak" and am now divorcing. I'm currently dating a wonderful girl who is caring and giving of herself and whom I know is vulnerable, but I do it because I know better having learned from experience.

 

As a nice guy, you learn that women only like nice guys after they have been hurt (sometimes repeatedly) by the bad ones. Nice people tend to be most appreciated by those who have been hurt and have learned how bad "bad" people can be. As such, nice people tend to get most of their action later in life. Being a "nice" teenager sucked, and I always thought that it would pay off in the end. I'm now 32 and have had more experiences with wonderful women than I could have imagined.

 

Nice people simply finish LATER!

[Antheia]

Guys love bitches. Cheat on them, leave them for another guy, they will only want you more. Give them mixed signals, avoid them, bring it on. If you treat them with nothing but kindeness and respect, give your all to them, they will end up falling for some bitch and treating you like crap. I have seen it happen over and over again. It's those bossy, selfish, uncaring, cold girls that get best guys, looks don't even come into it. However, I'm not about to turn into a bitch. I would rather stay single forever. A guy who doesn't appreciate nice girl with a good heart is a guy that I don't want anyway.

[burning 4 revenge]

There's something sexy about a girl who's unpredictable, selfish and ultimately can never love you.

[Antheia]

Hot girl + Bitch = JACKPOT!!!

Ugly girl + Bitch = WIN!

Hot + Nice girl = CRAP!

Ugly + Nice girl = SAME CRAP!

[Antheia]

There's something sexy about a girl who's unpredictable, selfish and ultimately can never love you.

 

Only if you are shallow and immature - wait that's 99% of men.

[Krytellan]

Guys love bitches. Cheat on them, leave them for another guy, they will only want you more. Give them mixed signals, avoid them, bring it on. If you treat them with nothing but kindeness and respect, give your all to them, they will end up falling for some bitch and treating you like crap. I have seen it happen over and over again. It's those bossy, selfish, uncaring, cold girls that get best guys, looks don't even come into it. However, I'm not about to turn into a bitch. I would rather stay single forever. A guy who doesn't appreciate nice girl with a good heart is a guy that I don't want anyway.

 

And these guys have never been taken to school by one yet... it'll change once they've been outdone.

[burning 4 revenge]

Ugly girl + Bitch = WIN!

This was my last gf. I've never loved anyone so completely.

[IpAncA]

I have seen it happen over and over again. It's those bossy, selfish, uncaring, cold girls that get best guys, looks don't even come into it. However, I'm not about to turn into a bitch.

 

Gezz..thanks. I like being a bitch myself. I'm not really a bitch to my H though. However it turns my H on. Especially if I come home and yell about something at work or something that doesn't involved him. He takes interest in me real quick and he always seems to be in a better mood. Haven't figured that mood thing out yet though. Humm....

 

Anyhow some guys do like nice girls just like some girls like nice guys. You just have to find them because they are out there for sure.

 

I wouldn't change yourself to be something your not. Just be yourself and someone is sure to come along.

 

I will say that nice people do seem to finish last. It shouldn't be like that but thats how it seems to fan out.

[burning 4 revenge]

When a girl is a bitch her wetness smells sexier

[Antheia]

This was my last gf. I've never loved anyone so completely.

 

No offense, but I'm not one bit sorry that she broke your heart then.

[Antheia]

When a girl is a bitch her wetness smells sexier

 

People just want what they can't have. That's a simple fact.

[IpAncA]

People just want what they can't have. That's a simple fact.

Yeah but people are getting it and still have it.

[burning 4 revenge]

She gets what she wants. She's in her late thirties and not good looking and she bangs pretty boys in their early twenties.

[Antheia]

Yeah but people are getting it and still have it.

 

Not really. Even if a guy has long term relationship/mariage to a "bitch", she will still put herself first therefore giving him perception that he doesn't have her love fully. In his mind he is figthing for it on daily basis.

[Antheia]

Nice people tend to be most appreciated by those who have been hurt and have learned how bad "bad" people can be.

 

I don't really want a man who has been burned by a bitch and has learned his lesson. Perhaps, in his mind he has, but insinctively he is still going to long for the bitch. I want somone who has always prefered nice girls and wouldn't take a second look at the bitch. My dad is like that, my mum is so lucky (& vice versa) and they have the best marriage. So I know there are men like that around, even if they are rare. Generally, weak men are attracted to bitches - again 99% of them.

[burning 4 revenge]

I don't really want a man who has been burned by a bitch and has learned his lesson. Generally, weak men are attracted to bitches - again 99% of them.

I like the way you talk

[Antheia]

I like the way you talk

 

STFU I'm trying to be passionate about this topic.

[DanielMadr]

There's something sexy about a girl who's unpredictable, selfish and ultimately can never love you.

when you are submissive gimp slave, then maybe:sick:

[DanielMadr]

Problem with so called nice girls is....

 

1. They can be too insecure to a point that you are afraid that she will commit suicide when eventually dumped

 

2. They can be very shy to a point that you dont know if she is interested or not interested but afraid to tell you more clearly.

 

3. They are not very sexual. Dont initiate touching are not very sure about anything....too structured and not spontaneus...too controlling themselves.

 

4. They are pretty smart most of the time, good for them.....but they have that attitude thinking they are smarter then that guy asking them out. Which is arrogant and turn off.

[DanielMadr]

I don't really want a man who has been burned by a bitch and has learned his lesson. Perhaps, in his mind he has, but insinctively he is still going to long for the bitch. I want somone who has always prefered nice girls and wouldn't take a second look at the bitch. My dad is like that, my mum is so lucky (& vice versa) and they have the best marriage. So I know there are men like that around, even if they are rare. Generally, weak men are attracted to bitches - again 99% of them.

 

Those girls are not called ATTENTION WH0RES for no reason;) They are responsible for most broken hearts. They know how to get guys attention/heart. When he is leaving they pull him closer. When he is too close, they push. Queens of false hopes....inexperinced(naive) guys fall for it. I never was in love with attention wh0re, so dont take it like I make some alibi.

[Krytellan]

Problem with so called nice girls is....

 

1. They can be too insecure to a point that you are afraid that she will commit suicide when eventually dumped

 

2. They can be very shy to a point that you dont know if she is interested or not interested but afraid to tell you more clearly.

 

3. They are not very sexual. Dont initiate touching are not very sure about anything....too structured and not spontaneus...too controlling themselves.

 

4. They are pretty smart most of the time, good for them.....but they have that attitude thinking they are smarter then that guy asking them out. Which is arrogant and turn off.

 

 

See, I'm not so sure some of these things are bad (ok, I'll give you suicidal). I'm currently dating a beautiful "nice" girl. She's sweet, vulnerable (I've been around long enough to know vulnerability when I see it), and I have no doubt that she would do everything for me. Fortunately for her, she has found someone who finds all of those qualities fantastic and that would never take advantage of her. There's something sexy snd refreshing about being with a woman that you know will treat you better than you deserve. Unfortunately, these women are so often involved with people who take advantage of it.

I married a bitch... unfortunately. Yeah, not so attractive after a little while. She was the ugliest beautiful person I had ever known. And yes, these experiences do make you value genuine niceness more, though I would have chiosen niceness from the start

 

The point: The value of nice girls is grossly underrated.

[IpAncA]

Well I never knew that bitchy girls were that much hated by those who are not. It's not their fault they can get guys. Blame the guy who ends up with them I say. Their the ones that end up with them too.

 

If they don't want a mean girl nor a nice girl. Then who is left? I think it just comes down to the guys preference and whether or not the two click.

[DanielMadr]

See, I'm not so sure some of these things are bad (ok, I'll give you suicidal). I'm currently dating a beautiful "nice" girl. She's sweet, vulnerable (I've been around long enough to know vulnerability when I see it), and I have no doubt that she would do everything for me. Fortunately for her, she has found someone who finds all of those qualities fantastic and that would never take advantage of her. There's something sexy snd refreshing about being with a woman that you know will treat you better than you deserve. Unfortunately, these women are so often involved with people who take advantage of it.

I married a bitch... unfortunately. Yeah, not so attractive after a little while. She was the ugliest beautiful person I had ever known. And yes, these experiences do make you value genuine niceness more, though I would have chiosen niceness from the start

 

The point: The value of nice girls is grossly underrated.

 

Dont get me wrong. I dont think nice girls are bad. I gave my reasons why they are not so in demand. No doubt being vulnerable is attractive feminine feature. Sometimes too much is just too much.

[IpAncA]

Not really. Even if a guy has long term relationship/mariage to a "bitch", she will still put herself first therefore giving him perception that he doesn't have her love fully. In his mind he is figthing for it on daily basis.

How do you know? Yeah some may but not all.