DanielMadr Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 that you guys are snobby. women know exactly what is going on around them at all times. they are 10x smarter and more perceptive than men are with these issues. Exactly. If everyone thinks you are snobby.....you are snobby even if you think you are not, because you know deep down you are insecure wreck:lmao: Fortunatelly Ive met a few Girls witch were Perfect Human Beings. Some of them were even exceptionally good looking. They were not overly flirty or sexual but you just wanted to be with them all day. They had one thing in common....their fathers or brothers were the type of guys you want to go to war with.
HeadlessZebra Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Im not saying you are not attractive.....the zebra picture is yummy. But Id like to say, that big turn off for me is, when I walk up to a girl (sometimes for innocent reasons) and she gives me the look 'OH, I know you want me, silly boy'. It is bad. But worse is, when not so good looking girl is imitating this behaviour 'Im so hot, everyone wants me', 'Im too good for most of guys'.....I mean they cant fool us....we have eyes....and they do their situation worse. They repel 90% of guys....becausethey dont look so goood and they have horrible attitude. The not-so-hot chicks I know who act like they're the sh|t usually do so with a b|tchy attitude. The thinking goes along the lines of "If I act like I'm too good for them, maybe they'll start believing it, or maybe it'll excuse the fact that no one wants to hit on me." Dude, I wish I could do the "Oh, I know you want me, silly boy" thing when someone walks up... I just don't have the panache for that sort of thing, because I'm usually sh|tting a brick when someone's walking up to talk to me So I just smile like a moron as my palms get sweaty and all that comes out of my mouth is "Duh... erm... so you, uh, come here often?... Durrr... you're cute... urghggggmmmmurg... bartender, I need a scotch, please *sh|ts a brick now*"
Krytellan Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Different guys will definitely look for different things. Personally, I look for something unique in a girl. For example, I very much prefer "cute" to "hot". I will pass over a girl trying to look hot any day. I tend to be attracted to those that are a bit classy and that have a cute quality to them. Women who ooze ego are not attractive to me either.
nicki Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 For me, I found I started to get better results when I was friendly to EVERYONE, male or female, old or young. I started thinking of everyone in the bar as a potential friend, and as people who I could learn something from. I didn't shoot anyone down who came over to me. I talked to everyone, without flirting. It became more about connecting and learning, than finding someone to date. And I found plenty of men to date, and made a few friends and business contacts as well. I guess as women we are trained to appear "hot and overtly sexy." But more often than not, it comes across as "bitchy and unattainable." So, now I'm just very friendly and quietly sexy. It's more me anyway.
SmoochieFace Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Guys are generally the pursuers. Sometimes a guy approaches a girl in the bar and she's very friendly. Sometimes she's a snobby bitch. After many, many approaches--both failed and otherwise--the guy starts to focus on the ones who seem approachable and avoid the ones who seem unapproachable. Personal experience has told me that, IN GENERAL, the 'goodlooking' and 'hot' women are the 'snobby bitches' and therefore are unapproachable. Therefore, they do not get my attention. Maybe a stereotype but it's one that seems to be accurate more often than not.
DanielMadr Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 For me, I found I started to get better results when I was friendly to EVERYONE, male or female, old or young. EXACTLY. Confident and positive people have no need to be rude or arrogant. It doesnt neccesary mean you are a sucker. I started thinking of everyone in the bar as a potential friend, and as people who I could learn something from. I didn't shoot anyone down who came over to me. I talked to everyone, without flirting. It became more about connecting and learning, than finding someone to date. Yep. And rejecting some clingy/drunk in friendly/confident manner is more effective then cold shoulder.
DanielMadr Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 The not-so-hot chicks I know who act like they're the sh|t usually do so with a b|tchy attitude. The thinking goes along the lines of "If I act like I'm too good for them, maybe they'll start believing it, or maybe it'll excuse the fact that no one wants to hit on me." Yeah, I thought it could be the reason. Dude, I wish I could do the "Oh, I know you want me, silly boy" thing when someone walks up... I just don't have the panache for that sort of thing, because I'm usually sh|tting a brick when someone's walking up to talk to me So I just smile like a moron as my palms get sweaty and all that comes out of my mouth is "Duh... erm... so you, uh, come here often?... Durrr... you're cute... urghggggmmmmurg... bartender, I need a scotch, please *sh|ts a brick now*" Sounds very sweet I mean if you are not actually laying bricks...Im not into this kind of thing, not being 60yo German pervert. I hope you are able to walk and talk after a few minutes....on scotch. Are you able in this state to write down telephone number????
HeadlessZebra Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I hope you are able to walk and talk after a few minutes....on scotch. Are you able in this state to write down telephone number???? Aforementioned social awkwardness has led me to such alcoholism that I can chug an entire pint of whiskey without feeling a buzz.
DanielMadr Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Aforementioned social awkwardness has led me to such alcoholism that I can chug an entire pint of whiskey without feeling a buzz. OK. I dont drink but I tried to adopt that bad-boy look....so now I cant drink because I have hook instead of my right arm, Im limping and I have eye-patch so I cant get the glass to mouth without spilling:lmao: Not even mentioning that annoying parrot:rolleyes:
Author BARBGURL Posted December 5, 2006 Author Posted December 5, 2006 all good looking women say this exact same thing. I've heard it a million times. Now I just laugh That's an unfair generalization. I do not doubt that there are many women who behave badly with intent to do so, but I am not one of them. Admittedly it is not easy for some men in a bar-like setting to approach a woman, but it's not easy to be a woman in that situation either. There is a certain amount of social awkwardness. In general I think the feedback here is constructive. My original thought was that perhaps my body language was preventing me from attracting the right kind of guy. I end up spending the evening talking to "joe playa". It seems that this may be the case. I do smile a lot, but maybe my fear is coming through as aloof in attitude. I will work on that.
SmoochieFace Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 That's an unfair generalization. I do not doubt that there are many women who behave badly with intent to do so, but I am not one of them. Admittedly it is not easy for some men in a bar-like setting to approach a woman, but it's not easy to be a woman in that situation either. There is a certain amount of social awkwardness. In general I think the feedback here is constructive. My original thought was that perhaps my body language was preventing me from attracting the right kind of guy. I end up spending the evening talking to "joe playa". It seems that this may be the case. I do smile a lot, but maybe my fear is coming through as aloof in attitude. I will work on that. Of course not. As if any woman who does behave badly with intent will actually admit it...
Author BARBGURL Posted December 5, 2006 Author Posted December 5, 2006 Not true. As soon as I get done singing the ladies are all smiles. I don't doubt that. A man who sings is attractive. I see a lot of woman trolling the karaoke room in a bar.
alphamale Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Admittedly it is not easy for some men in a bar-like setting to approach a woman, but it's not easy to be a woman in that situation either. There is a certain amount of social awkwardness. Then why are they at the bar in the first place? If you're looking for a real relationship the bar is the worst place to look. Relationiships that start in a bar usually end in a bar.
Yamaha Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 If a guy had a dollar for every girl who said they are just looking for a good guy he'd be a millionaire. Guys have been around the block and they know what most women are like before they approach them. If you are having trouble being approached by the kind of guys you want you can blame your fellow sisters for a guys lack of enthusiasm or you are just going to have to show him it's not lip service.
Author BARBGURL Posted December 5, 2006 Author Posted December 5, 2006 If a guy had a dollar for every girl who said they are just looking for a good guy he'd be a millionaire. Guys have been around the block and they know what most women are like before they approach them. If you are having trouble being approached by the kind of guys you want you can blame your fellow sisters for a guys lack of enthusiasm or you are just going to have to show him it's not lip service. True enough. There is no real reason that a faceless person in a random relationship forum should be believed. Then again, there is no real reason to be dishonest either. In truth, the alphamale usually does get the girl, but there's not much hope for a long term relationship unless he "changes" and men don't want to be expected to change nor should they - or anybody for that matter. Alphamale: As far as looking for a relationship in a bar, I don't know if that's really the goal. But it's always good to be open minded and see potential everywhere. Mostly I think we go to bars to have a good time, but as a part of human nature, we "hunt" so to speak when we are out. Stripped down, it's the "You Tarzan - Me Jane" scenario. So many people like to offer up the idea that church is a good place to meet people. Hmmmm, well I don't believe in organized religion so I guess I am S.O.L.!!!!
DanielMadr Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 In truth, the alphamale usually does get the girl, but there's not much hope for a long term relationship unless he "changes" and men don't want to be expected to change nor should they - or anybody for that matter. Thats what frustrated guys tell to themselves. That is not exactly truth. He has much more oportunity, options. One day he come accross quality woman and he will be able to pick her up due to his experience. Average Nice Guy who is waiting for the right one to settle down will do so but with not so quality girl that alpha let go.
SmoochieFace Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 If a guy had a dollar for every girl who said they are just looking for a good guy he'd be a millionaire. Guys have been around the block and they know what most women are like before they approach them. If you are having trouble being approached by the kind of guys you want you can blame your fellow sisters for a guys lack of enthusiasm or you are just going to have to show him it's not lip service. Exactly and that's the primary reason why I do not approach women. I have zero enthusiasm when it comes to approaching women for any reason except when I am buying my chow and treats for the week.
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