Pyro Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Yes, but in the context of "I know I want this woman, and I'm going to treat her like a treasure because she IS." It has a lot to do with confidence and going after her to "make" her yours. It also requires knowing the woman and what will make her feel special. For example, a beautiful woman who's always gotten compliments on her beauty isn't necessarily going to feel more special because you compliment her on her beauty...in her life, that's pretty much a given. But if you notice something else about her, something she's proud of and wishes that people would notice in addition to her beauty, then you can really make her feel wonderful and as though you see her in a way that's different from everyone else. That makes YOU different from everyone else, to her. I figured that is what you meant. Well, in that case, I am quite the wooer to my GF, as is she for me.
pricillia Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Yes, but in the context of "I know I want this woman, and I'm going to treat her like a treasure because she IS." It has a lot to do with confidence and going after her to "make" her yours. It also requires knowing the woman and what will make her feel special. For example, a beautiful woman who's always gotten compliments on her beauty isn't necessarily going to feel more special because you compliment her on her beauty...in her life, that's pretty much a given. But if you notice something else about her, something she's proud of and wishes that people would notice in addition to her beauty, then you can really make her feel wonderful and as though you see her in a way that's different from everyone else. That makes YOU different from everyone else, to her. Yes Nora, that is exactly what I was trying to say...
norajane Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 I figured that is what you meant. Well, in that case, I am quite the wooer to my GF, as is she for me. That must be why you always have that big grin in your AV...
magichands Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 So in other words, the art of wooing is just being thoughtful and considerate of another? No. It requires creativity. You make it sound so mind-numbingly "nice guy." The things you mentioned are just standard humanity. Or should be.
Pyro Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 That must be why you always have that big grin in your AV... That is a huge factor, but in all honesty, I can even be a happy person when I am single. I like myself and life too much to not have a big grin on my face.
magichands Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 That must be why you always have that big grin in your AV... You have to wonder what's going on out of shot of the camera.
Lights Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Interestingly, one thing I find very strange is an apparent dearth of women who are sufficiently socially skilled and articulate to be able to say "[Man's name], I really like it when a man does [set of ancient behaviors]. In return, I plan on performing [set of ancient behaviors]. How does that sound?"
alphamale Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Interestingly, one thing I find very strange is an apparent dearth of women who are sufficiently socially skilled and articulate to be able to say "[Man's name], I really like it when a man does [set of ancient behaviors]. In return, I plan on performing [set of ancient behaviors]. How does that sound?" hahAhahHHAhHAhhHHahAHHAH
norajane Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Interestingly, one thing I find very strange is an apparent dearth of women who are sufficiently socially skilled and articulate to be able to say "[Man's name], I really like it when a man does [set of ancient behaviors]. In return, I plan on performing [set of ancient behaviors]. How does that sound?" Well, that sort of kills the whole mystery and romance of it, doesn't it?
Trialbyfire Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Interestingly, one thing I find very strange is an apparent dearth of women who are sufficiently socially skilled and articulate to be able to say "[Man's name], I really like it when a man does [set of ancient behaviors]. In return, I plan on performing [set of ancient behaviors]. How does that sound?" lol, almost. The woman should say I like this and the man should say I like that. If done properly, it can add to the wooing by hinting versus using the "in yo' face" technique. As for flowers, I'm allergic to them, chocolates make me break out and money is something I can earn for myself, although I do expect the man to be my financial equal.
alphamale Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 lol, almost. The woman should say I like this and the man should say I like that. But womanese is full of illogic, emotion and non-linear thinking...
Trialbyfire Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 But womanese is full of illogic, emotion and non-linear thinking... Perhaps it's because manese is completely irrational?
Woggle Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Somebody says that we are afraid of strong women but that is not true because feminists are not strong. A strong women does not have to bring men down in order for her to feel strong.
Trialbyfire Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Doesn't the reverse hold true for strong men?
Woggle Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Doesn't the reverse hold true for strong men? Yes but popular culture glorifies treating men like garbage in the name of feminism. What started out as a noble push for equality has devolved into a hate movement. Imagine the outrage if little boys were going around wearing shirts that said girls are stupid so throw rocks at them. Women go around encaouring this because they thnk it makes them empowered and then wonder why men aren't gentlemen anymore. It really pisses me off when women complain about this unless they acknowledge what got us to this point.
alphamale Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Yes but popular culture glorifies treating men like garbage in the name of feminism. Exactly!! All you see on TV now is effeminate gay dudes and emasulated spineless boobs. Women eat this stuff up in the general media. They love watching this stuff for fun then in real life they want a take-charge man who will dominate them. WTF!
Trialbyfire Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Yes but popular culture glorifies treating men like garbage in the name of feminism. What started out as a noble push for equality has devolved into a hate movement. Imagine the outrage if little boys were going around wearing shirts that said girls are stupid so throw rocks at them. Women go around encaouring this because they thnk it makes them empowered and then wonder why men aren't gentlemen anymore. It really pisses me off when women complain about this unless they acknowledge what got us to this point. Have you ever watched some old TV series/cartoons? The Honeymooners, All in the Family and even the Flintstones? You have your answer why feminists choose to bash men. Myself, I'm no feminist. I'm an equal opportunist.
alphamale Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 I'm an equal opportunist. Equal Opportunity is a red herring....either one group dominates or the other does, the is no middle ground.
Woggle Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Have you ever watched some old TV series/cartoons? The Honeymooners, All in the Family and even the Flintstones? You have your answer why feminists choose to bash men. Myself, I'm no feminist. I'm an equal opportunist. All in the family was actually making fun of men like Archie Bunker. In no way was it condoning his views. I don't condone that either but a woman should not make me her punching bag because she was attracted to bad boys all her life and now is bitter towards men after getting used so much. It is not my fault that she used bad judgement and she should not whine when I don't want to give up my seat on the subway. Her need to rest after walking a few blocks is no more important than mine.
Woggle Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Equal Opportunity is a red herring....either one group dominates or the other does, the is no middle ground. I actually don't agree with that. I fully believe in equality and I think that it can be acheived but feminism is no way about equality. I realized that years ago and many more men are waking up to that fact.
Trialbyfire Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Equal opportunity isn't about everything being 50/50. It's about putting in 50% of what your strengths are. Each of you is better in certain areas of which, naturally, you will dominate on. My two bits...
magichands Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 It's about putting in 50% of what your strengths are. And what are you doing with the other 50% of your strengths? You player, you.
alphamale Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 I actually don't agree with that. I fully believe in equality ok then WOGGLE....give me ONE example of where two groups of people are totally equal, as in 50-50.
Pyro Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Equal opportunity isn't about everything being 50/50. It's about putting in 50% of what your strengths are. Each of you is better in certain areas of which, naturally, you will dominate on. My two bits... I like this statement. Some things a man will dominate in a relationship and some things a women will as well.
Pyro Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 No. It requires creativity. You make it sound so mind-numbingly "nice guy." The things you mentioned are just standard humanity. Or should be. Of course it requires creativity. Being creative shows that you are going the extra mile to make your SO happy. Part of being thoughtful and considerate of your SO is trying and doing new things. Being spontaneous is a good thing.
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