DanielMadr Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 In most cases they want you to take a MOVE. How can you tell its that or more common 'f@ck uff'? Until you hear it
nicki Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 Great question! It makes me realize how hard it is for you guys. I say make a small move and see if you get a response. For instance, get closer to her. Catch her eye, and smile. If she looks away, but looks back at you, that's good. If she smiles at you, good. If she ignores you completely, not so good. She's not interested. If for some twisted reason she is really ignoring you as a ploy to get you to want her, then don't waste your time. Women like that are mean. So, make small baby step moves. Try saying something to a woman. If I like a guy, I respond in a way that keeps the conversation moving. If I don't like the guy, I try to be polite, but I don't offer any information. Or I make an excuse to leave. And, yep, sometimes you have to wait for the "f#ck off" look. Don't sweat it, though. How are you to know? You are just politely inquiring, not looking down her shirt while licking your lips.....(you are not doing that, are you? )
Spinderella Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 Possibly because every time they read dating advice, they hear that men like to chase, men like a challenge, if you are easy men will lose respect etc etc. Sometimes it makes women play a little hard to get for fear of the above.
Author DanielMadr Posted November 10, 2006 Author Posted November 10, 2006 Great question! It makes me realize how hard it is for you guys. I say make a small move and see if you get a response. For instance, get closer to her. Catch her eye, and smile. If she looks away, but looks back at you, that's good. If she smiles at you, good. If she ignores you completely, not so good. She's not interested. If for some twisted reason she is really ignoring you as a ploy to get you to want her, then don't waste your time. Women like that are mean. So, make small baby step moves. Try saying something to a woman. If I like a guy, I respond in a way that keeps the conversation moving. If I don't like the guy, I try to be polite, but I don't offer any information. Or I make an excuse to leave. And, yep, sometimes you have to wait for the "f#ck off" look. Don't sweat it, though. How are you to know? You are just politely inquiring, not looking down her shirt while licking your lips.....(you are not doing that, are you? ) Yep, excellent resume:) And what about later when you try to take her out on date ? Of course Im looking down her blouse....Im 6"4 tall, when I look down I see everything Of course I dont lick my lips...I try to lick hers
Author DanielMadr Posted November 10, 2006 Author Posted November 10, 2006 Possibly because every time they read dating advice, they hear that men like to chase, men like a challenge, if you are easy men will lose respect etc etc. Sometimes it makes women play a little hard to get for fear of the above. Exactly. Girls should realize that Good Hunter can have any prey and he wont be running two valleys for some skinny roe:D Men hate challenge. It confuses us. If girl is easy with "me" everything is OK....I am pleased she trusts me immediately. Only good reason why to play hard to get is to root out guys seeking "hit&run".
Walk Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 Daniel, I've been wondering for a while now what makes you expert on dating and women? Or, if not expert, then knowledgable. I'm not trying to pick a fight, just curious. I haven't seen any posts from you regarding your past relationships... like duration, numbers, what they were like, etc. I'll be honest with you.. I'm asking because I dont agree with a majority of your posts. They seem to be cobbled bits and pieces of "how to be a player" websites. And because I really feel every one deserves an opportunity to strut their stuff, then I'm kind of hoping you can tell me the great success in relationships you've had and explain to me why, and I can apologize for doubting your words of wisdom. So what's in your past Daniel that makes you so expert at all this? Other than being of tall stature...
Author DanielMadr Posted November 11, 2006 Author Posted November 11, 2006 Daniel, I've been wondering for a while now what makes you expert on dating and women? Or, if not expert, then knowledgable. I'm not trying to pick a fight, just curious. I haven't seen any posts from you regarding your past relationships... like duration, numbers, what they were like, etc. I'll be honest with you.. I'm asking because I dont agree with a majority of your posts. They seem to be cobbled bits and pieces of "how to be a player" websites. And because I really feel every one deserves an opportunity to strut their stuff, then I'm kind of hoping you can tell me the great success in relationships you've had and explain to me why, and I can apologize for doubting your words of wisdom. So what's in your past Daniel that makes you so expert at all this? Other than being of tall stature... Hmm...curious you really are:D I have to disappoint you. I have nothing against public confessions...I just dont publicly confess myself I at least try... What is the source of my knowledge? I was a pretty smart kid and good observer probably. Emotional intelligence probably pretty high For starters, my father, grandfather and uncles are that 'no bulshyt' type of men, in a good way.... thats the main source of information (they are hapilly married all of them) To feed your curiosity a little bit....Im not married and never was. Women like me...in most cases. Despite of it I dont collect notches and never did. Im not in love these days...my judgement is clear I am familiar with "how to be a player" (boys cosmopolitan) sites and I like to debate on their forums....I probably adopt their terminology, thats maybe why you see 'bits and pieces'. Im not Alphamale/DonJuan wannabe, dont worry:D What is in Your past that makes You expert? Rather tell me what you dont agree with. And we can find the truth. I admit I sometimes use strong words or simply put it in different light just for the sake of debate but most of my opinions are true and validated I assure you. Come on hit me....what is it that you dont agree with me most?
Walk Posted November 11, 2006 Posted November 11, 2006 Researching... Please wait... (insert cheesy elevator music here)
Author DanielMadr Posted November 11, 2006 Author Posted November 11, 2006 Researching... Please wait... (insert cheesy elevator music here) ding ding don don don dong:D
alphamale Posted November 11, 2006 Posted November 11, 2006 when many women find a man they really desire then they will chase him to the ends of the earth. women like to do the chasing. and in the end its the women who choose the men they want to be with.
Author DanielMadr Posted November 11, 2006 Author Posted November 11, 2006 when many women find a man they really desire then they will chase him to the ends of the earth. women like to do the chasing. and in the end its the women who choose the men they want to be with. Nice theory. But it has few glitches... 1. When the chase is over so is their interest in that man in most cases 2. Chasing is a sign that the two dont become from the same "league" e.g. movie star, millionaire, sportsman etc and "average" girl or Handsome guy and not too pretty girl 3. A little of artificial challenge made up by a guy is only to spice it up....fine. But when she has to really chase him it is because he is not interested at all or gay Yes men choose and women has the final word.
alphamale Posted November 11, 2006 Posted November 11, 2006 Nice theory. But it has few glitches.... not when the man wants casual sex with mutiple women.
Walk Posted November 11, 2006 Posted November 11, 2006 What is the source of my knowledge? I was a pretty smart kid and good observer probably. Emotional intelligence probably pretty high For starters, my father, grandfather and uncles are that 'no bulshyt' type of men, in a good way.... thats the main source of information (they are hapilly married all of them) To feed your curiosity a little bit....Im not married and never was. Women like me...in most cases. Despite of it I dont collect notches and never did. Im not in love these days...my judgement is clear I am familiar with "how to be a player" (boys cosmopolitan) sites and I like to debate on their forums....I probably adopt their terminology, thats maybe why you see 'bits and pieces'. Im not Alphamale/DonJuan wannabe, dont worry:D What is in Your past that makes You expert? Rather tell me what you dont agree with. And we can find the truth. I admit I sometimes use strong words or simply put it in different light just for the sake of debate but most of my opinions are true and validated I assure you. Come on hit me....what is it that you dont agree with me most? Ok.. went through bunches of your posts, not every single one, but a lot. I'd like to take back my statement that I don't agree with the majority of your posts. I guess I should've said I don't agree with the idea that people can tell when the other person wants, or doesn't want, to do whatever (kiss, sex, date...). I seem to have only seen those posts from you. You do have a lot of posts with sound advice.. I think the language is some what unclear, but that's on me to ask questions if I don't understand, so nothing wrong with that. But you talk a lot about "knowing" when a woman is playing coy, or really wants you to leave her alone. Some men can pick up on those signs... but honestly, I've known many men who were incapable of understanding anything but a blunt object to the side of their head. And I cringe when you give that advice to others, because all I can think is some poor girl is saying "I don't want to date you." and the guy is convincing himself she's just being coy with him but really wants him. Only to lead to a really bitter and jaded guy who thinks girls only play games. And a girl that thinks men are a-holes because men don't respect her feelings and wishes. Other than that.. it was just me being nosy. You didn't start on here with a relationship problem, nor mention any past relationships. I wondered what your experience was so that I could get a better idea of where you were coming from. Sorry to hijack the thread, but thank you for answering.
Author DanielMadr Posted December 3, 2006 Author Posted December 3, 2006 Some men can pick up on those signs... but honestly, I've known many men who were incapable of understanding anything but a blunt object to the side of their head. And I cringe when you give that advice to others, because all I can think is some poor girl is saying "I don't want to date you." and the guy is convincing himself she's just being coy with him but really wants him. Only to lead to a really bitter and jaded guy who thinks girls only play games. And a girl that thinks men are a-holes because men don't respect her feelings and wishes. That is the reality. Guys who need fingers shoved in to their eyes to get the message will use any excuse.....'she wants me, because it is Friday'. And I dont think my information will make some guys more bitter. 'She said to me to f@ck off but she actually liked me....uhoh...I was so blind' No need for censorship.
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