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Freinds: I am hoping you can give me some insight from your experience. I had an affair three years ago. It ended in disaster as I was caught. I was truly regretful for ALL of the events and fell into a deep depression for about 1 year over what I had done. I felt lower than low. I sought advice from everywhere including "marriagebuilders.com" and I wrestled with the whole idea of was I sorry I did it or sorry for the affair and trying to be honest with myself, could not tell. I listen to everyone say "Are you sorry about the affair or sorry you got caught?"

 

It's a tough question when it all first goes down because a person feels so much fear at the time. I felt like a horrible person and horrible people are only sorry when they get caught. Of course it would've been easier had I not been caught - but does that mean that my only regreat was that I was caught? It made me feel awful for more than a year. Now that the dust has settled, I feel better in that I can truly answer that question with that I'm truly sorry for the affair. I really wish it never happened as truly nothing was gained. Althought I thought I was in love, I realized later - I wasn't. I was reliving my seccond childhood or something.

 

Getting caught was VERY painful and what I really wish was that I ended the affair and healed my marriage on my own. But it is what it is and I'm just grateful the affair ended. I think to myself that everything happens for a reason and maybe I needed this big scary experience to shake the sense into me that I apparently so desparately needed. Maybe I never would've ended the affair had I not been caught, gone through a seperation or divorce or something else that I really didn't want, but didn't know it at the time - so if getting hit over the head with a brick is what I needed, so be it - it's what a big jerk like me needed.

 

Here's my question: The affair is long over. My spouse is even pretty much back to normal. But I can't live with my own guilt having hurt spouse so much - STILL. I find myself bending over backward to keep spouse happy. I cannot take it when spouse is not completely happy. I buy spouse expensive gifts, I let spouse quit the so spouse can follow a dream. I am the head of house hold now. I just can't take the guilt of the pain I caused, but I think I'm also going a little insame. I was leaving for work this morning and when I was saying "call ya when I get to work later" and kissing spouse goodbye, my spouse noticed my routine was a little different than normal. Spouse simply asked about it - like anyone would when they notice a person is doing something different than they normally do.

 

I got extremely nervous as I did not want my spouse to worry or think I was up to something. I showed my spouse the train schedule and my work schedule. I recieved a strange look in return. But it is SO important to me that my spouse have no fear, no suspicions etc. because I can't manage the guilt of what I did to Spouse 3 years ago. But I also think that my getting so nervous may actually CAUSE the suspicions because I'm acting guilty. Spouse may think I'm doing something NOW as opposed to my guilt being residual from three years ago. My real fear is that I'm not doing anything now, but spouse may think I am and I will have marriage trouble again.

 

I ask anyone who has been through this. My spouse is OK - why am I not OK? Does it come with time? Why do I still feel like such a horrible person all the time? Why do I still feel compelled to prove my everymove so spouse will not worry. I feel like if I give spouse reason to worry, I fly into an anxiety attack.

 

Has anyone else goen through this?

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Well Hon, what else would/should you expect? You committed the Ultimate Love Crime. You're dealing with guilt & spouse is dealing with trust. You both should seek marrige or professional counseling immediately!

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Gosh, I don't know. For me it's been over two years and I still feel guilty sometimes.

 

Individual counseling.

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I don't subscribe to guilt being healthy because I'm not sure it brings change... I think true conviction brings change which seems to be what you've been working on. What you've labeled guilt sounds like self condemnation and penance. Is there something in you that makes you believe you should somehow "pay" for this forever? You screwed up, you seem to have both made really healing strides to recovery.

 

I agree that individual counseling would be helpful in what you are still battling. Good luck to you.

 

Disclaimer: The above statement is one person's opinion, that's all, just an opinion.

 

Freinds: I am hoping you can give me some insight from your experience. I had an affair three years ago. It ended in disaster as I was caught. I was truly regretful for ALL of the events and fell into a deep depression for about 1 year over what I had done. I felt lower than low. I sought advice from everywhere including "marriagebuilders.com" and I wrestled with the whole idea of was I sorry I did it or sorry for the affair and trying to be honest with myself, could not tell. I listen to everyone say "Are you sorry about the affair or sorry you got caught?"

 

It's a tough question when it all first goes down because a person feels so much fear at the time. I felt like a horrible person and horrible people are only sorry when they get caught. Of course it would've been easier had I not been caught - but does that mean that my only regreat was that I was caught? It made me feel awful for more than a year. Now that the dust has settled, I feel better in that I can truly answer that question with that I'm truly sorry for the affair. I really wish it never happened as truly nothing was gained. Althought I thought I was in love, I realized later - I wasn't. I was reliving my seccond childhood or something.

 

Getting caught was VERY painful and what I really wish was that I ended the affair and healed my marriage on my own. But it is what it is and I'm just grateful the affair ended. I think to myself that everything happens for a reason and maybe I needed this big scary experience to shake the sense into me that I apparently so desparately needed. Maybe I never would've ended the affair had I not been caught, gone through a seperation or divorce or something else that I really didn't want, but didn't know it at the time - so if getting hit over the head with a brick is what I needed, so be it - it's what a big jerk like me needed.

 

Here's my question: The affair is long over. My spouse is even pretty much back to normal. But I can't live with my own guilt having hurt spouse so much - STILL. I find myself bending over backward to keep spouse happy. I cannot take it when spouse is not completely happy. I buy spouse expensive gifts, I let spouse quit the so spouse can follow a dream. I am the head of house hold now. I just can't take the guilt of the pain I caused, but I think I'm also going a little insame. I was leaving for work this morning and when I was saying "call ya when I get to work later" and kissing spouse goodbye, my spouse noticed my routine was a little different than normal. Spouse simply asked about it - like anyone would when they notice a person is doing something different than they normally do.

 

I got extremely nervous as I did not want my spouse to worry or think I was up to something. I showed my spouse the train schedule and my work schedule. I recieved a strange look in return. But it is SO important to me that my spouse have no fear, no suspicions etc. because I can't manage the guilt of what I did to Spouse 3 years ago. But I also think that my getting so nervous may actually CAUSE the suspicions because I'm acting guilty. Spouse may think I'm doing something NOW as opposed to my guilt being residual from three years ago. My real fear is that I'm not doing anything now, but spouse may think I am and I will have marriage trouble again.

 

I ask anyone who has been through this. My spouse is OK - why am I not OK? Does it come with time? Why do I still feel like such a horrible person all the time? Why do I still feel compelled to prove my everymove so spouse will not worry. I feel like if I give spouse reason to worry, I fly into an anxiety attack.

 

Has anyone else goen through this?

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RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE]

ARE YOU SEEING AT THERAPIST? ON MEDS? YOU ARE HEADINF RIGHT TWOARDS THE SAME THINGS THAT BROUGHT YOU THAT WONDERFUL AFFAIR

 

Freinds: I am hoping you can give me some insight from your experience. I had an affair three years ago. It ended in disaster as I was caught.

WHY A DISASTER? AS YOU SAY.,..BECAUSE YOU GOT CAUGHT[/

 

I was truly regretful for ALL of the events and fell into a deep depression for about 1 year over what I had done.

YOU SURE THE DEPRESSION WAS CAUSED BY REGRET? I DON’T THINK SO BECAUSE OF ALL THE RED FLAGS. I THINK IT WAS CAUSED BY THE ‘OVERWHELMING FEELINGS AND CRISIS DURING THE TIME YOU GOT ‘CAUGHT’

I felt lower than low. I sought advice from everywhere including "marriagebuilders.com" and I wrestled with the whole idea of was I sorry I did it or sorry for the affair and trying to be honest with myself, could not tell. ]I listen to everyone say "Are you sorry about the affair or sorry you got caught?" [sORRY BECAUSE THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT LEAD YOU TO HAVING AN AFFAIR]

THEY SHOULD BE ASKIONG YOU ‘HAVE YOU DONE THE WORK ON THOSE TRIGGERS?’[

It's a tough question when it all first goes down because a person feels so much fear at the time.

FEAR – TRIGGERS

GOOD YOU SEE A TRIGGER

I felt like a horrible person and horrible people are only sorry when they get caught. Of course it would've been easier had I not been caught - but does that mean that my only regreat was that I was caught?

 

FROM – LINKAGE - TO

 

]‘It made me feel awful for more than a year.

A WHOLE YEAR TO DECIDE AN CUT AND DRY MORAL ISSUE. AND YOU DON’T EVEN MENTION WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE – NOT HAVE THE AFFAIR

 

YOU SHOULD BE SORRY YOU CHOOSE HAVING AN AFFAIR AS A WAY TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS – HAVE U REALLY UNDERSTOOD WHY YOU DID IT YET

I really wish it never happened as truly nothing was gained.

WHY DID YOU THINK YOU WOULD “GAIN” BY HAVING AN AFFAIR

Althought I thought I was in love, I realized later - I wasn't. I was reliving my seccond childhood or something.

Getting caught was VERY painful

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- DOING IT SHOULD BE PAINFUL[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]and what I really wish was that I ended the affair and healed my marriage on my own. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…U SHOULD WISH YOU DIDN’T HAVE AN AFFAIR[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But it is what it is and I'm just grateful the affair ended. I think to myself that everything happens for a reason [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..THINGS HUST DON’T HAPPEN…TO DECIDED..THAT IS AN EXCUSE[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]OMG[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]OK…WHY YOU FEEL GUILTY[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Here's my question: The affair is long over. My spouse is even pretty much back to normal. But I can't live with my own guilt having hurt spouse so much - STILL.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOO, HE IS TACKLING HIS GUILT – FOCUS ON YERSELF – NOT HIM. YOU ARE TRANSFEREING AGAIN[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I find myself bending over backward to keep spouse happy.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/././THAT’S HIS JOB. YOU WILL FEEL INDEBTED…YOU SHOULD BE DOING THINGS THAT HELP PREVENT YOU BACK SIDING AGAIN [iNDEPENDENCE – NOT HAVING YOUR LIFE BECOME LOST DOING HIS STUFF/...YOU ARE DOING THE SAME THINGS AGAIN[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I cannot take it when spouse is not completely happy.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]SHIFT THE FOCUS[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I buy spouse expensive gifts[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..YOU DON’T BUY TRUST[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I let spouse quit the so spouse can follow a dream.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…EQUALITY…TEAMWORK..YOU WILL FEEL RECENTFUL[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I am the head of house hold now.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…POWER AND CONTRPOL ISSUES…EQUALITY[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] I just can't take the guilt of the pain I caused, but I think I'm also going a little insame. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING THE SAME STUFF – DON’T YOU SEE THIS[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I was leaving for work this morning and when I was saying "call ya when I get to work later" and kissing spouse goodbye, my spouse noticed my routine was a little different than normal. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…PROJECTION OF YER FEELINGS ON TO HIM[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Spouse simply asked about it - like anyone would when they notice a person is doing something different than they normally do. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]ASUMPTION……….NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NEGATIVE[/COLOR][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]I got extremely nervous as I did not want my spouse to worry or think I was up to something. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]GUILT – NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I showed my spouse the train schedule and my work schedule. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…HE DOES OWN U..TRUST IS BUILT NOT BY OWNERSHIP BUT BY SHOWING YOUR INDEPENDENCE…THIS ISN’T GRADE SCHOOL[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]YOU ARE AN ADULT[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I recieved a strange look in return. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]ASSUMPTION[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But it is SO important to me that my spouse have no fear, no suspicions etc. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…THAT’;S HIS JOB..IT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT YOU DON’T HAVE THESE THINGS…AND YOU DO[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]ecause I can't manage the guilt of what I did to Spouse 3 years ago. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…YOU DID IT TO YERSELF[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But I also think that my getting so nervous may actually CAUSE the suspicions because I'm acting guilty. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOO…NEGATIVE ASSIMPTIONS[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Spouse may think I'm doing something NOW as opposed to my guilt being residual from three years ago. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]WORRYIONG. OVERANALYISING…THINKING ABOUT WHAT HE THINKS INSTEWAD OF WHAT YOU THINK PROHECTIOOOOOOOOOOOOOON[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]My real fear is that I'm not doing anything now, but spouse may think I am and I will have marriage trouble again.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]FEAR- THOUGHT YOU SW THAT AS A TRIGGER[/COLOR][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=black]I ask anyone who has been through this. My spouse is OK - why am I not OK?[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I JUST SHOWED YOU[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] Does it come with time? Why do I still feel like such a horrible person all the time? [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOO…GET POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Why do I still feel compelled to prove my everymove so spouse will not worry. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO….YOU DON’T PROVE…YOU JUST DO[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I feel like if I give spouse reason to worry, I fly into an anxiety attack.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]PROJECTION…YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF SETTING UP ANOTHER FALL[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]this is all related to things [illnesses] you should be aware of right?[/FONT][/COLOR]

Posted

You have to forgive yourself and learn how to trust, love and respect yourself now.

 

Your spouse has given you a second chance and, that's a good thing!

 

Seek therapy to help you through this.

 

PS Sidenote - Everlong, not sure what fonts you were trying to use, but man, reading what you wrote was a challenge!

Posted

I was cheated on and I would have loved some of that special treatment and for my Wife to show that she was truly sorry for what she did. But that's a big hell no. My Wife has a hard time understanding that she actually does wrong, ever. In her mind it's always someone else’s fault. If she's cornered or straight up got caught she will glance over it and all of a sudden it's "IN THE PAST". To me the past comes only after years of a noticeable change and I (the person done wrong) decide when enough is enough.

I don't rub my Wife's nose in it anymore, but I did for a while.

 

You seem to be truly sorry and bending over backwards to make up for what you've done. GOOD JOB. I also think it's a good thing that you are conscious if not a bit overly conscious of your actions and the way they may be perceived. I give you much credit for that, I think that's great.

 

Guilt for doing someone else wrong that didn't deserve it, is natural. The fact that you care, shows that although you had a moment of weakness you are generally a good person with a heart and a conscience. Some people don't give a sh_t about others feelings.

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Posted
:cool: Well I must say that my wife has pasted away and many years have gone since her betrayal. For a long time I thought it was all a memory. Well toni I thought of all the deceit and cruelty to me and I know it's wrong but this evening, I just hate her, so much.
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Guest, I'm going to copy something I posted to another woman who had an affair and could not get past her wrong doing. I believe this applies to you as well:

 

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As well you need to close this chapter in your life and move on. To stop being haunted by what has happened in the past. You have learned from this experience on what is important and by taking this as something you've learned from is something positive.

 

No one is perfect, you, me nor anyone else on here. We've all made mistakes and we'll continue to. We are only human. Even saints have sinned at some point in their life.

 

Forgiving yourself doesn't means you are letting yourself get away with whatever it was you did. It means allowing yourself to start over in certain areas of your life. By doing this you will allow yourself to pursue happiness again.

 

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By you concentrating so much on the past you are being pull away on your focus towards the future with your wife. That's one of the great things about love that mistakes can be forgiven. I believe you need to find acceptance within' yourself. Your wife has already given hers to you. If this is truly become a barrier in your life I believe some counseling might help you. It's ok to make mistakes :)

 

Just concentrate on improving the communication between you and your wife and things will turn out fine.

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