I want to buy a gun

[burning 4 revenge]

Some of you on here know me, others have never had the good fortune of getting to know me. Those of you who know me, know some of my problems and don't want to hear about them anymore. That's okay, I don't feel like writing about them. I really don't ,I'm not just saying that for your benefit. I mean I don't even know you, really. So why would I spare you the grief, if not soley to spare myself the aggravation?

 

Aside from what I b8tch about on a daily basis, which you have heard ad-nauseum (and if you haven't then sorry I can't re-iterate) I have other problems as well. Money problems, work problems, height problems, strength problems...but it all comes down to one fundamental problem; the lack of power. Power is everything in our society. It's been the main focus of any society that has ever been successful since the inception of written history. All of the societies that have focused on altruism have vanished, stomped under the boot of those who worshiped power.

 

So- in this power-maddened society in this power-dominated universe how does one who lacks power cope with his existence.

 

That's why I want to buy a gun. One that chaffs my thigh like a steel erection. I'm thinking of a Magnum maybe. The ultimate bloodletter... I want to sit alone in my little hovel at night and stare at it. Polish the bullets. Fondle the shaft...dreaming of one day pointing it up at the sky and pressing the trigger into the face of the great invisible crucifier....

 

And we'll see if that huknozed b8ch keeps calling me a f7git

[magichands]

Sorry...but haven't you ever watched MacGyver? That dude is always outsmarting people - and he hates guns. (Yes, I know he's a fictional character.)

 

I suggest that you put your mind to much better use. Any "power" you seek via steel erections is purely illusory. Make , not war.

 

 

So go ahead and shoot, but couldn't you improvise a much more creative death for me?!

[Blackfrost]

Here's another one to add to your list: you are illiterate in l337 speak

 

huknozed b8ch keeps calling me a f7git

 

the correct translation is

 

|-|00|< |\|053D b17(|-| |<33P5 (4LL1|\|9 /\/\3 4 Ph49907

 

Sorry, couldn't resist haha

[Craig]

All of the societies that have focused on altruism have vanished, stomped under the boot of those who worshiped power.

And what happened to the societies that worshiped power?

 

Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad with power.

- Charles A. Beard

 

[Sand&Water]

Burning_4_revenge,

 

Do you truly want a gun? Or do you need a gun?

 

There is a difference between wanting and needing. Either way, though, a gun will not hide; compensate; reduce; conceal your problems.

 

In the end, you will be the one sitting alone in your little hovel at night -hole in soul and troubles in mind.

 

You will not accomplish much. You are on the road to self-destruction.

 

Sand&Water

[bluetuesday]

I have other problems as well. Money problems, work problems, height problems, strength problems...but it all comes down to one fundamental problem; the lack of power.

 

ah, the simplicity of hooking onto an idea about power, or lack of, and thinking if you turned that around everything would be somehow alright.

 

this is an illusion, b4r. i know it is a 'powerful' illusion but it is fake nonetheless. money isn't power. the right job (or any job) isn't power. being tall isn't power, being strong isn't power.

 

the true power is in realising that power in the way you mean it, is an illusion. there is no 'power'. there are only people for whom being important is important enough to make a negative difference.

 

Power is everything in our society. It's been the main focus of any society that has ever been successful since the inception of written history.

 

all of those societies you think are powerful have self-destructed, or are in the process of doing so. it is impossible for a society that is built on corruption, the subjugation of the masses or violence to thrive permanently. impossible. there is not one example of it.

 

the roman empire was incredibly powerful 2,000 years ago and that power lasted for hundreds of years. if power begets power and power rules all, why doesn't the roman empire still exist? ideas of power are transitory. men become powerful for a time - it passes. which should prove to you that power isn't real. if it was, it would last.

 

All of the societies that have focused on altruism have vanished, stomped under the boot of those who worshiped power.

 

i have loads to say to you on this, but i'll be brief. your perspective is skewed by your belief that power is the answer. in reality, there are many examples of millions of people living in societies that have existed for several thousand years quite happily being buddhist (for example) and not hurting anyone, with no sign they're about to implode. no society you can name, not one, has lasted longer than buddhism and killed less people. but that's not what sells papers. i should know. i'm a journalist.

 

you may not know about these societies because it's not sexy, they don't have big shiny guns, and the message that power is everything is designed to prevent you from knowing the alternative.

 

So- in this power-maddened society in this power-dominated universe how does one who lacks power cope with his existence.

 

you realise that power, in the way you tell it, is an illusion. you realise that true, lasting power is not in the market for a huge steel erection.

 

gandhi was one of the most powerful men of the 20th century. he preached non-violence and godly devotion. and he made the so-called powerful british empire with its thousands of commanders get the hell out of his country by simply refusing to take no for an answer, by inspiring the masses to peacefully protest against foreign rule, by preaching love and service and by believing in a better way. that, my friend, is power.

[lindya]

I want to sit alone in my little hovel at night and stare at it. Polish the bullets. Fondle the shaft...dreaming of one day pointing it up at the sky and pressing the trigger into the face of the great invisible crucifier....

 

 

I read that, and thought "there's B4R having a laugh again". Then I realised that most of the problems I've encountered in life stem from my inability to realise that sometimes people aren't just having a laugh.

 

Which is it?

 

 

So- in this power-maddened society in this power-dominated universe how does one who lacks power cope with his existence.

 

One of the things I like about your contributions to this board, B4R, is that you openly acknowledge your human weaknesses, failings and slightly psychotic sounding desires. Too many people employ elaborate denial devices because they're primarily interested in making themselves sound good rather than being brutally honest about who they are.

 

The question is, where are all these feelings taking you? Where's the line between just kidding around, and actually doing something f*cked up? Are you able to draw that line? If you're not sure, then by God you need to get yourself to a therapist sharpish.

 

You have power, which you're just electing not to use. You have the power to get over this obsession with Gigi, and you have the power to reduce the ways in which you behave self destructively. For whatever reason, right now you evidently find the power image of you sitting on a bed polishing bullets more seductive. Why is that? And why do people polish bullets? Is it some sort of mark of respect for the victim...or is it the same desire for control, order and predictability that makes people hygiene and tidiness obsessives?

[stoopid_guy]

A well-made gun is a beautiful tool, a thing to be admired just like a well-engineered car, a well-balanced hammer, sharp kitchen knives, etc. If you want one, get one. Consider though the legality of where you live and where you can go to shoot.

 

Does it make you powerful? Not really. That handgun is no more lethal than the car practically every adult owns (think about a few thousand pounds of machine capable of going 100+ mph while carrying over a hundred pounds of explosive liquid.)

[Adunaphel]

I think that if you actually bough a gun you'd feel excited while buying it and carrying it at home....you'll probably feel nice for anothe couple of days... enjoy holding, polishing and looking at it for no longer than that... then all the excitement will be gone and you'll start worrying about how much more responsability you are faced with now that you own a potentially deadly weapon.

 

I once bought a weapon (not a gun) for similar reasons... sitting in my house holding it and looking at it did not give me *any* sense of power.

So I basically wasted over 100$ for an item that I don't use, will probably never use and I can't carry around.

 

Have you considered going somewhere you can shoot a gun (as a sport) instead of buying one?

So you don't have to worry about legal hassles about owning one, you get to shoot, and, well, if you ever wake up feeling like doing stupid things (of any kind)at least you don't have a gun at hand.

[Guest]

You are skirting around the real issue. You gave your power away and refuse to take it back. Instead, you invested it in someone and left it with her. You could buy a cannon and it wouldn't change a thing.

 

You want power? Go see a therapist and understand how to claim your own life back. As others pointed out, your impressions of the impressiveness of power are sadly skewed. People who think guns or large vehicles or acts of violence make them 'powerful' are buffoons - and the wise know it. Nobody respects the schoolyard bully. The United States is the focus of hate and ridicule throughout the world due to its behaviour.

 

Another poster last night was blaming someone else for his own weakness in falling for some woman and remaining hooked on her even though she was bad for him. This is dysfunctional behaviour. It's entirely to you to fix - not with weapons or violence but with therapy, with learning the flaws of your own thinking, and with putting yourselves right.

[SoCalCatman72]

B4R, I don't know if your post is a joke or not. Regardless, let me tell you my personal story about guns.

 

A long time ago in a land far away........ha ha. I used to own dozens of guns. Shotguns, rifles, 'assault' rifles, revolvers, autoloaders, even some strange survival rifles. I too used to hold them, clean them, carefully examine the bullets in the magazine. I had thousands of rounds of ammunition, cleaning kits, scopes, extra magazines, high capacity magazines, and a lifetime membership to the NRA. I spent tens of thousands of dollars on this 'hobby'.

 

I believe my obsession with guns was a psychological response to my own feelings of inadequacy. After all, isn't the gun the great equalizer, a phallus of metal and plastic. Or as Chairman Mao said "True power comes from the barrel of a gun"

 

However, with great power comes great responsibility (SpiderMan), and I was irresponsible, as such I no longer have those weapons.

 

Since then and now, I have come to understand a lot of things about myself and my environment. I started taking martial arts and working out. I got deeply involved in ministry and reaching out to those at risk or in need, and in doing so, I realized that the greatest and truest power on the face of this planet is the power of love for God, one another and oneself.

 

Love can move mountains, and no gun (heck nothing short of a tactical nuke) can match that.

 

So, ask yourself again, why do you want a gun.

[Craig]

Hey B4R I agree with the "power is an illusion" people, the "novelty will wear off people" and the "gun isn't that powerful compared to a car" people.

 

It's true that the construction of a gun can be considered beautiful when you consider what went into making one. Hey, one of my hobbies is working with metal and building cute little precision objects that have no use except to give me pleasure when I look at them and appreciate the skills that went into making them.

 

Think about it for a second (I know you can do it ), the so-called power that a gun provides is, at best, fleeting and false. A gun does not provide power for any length of time. Using the power of a gun (not you) has irreversible consequences that can strip you of any potential for meaningful power for the rest of your natural life.

 

Awww now that sucks doesn't it? Guns = power but using a gun to obtain (false) power = no power. Krap. Catch-22.

 

You want power B4R? Do you really want power or just the "hollywood illusion" of power making everything in your life right? Real power comes with challenges and responsibilities that over time can be hard to adhere to unless your sense of self pervades every aspect of your life.

 

You already have the power you are looking for within you but you just haven't learned to use it. Instead you do the same damned thing over and over again and wonder why things don't change.

 

My Rx for change? Get safely out of your comfort zone, don't go putting yourself or others in danger but do things that you normally wouldn't do because you fear them or don't see a reason to do them. Do something to challenge yourself everyday and the power you seek will come to you.

[stoopid_guy]

Another suggestion B4R... A decent handgun's going to cost you several hundred bucks, thought about buying something else instead? A good digital camera can be used in more places, gets you out in the world, won't intimidate anyone, and might even catch some lady's attention.

 

Or how about marshal arts? Healthy, a "better" sense of power, and you'll meet some interesting new people.

[Craig]

Another suggestion B4R... A decent handgun's going to cost you several hundred bucks, thought about buying something else instead? A good digital camera can be used in more places, gets you out in the world, won't intimidate anyone, and might even catch some lady's attention.

 

Or how about marshal arts? Healthy, a "better" sense of power, and you'll meet some interesting new people.

Get a dog, dogs always get people talking to you...

[Jizzosh]

That steel erection part was pretty funny..Since I don't know your problems, I hope you don't wanna shoot someone. How old are you anyways? I'd say start lifting the weights. You'll eventually pick up a keeper at the gym, and you'll have a common interest. Plus I hear sex is so much better between two healthy toned people.

[burning 4 revenge]

Burning_4_revenge,

 

Do you truly want a gun? Or do you need a gun?

Yeah, I do.

 

And I wish I could grow my hair out long, but it's thinning on top. I look in the mirror holding a handheld mirror and stare at my reflected mirror image of the crown reflecting in the mirror and I know if I had a gun in my pants your eyes will be mesmerized by the bulge.

[whichwayisup]

I can't tell if you're messin' around or completely serious about this gun thing.

 

For the hair, look into transplants or try that drug Rogain (?)

For your bulge, use a sock!

 

Anyway, don't do anything dumb, k.

[Angel291]

I would be very careful about buying a gun. While I do not deny anyone the right to own a gun, I would look very closely at your motives for owning one. If they are not the right motives, you are setting yourself up for potential disaster.

 

Case in point: a man I knew briefly a few years ago, through a friend, recently was killed in his own home. He owned guns, lots of them. He was also a very paranoid person with a lot of issues. He was not a bad person, but I would question his motives for having these guns. At any rate, he recently went off his rocker and when some police showed up at his house to arrest him for failing to show up to a court date, he got his guns and began shooting at the police! (I think he intentionally missed them and was trying to scare them away.)

 

As a result, the police began firing bullets into his house. They threw gas into the house and eventually used a army tank to ram his house, knocking down the walls. They found him dead inside from a bullet under a pile of rubble, and it looks like the bullet he died from was when the police were shooting into the house although I am not sure.

 

My point is that he semed to have had issues he was trying to relieve with the owning of guns. When he finally snapped, it was to his own detriment that there were guns in his house.

 

You just never know how things will go in life so just be very careful about why you want to own a gun.

[jerbear]

Honestly the Magnums and 45's are a little on the heavy side with a nasty kick! I would suggest a Pea shooter for short range and if you miss alot, I suggest one with semi mode. You mentioned weight, height, and other issues.

 

Now besides having one, are you prepared to use it!? Many people have one to just say they have one. It is another thing to polish it and sleep with it.

 

It is another thing to being prepared to discharge it because of hostilities against you. Know where the key or combination to the locks are. Better yet, know how to turn off the safety!

 

Having one is just a facade to larger issues, now if you are planning on shooting and practicing as a new hobby. By all means you are free to excercise your 2nd amendement of your Bill of Rights for hobby or just because you can own one.

 

Power wanes over time and there is always someone more powerful. The best forms of power are those that are NOT seen. Power maybe delegated to them or they are puppets.

 

I suggest redirectly the resources to working out for "power." Apply to new jobs, work out, or even learn a new hobby. Hobby as in marksmanship.

[norajane]

I went target shooting a few times at a range. Woohoo, can't even begin to tell you how exhilarating that felt! It was truly an amazing experience to load, aim, and fire, and feel the kickback from the explosion in my hands. It's actually quite calming as well, since it forces you to focus completely on what you're doing and only on what you're doing, your breathing, and the target...a little like yoga.

 

I did this as part of a woman's self-defense course. They taught us that you never pick up a weapon and point it at anything unless you're planning to fire it. And they taught us a lot of things about gun safety. My suggestion would be to take a gun safety course and practice firing at a range for a while before considering buying one of your own.

 

As for power, that comes from within, sweets. We all have it, an explosion waiting to happen, but we have to access it. A gun doesn't help you access your power. Your heart and mind are the only things that can do that.

[RecordProducer]

Burning, I am amazed at how you analyze your personality, but not so much at how you think you can solve the problem of power. A gun will not solve anything. It might be a good hobby if you're going to practice, but I don't think this is about it in your case.

 

I think you should turn to yourself and change your perspective of the self that suffers first. I recommend "Unconditional Life" by Dr. Deepak Chopra, a book that I am reading right now. Very fun and easy to read, very eyes-opening about certain things. You start seeing things from above, you realize that happiness doesn't come from artificially set goals, and you can enjoy life without the pressure of conditions being put upon you by external factors. It's a book about freedom, about how to remove the obstacles that chain your mind and see the offered paths more clearly. Then you can set new goals. Or you can set the old goals with a greater ease and more faith. You can enjoy the journey of achieving them rather than desperately expecting the results.

 

You are concentrating on the wrong things - how to have power over people. You never have had it, you never will. I never've had it, I never will. If I had it, I didn't use it. If I have it, I don't need it. Thank you. I need power over myself only. That power will help me fight or let things go; say NO when I mean YES and say NO when I mean NO; go embrace the whole world or tell them all that they suck.

 

The pain is a great creator and you should use that. Love and desire have given me the power to fight, to be patient, to have peace, to correct myself and my twisted view of this world. Concentrating on good things brings new good things and helps you release the bad things.

 

You can run away from people, but you can't run away from yourself. If you feel powerless, no gun will make it up for you.

[burning 4 revenge]

When I was young I once believed in Santa Claus and true love and the immortality of the soul, but now I stare at the wall and make shadow puppets with my hands in the form of a gun

[RecordProducer]

When I was young I once believed in Santa Claus and true love and the immortality of the soul, but now I stare at the wall and make shadow puppets with my hands in the form of a gun

So you used to believe in Santa, but now you believe in a gun? (I hope you understand that my sarcasm is not against you; it's just a weak attempt to cheer you up .)

 

Anyway, you mentioned all the earthy pleasures that you lack such as love, money or self-esteem... Why look for something that will not bring you any of it? Just read the f-ing book, it only has 269 pages.

 

Perhaps you're depressed and need to see a doctor?

 

Look, I do agree with you that we need external things to make us happy, but once you find peace within yourself, the external factors will be easier to conrtol, which will give you the feeling of power.

[burning 4 revenge]

Burning, I am amazed at how you analyze your personality, but not so much at how you think you can solve the problem of power. A gun will not solve anything. It might be a good hobby if you're going to practice, but I don't think this is about it in your case.

 

I think you should turn to yourself and change your perspective of the self that suffers first. I recommend "Unconditional Life" by Dr. Deepak Chopra, a book that I am reading right now. Very fun and easy to read, very eyes-opening about certain things. You start seeing things from above, you realize that happiness doesn't come from artificially set goals, and you can enjoy life without the pressure of conditions being put upon you by external factors. It's a book about freedom, about how to remove the obstacles that chain your mind and see the offered paths more clearly. Then you can set new goals. Or you can set the old goals with a greater ease and more faith. You can enjoy the journey of achieving them rather than desperately expecting the results.

 

You are concentrating on the wrong things - how to have power over people. You never have had it, you never will. I never've had it, I never will. If I had it, I didn't use it. If I have it, I don't need it. Thank you. I need power over myself only. That power will help me fight or let things go; say NO when I mean YES and say NO when I mean NO; go embrace the whole world or tell them all that they suck.

 

The pain is a great creator and you should use that. Love and desire have given me the power to fight, to be patient, to have peace, to correct myself and my twisted view of this world. Concentrating on good things brings new good things and helps you release the bad things.

 

You can run away from people, but you can't run away from yourself. If you feel powerless, no gun will make it up for you.

 

Are you offended by that new movie where Ali G plays a reporter from Yugoslavia?

[johan]

I own a hunting rifle and a .22. No handguns. I was trained in the proper use and handling of them when I was a kid, but it's been years and the lessons have faded. And so it takes me time when handling them to get the habits back. Until those habits return I feel awkward and a bit nervous with them.

 

There are things you need to think about like when to have the safety on and when it's ok to have it off, how to walk with it, how to clean it, how to store it, how to hand it to another person, how to handle it in the presence of others, how to load it, how to safely unload it, how to hold it when firing it. If you think these things are trivial, then remind yourself how many people are killed accidently by mishandled firearems. Just a slip is all it takes.

 

I remember the story of someone who was killed sitting and watching TV in his apartment, because the idiot guy next door was messing around with a gun and it went off. The bullet went through the wall and killed his neighbor.

 

The average person can walk in and buy a firearm and never get any training at all in how to handle them. People aren't even required to know how they operate. I recommend a hunters' saftey course and I recommend you commit to using in on a range regularly, or else don't buy it. They really aren't toys or something to be bought on a whim. Having one just to keep it in a drawer is dumb and unsafe.