BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Nope, not gonna tell you how I feel when my phone makes that sound. Nope, not gonna tell you how I feel when I know you're getting on a plane. Nope, not gonna tell you how I feel thinking that your plane should be landing about now. Nope, not gonna tell you how I feel knowing it's not me you're going to see when you you make your way toward your car. Nope, not gonna tell you how I feel. Nope, not gonna tell you about how I felt when I laughed when you told me that the butler cried. Nope. Not gonna do it. Everything happens for a reason. Every ONE happens for a reason. Each person we come across, there is a reason they crossed our path. I suppose an "enlightened" person would be able to just sit back, enjoy the journey, and eventually, understand just what it is that each person brought to our lives. . . . .
magichands Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Everything happens for a reason. It does if we can learn something from our mistakes. Sometimes I haven't. So be a little careful with the generalities, please.
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 It does if we can learn something from our mistakes. Sometimes I haven't. So be a little careful with the generalities, please. I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean?
Guest Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Everything happens for a reason. Yeah only sometimes the reason is more of an excuse than an actual reason, not saying about your case as I don't know it, just saying in general.
magichands Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean? Sorry. I guess I wrote that for no particular reason. No hard feelings, okay?
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 Oh no, not at all. I was just wondering what you meant, truly. Are there mistakes you feel you haven't learned from?
superconductor Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Everything happens for a reason. Every ONE happens for a reason. Each person we come across, there is a reason they crossed our path... Absolute nonsense. Life is wonderful and chaotic and infuriating and unfair. But a reason behind it all? Only the reasons we create for ourselves. To believe otherwise is folly, as if we're puppets dancing on some supernatural strings.
alphamale Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 what exactly is the point trying to be made here??
magichands Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 what exactly is the point trying to be made here?? That - in some cases - the past is best left there, perhaps. Since when did LS have a point??
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 Oh, fine. If you're going to make me give it a point - it's that, EVERYthing, good, bad, ugly, happens for a reason. All those experiences are the sum of who we are. I certainly would not like to really know someone who's had a smooth, birds-chirping, sun-shining all the time, kind of life. I think a wise person embraces the hard times as well as the good times. And, believe me, SC, I have my days where I'm like, pthhh. whatEVER, I don't want to hear that everything happens for a reason CRAP. My mom died way too young, where is the REASON in that??? But then, there are days, when certain things happen, maybe I helped someone, maybe someone helped me, where I'm like OH! NOW I get it...
GreenEyedLady Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 I think the point trying to be made is that there is a reason for everything that happens...before everyone starts jumping down other people's throats, think about this...you realize that your SO is the love of your life...you realize that you have saved your M and become stronger as a partnership...you realize your capacity for love... I am in no way saying that A are good and a wonderful thing (they are quite destructive)...I am just saying that they are a wake up call...it's what you do with them that matters...IMO
GreenEyedLady Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 BTDT: We wre writing at the same time so I didn't see what you already said til now...
magichands Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 I certainly would not like to really know someone who's had a smooth, birds-chirping, sun-shining all the time, kind of life. Well, that's just fine by me. But why is that my fault?! I can't help that I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth! Does that make me less of a person??
alphamale Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 I think the point trying to be made is that there is a reason for everything that happens... I don't agree with that...some things happen for a reason and some things do not. End of story.
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 Yeah only sometimes the reason is more of an excuse than an actual reason, not saying about your case as I don't know it, just saying in general. If by "excuse" you mean that there's a reason to learn that just because you want something--or someone--that doesn't mean you can have it. Or that there's a reason to learn what it's like to have your heart broken so you can be more aware of someone else's heart and take care not to do the same to them. Man, don't you just love the GUESTS????
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 Well, that's just fine by me. But why is that my fault?! I can't help that I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth! Does that make me less of a person?? Who says anything is your fault? Are you picking on me?
whichwayisup Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 I'm not sure if ALL things happen for a reason, but I do believe SOME things happen for a reason, or certain people come in and out of your life for a reason. Though, with that being said, we're all capable of making choices, so really, there is no real path set in stone for anybody. Most of what happens between people is by choice, and that's a fact. I don't get why my father got cancer, and died. I'm sorry for the loss of your mom.
magichands Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Are you picking on me? Nope. I'm just saying. I'm sorry about your mother, too.
GreenEyedLady Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 BTDT: Yeah, I love the "guests" too...I guess they like being "mysterious"... Some people believe in predestination, others don't...I'm not advocating one point over another I was just giving my interpretation of what the post meant...
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 No, I totally agree with you WWIU....Free Will - it's what separates us from the animals. It's an "argument" I get into with my religious friends all the time. So, say I did a dumb thing. Like, oh just for instance, fell in love with a married man. Stupid thing to do, right? BUT, once it was over, I came out of it a much stronger person. Became enraged (at myself more than anything) enough to make changes. Enough to prove to people that I was smarter than that. So I signed up for classes I had no intention of signing up for, looked for ways to improve myself; where before I had no idea I needed improving. Now. Maybe I would have done those things without having made those mistakes first. However, in order to not hate myself, I tell myself that, 'had it not been for that experience, I would not have thought there was a reason to improve myself.' That's what I mean when I say 'everything happens for a reason'.
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 I think the point trying to be made is that there is a reason for everything that happens...before everyone starts jumping down other people's throats, think about this...you realize that your SO is the love of your life...you realize that you have saved your M and become stronger as a partnership...you realize your capacity for love... I am in no way saying that A are good and a wonderful thing (they are quite destructive)...I am just saying that they are a wake up call...it's what you do with them that matters...IMO Thank you GEL -- Exactly!!
magichands Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 So, say I did a dumb thing. Like, oh just for instance, fell in love with a married man. Stupid thing to do, right? BUT, once it was over, I came out of it a much stronger person. Became enraged (at myself more than anything) enough to make changes. Good for you! Enough to prove to people that I was smarter than that. I think that you only needed to prove it to yourself.
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 You're so right, Magic. To prove it to myself is what mattered most.
Author BenThereDunThat Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 I'm not sure if ALL things happen for a reason, but I do believe SOME things happen for a reason, or certain people come in and out of your life for a reason. Though, with that being said, we're all capable of making choices, so really, there is no real path set in stone for anybody. Most of what happens between people is by choice, and that's a fact. I don't get why my father got cancer, and died. I'm sorry for the loss of your mom. I know, WWIU. I'm sorry for the loss of your dad. There are lots of days I don't get why my mom got cancer and died either. My mom always tried to drill it into my head how important it was to love yourself, that you couldn't ever truly love someone until you did that. She also used to tell me how important it was to live on my own, know myself, like myself, before I could really share my life with someone else. See, she left her parents home to marry my dad (who was with her until the very last breath). I didn't really get what she was saying all those years. I used to struggle with depression. The weirdest thing. After she died, I GOT IT. Suddenly, I understood everything she had been trying to tell me. I no longer give in to my depression - if for no other reason than to honor her. She always said it was her job to raise happy, independent adults. I feel like I do her a disservice if I don't do my best to be all that -- and hopefully more.
whichwayisup Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 You're very strong! You're mom would be real proud of you. It's weird, I never had any anxiety issues, and after my dad died 13 years ago I didn't either...But as I get older, I find I've had more fears, anxiety about life. I'm getting help for it now, and doing so much better, but I still have days that can be rough ones. Good to hear that you're not giving into the depression. I've had mild bouts of feeling blah, and I do react to the changes in light as the winter months hit us, but I have a SAD light to help when we change the clocks next month.
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