Woggle Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 My wife has a vibrator and while many men are insecure about them I understand her need to poke her twat sometimes. She also undeerstands my need to hang with the guys while looking at naked women and getting drunk. In no way is either cheating and secure partner knows that.
Adunaphel Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I respectfully disagree - imo it's like comparing apples and orange. I would say that vibrators might be not different than inflatable dolls (or rubber vaginas (I saw some of those in a sex-shop) *and* quite a lot of lube), though.
a4a Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 hell yeah!! Now of course the vibrator will be attached to a living hot man right? He will do a little dance for me while holding the vibrator? Yeah they are exactly the same thing.... yep..... Just like screwing a pocket pu$$y would be the same as having a naked guy rub all over a woman. Nice try but one is alive and one is an object. I have to wonder Woggle if your wife read these man vs woman posts what would she think?
Author Woggle Posted September 22, 2006 Author Posted September 22, 2006 hell yeah!! Now of course the vibrator will be attached to a living hot man right? He will do a little dance for me while holding the vibrator? Yeah they are exactly the same thing.... yep..... Just like screwing a pocket pu$$y would be the same as having a naked guy rub all over a woman. Nice try but one is alive and one is an object. I have to wonder Woggle if your wife read these man vs woman posts what would she think? I don't hide my views from her. She knows how I feel and she knows I am not talking about her.
blind_otter Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 My wife has a vibrator and while many men are insecure about them I understand her need to poke her twat sometimes. She also undeerstands my need to hang with the guys while looking at naked women and getting drunk. In no way is either cheating and secure partner knows that. These things are not comparable. If it were porn I might agree with you, but live strippers involve interpersonal interaction, so no. They are not the same at all. Now if the vibrator were wielded by a hot dude, who masturbated women for money, then yeah -- the two scenarios would be comparable. So does your W have a hot all nude vibrator handler?
Touche Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 "These things are not comparable. If it were porn I might agree with you, but live strippers involve interpersonal interaction, so no. They are not the same at all." Gotta agree with BO on this one! It's not at ALL the same. Now, if we went to the strip club TOGETHER, fine..but alone or with other guys, no. Are your guy friends married?
a4a Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I don't hide my views from her. She knows how I feel and she knows I am not talking about her. Well I am kinda getting sick of you lumping me and others into your idea that all woman suck..... its getting old buddy. Perhaps your constant attitude about women in general make the majority just loathe you. So you feel so rejected by them that you do this constant "woman suck" soap box crap. Dude it is not women that suck...... it is your attitude about them that sucks. Go to therapy...... you are as bad as any racist could ever be.
Author Woggle Posted September 22, 2006 Author Posted September 22, 2006 "These things are not comparable. If it were porn I might agree with you, but live strippers involve interpersonal interaction, so no. They are not the same at all." Gotta agree with BO on this one! It's not at ALL the same. Now, if we went to the strip club TOGETHER, fine..but alone or with other guys, no. Are your guy friends married? Some are married and some are not but we get together and do guy stuff sometimes and that includes strip clubs.
Author Woggle Posted September 22, 2006 Author Posted September 22, 2006 Well I am kinda getting sick of you lumping me and others into your idea that all woman suck..... its getting old buddy. Perhaps your constant attitude about women in general make the majority just loathe you. So you feel so rejected by them that you do this constant "woman suck" soap box crap. Dude it is not women that suck...... it is your attitude about them that sucks. Go to therapy...... you are as bad as any racist could ever be. If you do not fit my description of the women I can't stand then don't take offense. I am just honest about gender issues. I don't bite my tongue and some take it as misogyny.
Touche Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Some are married and some are not but we get together and do guy stuff sometimes and that includes strip clubs. How low class...
SmoochieFace Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 My wife has a vibrator and while many men are insecure about them I understand her need to poke her twat sometimes. She also undeerstands my need to hang with the guys while looking at naked women and getting drunk. In no way is either cheating and secure partner knows that. If your wife needs to have her twat 'poked' then you should be doing the poking not the vibrator. I agree that her using it isn't 'cheating' but perhaps her use of it may be an indicator that you aren't spending enough time with her sexually. Way I see it... if my wife/GF is sexually satisfied then she would have no need for any 'supplemental aids'.
blind_otter Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I am just honest about gender issues. I don't bite my tongue and some take it as misogyny. I have a huge problem with the bolded statement. Because this is your problem, woggle, and why you need help dealing with it. You actually sincerely believe that you are honest about these things, and you cannot perceive how warped and twisted your views are.....that's really bad! Even in the face of constant information to the contrary, you still believe that you have a good grasp of gender issues and cannot accept how your past and your mother and exwife have warped you, and possibly affected your quality of life!
Guest Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 you are as bad as any racist could ever be Except that badmouthing women is still perfectly acceptable. Especially on this board.
superconductor Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Wog, buddy, strip clubs and vibrators/dildos aren't even in the same league. Vibrators don't extort money out of a guy for the sake of some unfulfilled promise of sexual gratification. Vibrators don't exploit the user like strip clubs and strippers do. And vibrators don't make much noise, whereas strip clubs are just TOO FREAKIN LOUD!
a4a Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 If you do not fit my description of the women I can't stand then don't take offense. I am just honest about gender issues. I don't bite my tongue and some take it as misogyny. No you are only honest about your perception of gender issues. Imagine if someone had to hear from the same person about how rotten a certain race of people are....... over and over and over again. It gets so old. Yeah some women suck.... so what.... some men suck...... and some men suck men.. and some women suck men and women...... Why do you have the need to continue to try to validate yourself and your marriage by starting man vs woman threads? "my wife is different"....... over and over again. Who are you trying to convince? Yeah my H is different too...... he does not look at porn but I don't feel the need to start threads....... Men suck that watch porn, but mine does not! sheesh!!!
Author Woggle Posted September 22, 2006 Author Posted September 22, 2006 No you are only honest about your perception of gender issues. Imagine if someone had to hear from the same person about how rotten a certain race of people are....... over and over and over again. It gets so old. Yeah some women suck.... so what.... some men suck...... and some men suck men.. and some women suck men and women...... Why do you have the need to continue to try to validate yourself and your marriage by starting man vs woman threads? "my wife is different"....... over and over again. Who are you trying to convince? Yeah my H is different too...... he does not look at porn but I don't feel the need to start threads....... Men suck that watch porn, but mine does not! sheesh!!! Women trash men all the time left and right. It is common in our culture that nobody notices so I figure if women can dish it they should be able to take it. A secure woman knows I am not talking about her personally and does not get angry.
a4a Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Women trash men all the time left and right. It is common in our culture that nobody notices so I figure if women can dish it they should be able to take it. A secure woman knows I am not talking about her personally and does not get angry. Like I told you before you are becoming the mirror image of your own mother. You have the same need to dish it out that she did. Amazing how you allow her to still control you after all this time. Sad indeed. I am not angry I actually feel sorry for you. To bad you cannot learn to resolve this. Again therapy would likely benefit you.
catgirl1927 Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 What nonsense. Woggle just likes to post about how much he hates women. It's just for attention.
Touche Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Well, as long as your wife is proud of you going to strip clubs then fine. You sure you don't have a problem with her having a vibrator?
superconductor Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 Women trash men all the time left and right... While that's true - misandry is pretty much a national pastime - that doesn't mean it's open season on women. A good man is better than that. He'll give the misandrist hordes the attention they deserve: none whatsoever.
typical Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 I understand her need to poke her twat sometimes. :lmao: I agree wholeheartedly with Otter and Superconductor: Vibrators don't extort money out of a guy for the sake of some unfulfilled promise of sexual gratification. Vibrators don't exploit the user like strip clubs and strippers do. and: If it were porn I might agree with you, but live strippers involve interpersonal interaction, so no. They are not the same at all. Now if the vibrator were wielded by a hot dude, who masturbated women for money, then yeah -- the two scenarios would be comparable. Both are excellent points. Below is a statement I made in reference to a thread that was started before but I never recieved an answer for it...Maybe this time I can: "I have a question that has been vaguely plauging me, though... (assume, for the purpose of the question, the "man" is involved in a relationship) If a man watching a naked woman and recieving lap dances is not considered cheating at all, because he didnt actually engage in the full act of sex, would he be a cheater if he was a premature ejaculator and blew a load into his pants while he was recieving a lap dance? What if he knew he had a tendency to lose his load at the slightest provocation, and went to strip clubs expressly for the purpose of recieving a lap dance, to reach his fruition? Is that cheating? I have always been mildly intrigued and curious about this."
Author Woggle Posted September 22, 2006 Author Posted September 22, 2006 While that's true - misandry is pretty much a national pastime - that doesn't mean it's open season on women. A good man is better than that. He'll give the misandrist hordes the attention they deserve: none whatsoever. In the battle of the sexes trying to be the better man has not served men well. I say give it back just as bad as they dish out to us.
Adunaphel Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 "I have a question that has been vaguely plauging me, though... (assume, for the purpose of the question, the "man" is involved in a relationship) If a man watching a naked woman and recieving lap dances is not considered cheating at all, because he didnt actually engage in the full act of sex, would he be a cheater if he was a premature ejaculator and blew a load into his pants while he was recieving a lap dance? What if he knew he had a tendency to lose his load at the slightest provocation, and went to strip clubs expressly for the purpose of recieving a lap dance, to reach his fruition? Is that cheating? I have always been mildly intrigued and curious about this." I remember that question. I never answered because I thought it was just a rethorical question. Anyway, yes, I'd call it cheating. But I consider lap dances cheating so my opinion does not count anyway.
2sunny Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 her need to poke her twat your choice of words alone shows utter disrespect for women... if i didn't know you and the fact that you have been here a while - i would have thought you were a troll...
Touche Posted September 22, 2006 Posted September 22, 2006 "I understand her need to poke her twat sometimes." You know seeing this again..wow! It's crass, crude and disgusting. I read the OP again and I think I know what this is all about. I'd bet ANYTHING that you have a problem with her having a vibrator. It makes you feel insecure and like you're not enough of a man for her, doesn't it? It wouldn't bother MOST men though. But we all know that you're not MOST men now don't we. I think your going to the strip clubs is a way to get back at her for this. And perhaps she's not saying anything to you about it. She's not buying into this childish game. But I have a funny little feeling that she DOESN'T like it and you know she doesn't. If you're playing games like this and you JUST got married...good luck. Succesful marriages don't work like this so you just might want to re-think this.
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