Angel291 Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 A month ago I met a man on an internet dating website. He emailed me three times. The second time he asked me what I thought about the nobility and the third time he asked me what I thought about the role of the aristoracy in the world today. He did not write to me again for a month. Then the other day he wrote and said that he had three friends who had been suffering from depression and manic depression and that he had been so busy helping them that he had not been able to write for that month but that he would like to resume writing. I said ok. In the email he sent today he asked me this question, "what would you say if I told you that I am a Marquis and heir to a Papal Dukedom? I am not saying that I am...just asking." This really concerned me. It seemed clear that he was hinting at his being a Marquis and heir to a Papal Dukedom. It worried me that if it was true, why he would come out with something like that to someone he does not even know....and if it was not true, it worried me about why he would even hint at something like that! I dated a man who was bipolar and who used to say he was in the mafia. This man turned out to be abusive. This made me think of that situation and it concerned me. What does everyone think? Should I be concerned or not? To me it seems that even if it was true, it would be something you would not just come out and announce. It seems like I should be concerned either way. Thanks!
norajane Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 3 friends suffering from manic depression and royalty? Perhaps he's writing from a hospital. Be concerned. Be very concerned.
Touche Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 I once dated a guy who claimed to be a viscount. What the HELL is a viscount anyway! He had some regal looking ring and everything. I don't remember what happened but I didn't go out with him after the first date. Ok, on to you now. Strikes me as REALLY weird. Doesn't sound right to me. I would ask him why he's telling you, a complete stranger, this right off the bat and she what he says. I'd also say "Aren't you concerned that people will want to date you because of your social position/money and not for YOU?" Just ask him that and see what his answer is. It should be revealing.
burning 4 revenge Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 3 friends suffering from manic depression and royalty? Perhaps he's writing from a hospital. Be concerned. Be very concerned.:lmao: I can just see him writing her, smiling with black teeth, a tin foil crown wrapped around his head,as he makes proclomations and hands out fiefdoms to his three fellow lords of the psych ward:lmao:
Nicholas Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 In the email he sent today he asked me this question, "what would you say if I told you that I am a Marquis and heir to a Papal Dukedom? I am not saying that I am...just asking." This really concerned me. It seemed clear that he was hinting at his being a Marquis and heir to a Papal Dukedom. This guy sounds like a tool, nobility or not.
Chinook Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 What does everyone think? Should I be concerned or not? To me it seems that even if it was true, it would be something you would not just come out and announce. It seems like I should be concerned either way. Oh yeah, you should be concerned alright! A Marquis is usually a French Nobleman I think... which doesn't really tie-in with the idea of a Papal Dukedom because a papal estate is normally Italian and is usually a Duke. Besides which I believe Italy has a Prime Minister and a President, rather than a King (not entirely sure on that though). Although I suppose it is possible that a papal estate could exist under the King of Spain's jurisdiction. So you could use some of this info if you decide to ask him - to verify it... but it's just as easy to research it on t'interweb. Truth...? I think he's spinning you a line. Since when do Noblemen contact the Proles on t' interwebby thing..? (j/k)
burning 4 revenge Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Oh, now, don't let the fact that all these hens are jealous dissuade your future Highness.
Chinook Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Oh, now, don't let the fact that all these hens are jealous dissuade your future Highness.Okay, you guys have been way too funny today. I'm gonna have to sign outta the shack for a couple days to get my keyboard cleaned and my monitor looking spiffy again. Coke all over the place (the liquid kind that is)
Hitman10000 Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 I'm the Prince of San Mopitala. I will arrive in my state funded Rolls Royce and whisk you away in a beautiful hotel to seranade you with the pleasures you can never find elsewhere.
RecordProducer Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 I am not saying that I am...just asking." He is not saying he is, he was just asking. HE IS NOT. If he were, he would've told you immediately or later or much later... but he wouldn't make a glamorous puzzle out of it. Something is probably wrong. But you can never be sure. Maybe he is convinced that he is somebody's descendant because his mom told him that some marquise screwed her grandmother... I wouldn't be worried too much, but the more you talk to him the more you will discover...' If in doubt leave it out. I met up with 4 guys I knew on the net (two friends, one BF, and hubby) and I knew the folks were cool since the moment they wrote me the first time. You just use your intuition. But don't trust anyone 100%. Don't give personal information, where you work, or phone number if your guts tell you that something might be wrong. You can always be honest and say "I would rather not share that information for now. I hope you understand. Thank you." Hope this helped somewhat...
Sally00 Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 He did not write to me again for a month. Then the other day he wrote and said that he had three friends who had been suffering from depression and manic depression and that he had been so busy helping them that he had not been able to write for that month but that he would like to resume writing. What? It's not like he was with these friends for 24 hours a day, 7 days, a week, for a whole month. Is it that hard to say something back to you within that time? Geez. I think this guy has issues or somethin'...
Pink Amulet Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 He very well could be... don't write him off too quickly!
Adunaphel Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 A Marquis is usually a French Nobleman I think... which doesn't really tie-in with the idea of a Papal Dukedom because a papal estate is normally Italian and is usually a Duke. Besides which I believe Italy has a Prime Minister and a President, rather than a King (not entirely sure on that though). The rank of Marquess is hereditary, and Marquess by courtesy would always be the heir to a dukedom (the courtesy title of an heir must always be at least one rank below that of the peer). The guy *could* have a Marquess title, and if this is the case chances are high that you just have an average guy with a Marquess title (which are not acnowledged by the constitutions of many countries anyway), who is trying to use it to sound more interesting and impress you. I hope he has better ways to catch your attention! Where is he from? Or, he could be a nutcase. Or he could be a nutcase with a Marquess title. Some health problems that are based on genetics factors, like epilepsy or hemophila used to have a higher occurrence among nobility lines. Could be the same with mental problems. (just being facetious) I'd say he might very well be a Marquess, for all it's worth. And he might very well have some issues. he also sounds a little like a bore, but I hope he'll turn out to be a nice and person to talk with.
serial muse Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 surprised no one has suggested this yet...here's a fun possibility. what if he's the type of guy who's really bitter and suspicious that women are after one thing and so he's testing you? or maybe he's just an ass who thinks it's fun to screw with people. either way, there's no way a royal of any kind would be seeking people through the personals. think about it. it's not like he wouldn't have other ways to get women's attention; the only purpose in dating online would be for anonymity, to avoid all the she-only-wants-me-for-my-money/title business. so that's clearly not it then. MHO: he's either a loon or an ass. either way, not worth replying to.
ejc317 Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 a papal dukedom means nothing you do realize that? There are plenty of viscounts, marquis etc in western europe who were stripped of their property, etc - especially in France and Germany. I mean he could just be screwing around or he could just be a stuck up douche
HokeyReligions Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 He asked what you would say if he told you he was royalty. Here's what I would say! Intry Mintry Coutry Corn Apple Seed and Apple Thorn Wire, Brier, Limber, Lock Six Geese in a Flock One flew East And one flew West And One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest! Ta Ta! I don't date royalty - one royal pain in the ass was enough.
Adunaphel Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 He asked what you would say if he told you he was royalty. Here's what I would say! Intry Mintry Coutry Corn Apple Seed and Apple Thorn Wire, Brier, Limber, Lock Six Geese in a Flock One flew East And one flew West And One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest! Ta Ta! I don't date royalty - one royal pain in the ass was enough. :lmao:
Pink Amulet Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 a papal dukedom means nothing you do realize that? There are plenty of viscounts, marquis etc in western europe who were stripped of their property, etc - especially in France and Germany. Exactly! Do you realise how many poor royals there are floating around all of Europe (and Scandinavia)?! My guess is, he is telling the truth, and he is simply trying to impress you.
ejc317 Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 I mean hell - robin hood was royalty And lots of royalty have debts to the US after WWI lol anyhoo if it was like a dukedom of Wales or the UK then it's worth something it's a papal dukedom - he probably likes little boys
superconductor Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 When I was in high school there was a friend of mine who was suddenly called away to the UK. We were about 14 or 15. When he returned he told me that a relative had died and he had inheirited some sort of castle or manor house or something. Naturally, I didn't believe him. That was until I saw a copy of a British newspaper in the library. Lo and behold, there was an article about him and the estate he had inheirited, complete with pictures. Because he was still a minor, the running of the estate fell to a small cluster of lawyers and whatnot. After we finished high school, he moved to the UK and now, as far as I know, he's living the life of a well-to-do noble. I wonder if he has any concubines...
Alexandra Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 either way, there's no way a royal of any kind would be seeking people through the personals. think about it. it's not like he wouldn't have other ways to get women's attention Excuse me? So it's only looney arses with no other way to meet people that find someone online?
blind_otter Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 If I were royalty I would share that information only after establishing a bond with someone and making sure they weren't random stalking nutcases. He hasn't even met you yet. I'mjustsaying.
Pink Amulet Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 In fact, when studying class distinctions I was shocked to uncover how many noblemen, living in run down European manors were living only slightly above the poverty line. Class doesn't equal money, and royality doesn't equal, well... anything other than a pompous title most of the time.
Author Angel291 Posted August 13, 2006 Author Posted August 13, 2006 Thanks so much to everyone for all of the great advice. This is what I did. Since he asked me what I would say if he told me he was a Marquis and heir to a Papal Dukedom, I decided to be very straightforward and express my concern. I sent him a email saying this; "You asked me what I would say if you told me that you are a Marquis and heir to a Papal Dukedom. I would say, "I hope you have a really good reason for saying something like that" and then I would be concerned. I would be concerned because if it was true I would wonder why you would tell someone you do not even know something like that. And if it was not true, I would wonder why you would even hint at something like that. " I decided to wait and see if he would explain himself or not. He very quickly sent a reply. It was this; "My dear woman, it is no different than someone mentioning they are a priest or a physician...However, I can infer from the terse nature and content of your note that you have no desire to continue correspondence." That was it. He did not sign his name or anything. Imediately after he sent me that message, I received a automatic letter from the internet service saying that he had used the "block" function which is reserved to be used in the cases of people harassing someone or continuing to write to someone after they have been asked not to write. It is in the sites "Terms of Use" that people are to ONLY use that function if they REALLY need to, such as in the cases of people harassing them. It means I can no longer view his profile or write to him (which I am not worried about! ) As I never harassed him and simply answered his question, I was rather shocked. I got the impression that I must have really hit a nerve for him to go to the extreme of using the "block" button that is reserved for people harassing someone. It seemed to me that he must have become so upset by my response that it made him feel like he had to do something serious. It seemed like a little way of getting back at me for saying that I would be concerned. If he was really a Marquis, I do not think he would get that angry. I think I hit a nerve. What do you think? Do you think his reaction says anything more about him or his "claim"? Thanks again everyone! It does help to hear others opinions so much. (Oh, by the way, in answer to someones question, he was born in Alabama and lives in Kentucky.) (Blind Otter, I really like your quote! Where did you get it?)
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