lindya Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 The ironic thing about this thread is that many women (and some men) have taken time to provide sincere, constructive advice to you. In many cases, the things we're saying are exactly what all those "irrational, unfun, rejecting and ostracizing" women are THINKING. We're giving you a window into the world you so desparately want to visit. And you reject our advice because it just hurts too bad. Your cover story of "not being in a relationship because I am a man with standards" is just that - a coverup. How about, "I am not in a r/s because I have not learned how to relate to women. I specifically must maintain a defensive, hostile posture around women because they scare the h*ll out of me." That's much closer to the truth. When you finally admit that, at least to yourself, you will be able to take the next step and make it a productive one. Great post.
littlepiggy1 Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 I have friends who are girls, but trying to start a romantic relationship with a girl is a harrowing, mind-racking process. It is not fun. I have rarely had fun with a girl and most of them do not seem to want to have fun with me. I have never done anything to them either, so their retribution and ostracization of me seems comepletely irrrational. But girls are not rational creatures. They operate on feelings, pure visceral feelings. For instance, I never said that I called a girl ugly in real life, but all the girls on this board start to scream that I am shallow and horrible to even suggest that some members of their gender are less than physically attractive. Comeplete non sequitor. Women can dish it out but they can't take it. I think I am losing respect and interest in the opposite sex day by day. Maybe singledom is the most viable, rewarding outcome. For god sakes, I meet all the criteria that I set in the origional post! Why is it wrong to expect the same? I don't think my list is too restrictive. And I am willing to give a little leeway on a case by case basis. I don't care if shes a virgin or not. I do look at the individual, but since I meet the above standards, then why should I stoop to a lower level? I don't want an std. I don't want to take care of someone elses kid, scince a girl didnt have the foresight to use protection or married a loser. I don't want a girl whos going to die from lung cancer. I don't want a fat slob who won't go mountain biking or hiking with me. Maybe my list isn't the problem... maybe I just haven't found anyone who takes care of themselves as much as I do. I've seen lots of guys who have girlfriends or wives who met the standards above. Where are they? Obviously not on this board. Your standards really aren't that unreasonable. Naturally, people want other people they find attractive or who are disease free. The "hasn't lived with someone else" is probably unrealistic, however. But OTOH, playing the "blame game" because you haven't had success with women... Well, maybe there's a reason for that and maybe it starts with you. Maybe you are too egotistical, too judgemental, too boring or too insecure? You need to have a good, long look at yourself first.
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