alphamale Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 she certainly would not leave me and leave all this." some of the wives do leave. and their consolation prizes are the house, the kids, the BMW and a healthy alimony & child support pymts.
BareGoddess Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 I have no idea, but I would think that an attorney might have a better idea of the consequences and how to weasel out of it if caught. THey are nothing more than professional liars for the most part. Sounds harsh but hey it is true. In the criminal realm, they defend people that they KNOW are guilty as hell and massage the facts (truth) to get their client off. This is no different for corporate attorneys, divorce attorneys, or ambulance chasers. Now, I also think that the dynamic of the family has a lot to do with the cheating. Of course opportunity is key as well. But, if you are an attorney, doctor, or some such muckety muck with a kid or two, I would venture to say that there is a good chance your wife is staying at home tending to the kids while you earn the big bucks to support the family. It is easy to fall into the trap of "oh, I am entitled to do it, look at what I provide." and "oh she does not work, so even if I do get caught, what is she going to do? she certainly would not leave me and leave all this." What malarkey! All of that, really! My H is not a professional liar. Neither are the other lawyers we know. Most of them are doing their jobs and following the law. Some don't choose to even know whether the client is guilty or not. They take the facts and do their job. Period. It's up to the judge and jury to decide their guilt...not up to the lawyer involved. You show a lot of ignorance in this post.
alphamale Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Most of them are doing their jobs and following the law. "If the glove does not fit...you must acquit"
BareGoddess Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 "If the glove does not fit...you must acquit" Not sure I'm getting your point.
alphamale Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Not sure I'm getting your point. A very famous quote from O.J. Simpson's lead atty, Johnny Cochran.
BareGoddess Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 A very famous quote from O.J. Simpson's lead atty, Johnny Cochran. Yes, of course. I was aware of THAT. I just meant, I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with that. There are good and bad lawyers just like there are good and bad cops, doctors, etc. etc. I was just asking what your point was.
alphamale Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 I was just asking what your point was. My point was that an atty can be your best friend or worst enemy....depending of who's side he/she is on. Most of the atty's i've known have been very shrewd and cunning individuals. And some of them have been of questionable moral stature.
BareGoddess Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 My point was that an atty can be your best friend or worst enemy....depending of who's side he/she is on. Most of the atty's i've known have been very shrewd and cunning individuals. And some of them have been of questionable moral stature. You'll get no argument from me there. Of COURSE some of them are unscrupulous...as I said above. But let's not forget that they're not ALL like that.
lindya Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 I know this is a stupid thread but it seems male attorneys are the biggest "cheaters" of them all. I have two friends involved with attorneys that are MM. The MM I almost got back involved with is an attorney and I've read several posts about attorneys who are MM "hitting on" or "trying to seduce" OW. What do you think? Do you think occupation has anything to do with the cheater? Just wanted your views. There's so much I could say about this. All I'll say is that the profession has a pretty high quota of sleazebags, but court cafeterias are havens of gossip and scandal and it's a rare affair that can be conducted in secret. However discreet the participants believe they're being. I'd imagine word of the sleazier practitioners' extra-curricular activities usually gets back sooner or later to their wives who either demand compensatory holidays/jewellery/house renovations... or simply opt to turn a blind eye to the whole thing.
FredTravels Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 What malarkey! All of that, really! My H is not a professional liar. Neither are the other lawyers we know. Most of them are doing their jobs and following the law. Some don't choose to even know whether the client is guilty or not. They take the facts and do their job. Period. It's up to the judge and jury to decide their guilt...not up to the lawyer involved. You show a lot of ignorance in this post. Sorry you feel that my thoughts are ignorant and I do resent the comment so I will defend my position. I was responding to the OP with my thoughts (not you)--sorry if I insulted you and your hubby. But I do stand my my opinion. What happens when you go out and tie a load on and get pulled over for a DUI and blow a .12. Are you telling me that your hubby and all of his associates would simply say the "fact" is that you were drunk and it is up to the judge to decide your fate? Doubtful. More likely than not, they would contrive a story as to why you blew a .12--she had some medication, it reacted with birth control pills, the cop had it out for her, she was taking cough medicine, etc. All in hopes that someone will believe THEIR story as opposed to the truth. THere is only one truth--it is an attorneys job to cloud that truth to the benefit of their client. That is why there is attorney client privilege. Now I will give you that an attorney will not willfully break the law for a client--but then again, lying is not a crime unless you are under oath--and the last time I checked, it was the plaintiff and defendants that were under oath--not the attorney. I am sorry that your husband keeps you so misinformed about his profession. Hopefully this area is the only one in which he may not be telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
BareGoddess Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Sorry you feel that my thoughts are ignorant and I do resent the comment so I will defend my position. I was responding to the OP with my thoughts (not you)--sorry if I insulted you and your hubby. But I do stand my my opinion. What happens when you go out and tie a load on and get pulled over for a DUI and blow a .12. Are you telling me that your hubby and all of his associates would simply say the "fact" is that you were drunk and it is up to the judge to decide your fate? Doubtful. More likely than not, they would contrive a story as to why you blew a .12--she had some medication, it reacted with birth control pills, the cop had it out for her, she was taking cough medicine, etc. All in hopes that someone will believe THEIR story as opposed to the truth. THere is only one truth--it is an attorneys job to cloud that truth to the benefit of their client. That is why there is attorney client privilege. Now I will give you that an attorney will not willfully break the law for a client--but then again, lying is not a crime unless you are under oath--and the last time I checked, it was the plaintiff and defendants that were under oath--not the attorney. I am sorry that your husband keeps you so misinformed about his profession. Hopefully this area is the only one in which he may not be telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Clearly you have NO idea how the law works. It is NOT the attorney's job to cloud the truth. That right there reveals your ignorance on the subject. I'm sorry you don't understand how it works. Go educate yourself on the matter. My husband does not keep me "misinformed." I'm well aware of how the law works. Why don't you inform yourself before you go spouting off about something you clearly know nothing about. And you can resent my comments all you want. I'm just trying to enlighten you. It's obviously not working. I'm done. Go do some research. Talk to some lawyers and become informed. You continue to reveal your ignorance with each post. It's embarassing.
FredTravels Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Hey honey, I am plenty enlightened, but you can keep living in your Alice in Wonderland existence. I have a VERY good knowledge of the law and what attorneys do. It may not be what is talked about in the books or on the bar, but it is reality. So, what happens when you drink a little too much--do you simply admit it and lay down and take what comes--because that it the truth now isn't it? I am sure there would be NO ATTORNEY that would take that case because they don't lie. You need to grow up and experience the real world a bit. I will continue to reveal my ignorance with each post. I am glad you are entertained. Apparentlly it does not take too much! Hey, by the way, does your husband ever work late nights? Hmmmmm food for thought?
BareGoddess Posted July 16, 2006 Posted July 16, 2006 Hey honey, I am plenty enlightened, but you can keep living in your Alice in Wonderland existence. I have a VERY good knowledge of the law and what attorneys do. It may not be what is talked about in the books or on the bar, but it is reality. So, what happens when you drink a little too much--do you simply admit it and lay down and take what comes--because that it the truth now isn't it? I am sure there would be NO ATTORNEY that would take that case because they don't lie. You need to grow up and experience the real world a bit. I will continue to reveal my ignorance with each post. I am glad you are entertained. Apparentlly it does not take too much! Hey, by the way, does your husband ever work late nights? Hmmmmm food for thought? Nope, my husband doesn't work late nights. He doesn't have to. You're a piece of work. Yes, if you drive while drinking too much you take what comes. An attorney isn't going to get you off. You obviously don't understand how it works do you? I've experienced plenty. I'm not the one who needs to grow up. Now go do some research and come back and tell us what you've learned, k? This "reality" you claim to know is BS! I am privy to "backstage." I am THERE. I know the truth. I know how it works. You have clearly been sitting at too many bars talking to other drunks and actually BELIEVING what you hear. It's sad really.
lindya Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Hey honey, I am plenty enlightened, but you can keep living in your Alice in Wonderland existence. I have a VERY good knowledge of the law and what attorneys do. It may not be what is talked about in the books or on the bar, but it is reality. So, what happens when you drink a little too much--do you simply admit it and lay down and take what comes--because that it the truth now isn't it? I am sure there would be NO ATTORNEY that would take that case because they don't lie. You need to grow up and experience the real world a bit. I will continue to reveal my ignorance with each post. I am glad you are entertained. Apparentlly it does not take too much! Hey, by the way, does your husband ever work late nights? Hmmmmm food for thought? That's totally out of order. What sort of a person wants to plant doubts in someone's head like that? Yuk. If you really do know anything about the profession, then you'll know that most lawyers have to work late pretty frequently...especially if they're close to a proof hearing or settling an important deal. Yes, there are plenty of sleazebags in law, but there are also plenty of perfectly decent guys who happen to be in that profession for all the right reasons. As for lawyers lying...you'd have to be either absolutely stupid or corrupt beyond caring to believe there's any client in the world who'd be worth standing up in court and lying for. There might be times you don't particularly believe a client's version, but that's a whole different situation from standing up as an officer of the court and blatantly telling what you know to be a lie. If you have worked in the profession, then I can only assume that you weren't good enough to work for a reputable firm.
FredTravels Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 This "reality" you claim to know is BS! I am privy to "backstage." Please leave your groupie days out of this. I could care less what you learned backstage. You know damned right well that there are attorneys all over the world that defend drunken drivers knowing full well that they were drunk. Ken Lay's attorney defended him tooth and nail knowing full well that he was guilty. Some are better than others--the OJ team as Alpha pointed out was outstanding and they got an aquittal (that is "not guilty" for the backstage groupies). Attorneys are a necessary evil for sure, but PLEASE do not go putting them on this holier than thou pedestal, because they are simply not there. Sorry your hubby is not in demand enough to work late. Maybe someday! But till then, keep after dem amboolances!
BareGoddess Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 Please leave your groupie days out of this. I could care less what you learned backstage. You know damned right well that there are attorneys all over the world that defend drunken drivers knowing full well that they were drunk. Ken Lay's attorney defended him tooth and nail knowing full well that he was guilty. Some are better than others--the OJ team as Alpha pointed out was outstanding and they got an aquittal (that is "not guilty" for the backstage groupies). Attorneys are a necessary evil for sure, but PLEASE do not go putting them on this holier than thou pedestal, because they are simply not there. Sorry your hubby is not in demand enough to work late. Maybe someday! But till then, keep after dem amboolances! Ha! Ha! He does very well, thank you. He doesn't work late because he doesn't HAVE to! YOu're hilarious! And go BACK and read what I've said. I never put ALL attorneys on a pedestal. YOU however are painting them as all evil. They are not. Read Lyndia's post. You obviously consort with sleaze bags if you think ALL attorneys lie for their clients. I feel dirty even talking to you. That's why you are now officially on ignore. Keep this up and you will be banned. (Like you were the last time.)
BareGoddess Posted July 17, 2006 Posted July 17, 2006 That's totally out of order. What sort of a person wants to plant doubts in someone's head like that? Yuk. If you really do know anything about the profession, then you'll know that most lawyers have to work late pretty frequently...especially if they're close to a proof hearing or settling an important deal. Yes, there are plenty of sleazebags in law, but there are also plenty of perfectly decent guys who happen to be in that profession for all the right reasons. As for lawyers lying...you'd have to be either absolutely stupid or corrupt beyond caring to believe there's any client in the world who'd be worth standing up in court and lying for. There might be times you don't particularly believe a client's version, but that's a whole different situation from standing up as an officer of the court and blatantly telling what you know to be a lie. If you have worked in the profession, then I can only assume that you weren't good enough to work for a reputable firm. Than you Lyndia but the guy planted NO doubts in my head. None. He clearly doesn't know the first thing about what he's talking about. Anyone can see that. His posts speak for themselves. And it's also VERY clear to me that he does NOT work in the profession. He sits around a bar talking to other drunks who complain about how their lawyers ripped them off - either in a DUI case or in a divorce. I've seen his type. They're a dime a dozen. They keep my husband in business though. So I"m glad they're out there in a way. I just don't want them anywhere near me.
RecoverMe Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 my husband is a lawyer and he just cheate on me first time we/ve been married 13 years. he cheated on me once when we were dating too. I think for him regardless of his profession he has a problem with lies and honesty, could have been why he became a lwayer? who knows? he comes from a family of lawyers interestingly enough, with all it's dysfuntion and drama.
alphamale Posted July 18, 2006 Posted July 18, 2006 I think for him regardless of his profession he has a problem with lies and honesty, could have been why he became a lwayer? who knows? he comes from a family of lawyers interestingly enough, with all it's dysfuntion and drama. people are drawn to certain professions for certain reasons....their personality being one of those reasons. If they made a mistake and can't hack it then they usually drop out.
arniebuteft Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 I'm guessing that Fred: a. Was sued once and lost, b. Was charged with a crime once and got convicted, or c. Is envious of the income and status of the average lawyers. Lawyer-haters usually fall into one of those groups. I think it's cute how Fred is going out of his way to convince BareGoddess that her husband is screwing his secretary or some such. Why do you even care, Fred? Nobody likes lawyers until they need one, right?
magichands Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 I'm guessing that Fred: a. Was sued once and lost, b. Was charged with a crime once and got convicted, or c. Is envious of the income and status of the average lawyers. Lawyer-haters usually fall into one of those groups. I think it's cute how Fred is going out of his way to convince BareGoddess that her husband is screwing his secretary or some such. Why do you even care, Fred? Nobody likes lawyers until they need one, right? Woo. Potshot. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!
simona Posted July 21, 2006 Posted July 21, 2006 I am a lawyer and my boss who is one of partners of a law firm hits on me all the time. I do know if this is a coincidence, but he does it on purpose. He asked me if I want to go the game with him this weekend. I asked him if his family is coming too, he said just his kids. He also asked me to bring my son too. He constantly stares and smiles at me. It has reached a point where other co-workers have started noticing it to. He said my smile makes his day . He has not cheated yet, but he is trying very hard. I do not know if all lawyers are like that but I think it is wrong to stereotype. However, lawyers have money and power and men/ women who are weathly and powerful are capable of cheating.
Author stillafool Posted July 22, 2006 Author Posted July 22, 2006 . However, lawyers have money and power and men/ women who are weathly and powerful are capable of cheating. I understand they make good money but how do they have power other than the courtroom? I have a friend who is a legal secretary at a firm and she said the attorneys are notorious for hitting on women. She said one of the secretaries has to screen her bosses calls according to how the woman sounds on the phone. In otherwords if the woman doesn't sound business like she won't even put the call through or give him the message. She does this to keep her boss from cheating on his wife again.
ridingthebulls Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Lawyers and people of that nature hold high opinions of themselves. They tend to be very selfish. Ted Bundy was studying law in hopes of being a lawyer. In fact, he tried being his own attorney at trial. Tells you about the type of people drawn to that field.
ridingthebulls Posted July 22, 2006 Posted July 22, 2006 Well, they might THINK of another woman. I won't delude myself but ACTING on it, is another matter entirely. I would know if I were being cheated on. Never have been. As if you would ever know. And now I know why these "MM" are "MM": their wives are blind.
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