Sapiens Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 I had a great conversation with a female striper about the different issues affecting both genders. She asked me why men would first have sex with a beautiful woman and then see is she had a nice character to stick around? To me its obvious but let me explain. A beautiful woman has many men after her, regarless if she is smart. So if you can get sex out of her you have won over many other competing men. Since there are more ugly women than beautiful ones, the law of supply and demand takes effect. Since beauty is the commodity and not the vagina. Now a question for you ladies: If you have two equally handsome and charming men, but one is rich and the other middle class which one would you choose? Please be honest answering and let's see how many questions we can get answered. -Sapiens
norajane Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 I don't really understand what your first question is...so can't answer that. As to the second, I would choose the man who treated me best, who treated his family and strangers with kindness, who was more compatible with my lifestyle, goals, and dreams.
Author Sapiens Posted July 12, 2006 Author Posted July 12, 2006 As to the second, I would choose the man who treated me best, who treated his family and strangers with kindness, who was more compatible with my lifestyle, goals, and dreams. Both are the same, the only difference are resources, one has more, the other less. Which would you choose? As for the some other questions. I asked her if she ever got tired of male attention because of her looks. She replied that she got annoyed if she got attention when she wasn't feeling confident, but in a way she still liked guys giving her attention, even from ugly guys. She said it was a form a validating her "womanness" whatever that meant. -Sapiens
basscatcher Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 As to the second, I would choose the man who treated me best, who treated his family and strangers with kindness, who was more compatible with my lifestyle, goals, and dreams. I would much agree with this. Class doesn't affect me as much. Although if the better one was the rich one he could lose out if he isn't down-to-earth and simple in lifestyle.
alphamale Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 As to the second, I would choose the man who treated me best, who treated his family and strangers with kindness, who was more compatible with my lifestyle, goals, and dreams. that is a load of ******** NORAJANE and does not support what I usually see in the real world. Women's intentions and spoken words are all full of idealism but when it comes to their actions in the real world they are quite different.
basscatcher Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 that is a load of ******** NORAJANE and does not support what I usually see in the real world. Women's intentions and spoken words are all full of idealism but when it comes to their actions in the real world they are quite different. When picking a lasting relationship what she pointed out is real.. In dating and playing I agree they don't fit. Dating and playing is the fantasy of fun, exploration and excitement. I wan't someone compatable to me to settle down with.
Author Sapiens Posted July 12, 2006 Author Posted July 12, 2006 that is a load of ******** NORAJANE and does not support what I usually see in the real world. Women's intentions and spoken words are all full of idealism but when it comes to their actions in the real world they are quite different. Easy now Alpha, we know this and you are correct. (Actions speak louder than words.) Let, us see if we can get some honest answers. -Sapiens
amaysngrace Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Women's intentions and spoken words are all full of idealism but when it comes to their actions in the real world they are quite different. Not all women, Alpha. I don't care about money because I've always had it. It's just something you need. I live my life thinking this too. I don't have the best house, the best car, the best jewelry (well, umm...maybe I do have that) but it doesn't really matter to me. So many people think you are only worth what you have, and it totally shows. I think it's who you are that counts.
basscatcher Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Now a question for you ladies: If you have two equally handsome and charming men, but one is rich and the other middle class which one would you choose? THIS WAS THE QUESTION THAT WE ANSWERED... it was answered with a serious commitment in mind with a man.
norajane Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Easy now Alpha, we know this and you are correct. (Actions speak louder than words.) Let, us see if we can get some honest answers. -Sapiens Bite me. I'm 38 and have been around the block a bit. I don't choose men based on their income - I have plenty of my own money and don't need anyone else's. I choose them on what really matters to ME, and you got MY honest answer. Tough s*** if it doens't meet your pre-determined outcome.
Chinook Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Well, as much as it sounds shallow, I'd go for the guy with the most money. Not because *I* want his money... but I don't want HIM going after mine... so if he has his own, then we're all square. This is an interesting question and a debate I had with a colleague. I agree with alpha, sometimes women are too afraid to admit that 'resources' do actually matter and being with someone who is at 'your' level is really important - for the simple reason that if they aren't it creates an area of tension. Yeah, there will always be the stories of the 'Princess' and the 'Pauper' who make it work and EVERYONE (men and women) say riches or money don't matter - idealistically they don't but in the real world, they do. My example... I own outright my own home. It's detached in it's own grounds. No mortgage, no lease etc. It's mine. However, I have very little disposable income at the end of the month because of the bills etc. My last b/f was a dental surgeon. He had his own house with a mortgage and bills but LOADS of disposable income at the end of the month. This created issues for me because he didn't even think about what he did with his money. I had to think very carefully what I did with mine. BUT, also I also had my eye on the long term... his plan was to move in with me (and hence free himself of a mortgage and bills) but that would increase HIS disposable income whilst increasing my outgoings! And because we were supposedly in luuuuurve I think he expected me to waive rent and bills. I don't think so. It all depends on the individuals' agenda. For me, the guy would have to be equal to me to afford his own way but also be astute enough that he knows I'm not going to support him. My house is my life insurance not somoene else's nest egg for the future. This issue alone makes me very wary of dating people who aren't financially at my level... because I have a lot to lose (when you've had cancer you can't get life insurance).
precious99 Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 This thread asked for honest opinions - and the women who are posting here are giving theirs - you can't generalize and make all women out to be bi**hes just because you have encountered a few (or many for that matter) I personally left a marriage (by my choice) with a great man who made lots of money but with whom I had married too young, grown apart from and just wasn't happy with anymore. I am now dating someone who makes less money but makes me far more happy and personally fulfilled. And in terms of your question - there can be no right answer - if we choose the rich man we're just proving your point and if we choose the less financially sound man then we're lying.
ash8752 Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Money is not an issue with me. I am with a man i love and treats me great. He does not have much money! But if there were 2 men, EXACTLY the same in every way possible then of course i'd chose the richer man. WHy not??? If the had some kind of personality difference and the richer one was a dick or just lacked in something i would choose the other guy. Same thing for women. If two were exactly the same but one had more money why not go for that one, they are hypothetically the same.
Sally00 Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 A conversation with a stripper? That's possible? LoL And money doesn't matter to me.
Author Sapiens Posted July 12, 2006 Author Posted July 12, 2006 And in terms of your question - there can be no right answer - if we choose the rich man we're just proving your point and if we choose the less financially sound man then we're lying. You are very smart and correct! Now, how about the attention one. Do you ever get tired of it? -Sapiens
alphamale Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 I don't choose men based on their income - I have plenty of my own money Once again you decieve NORAJANE....studies have shown repeated that even professional women with money want men with equal or better financial standing. Do don't give me that load of ****!!! I agree with alpha, sometimes women are too afraid to admit that 'resources' do actually matter and being with someone who is at 'your' level is really important CHINOOK...when I used to tool around town in my '99 red corvette corvertible almost EVER woman would be craning her neck to check me out. Now that I drive a hum-drum bording and cheaper Honda Accord I get no looks at all from any women.
amaysngrace Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 A conversation with a stripper? That's possible? Oh, and here I was thinking he was talking to a fish
genegri Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 sapien, i would too sleep with a really handsome man whenever chance i have and not even think about marrying him or anything long term. it's just a nice goodie, you know and to answer your second question: if both men are both absolutely the same otherwise, i would actually choose the one with less money. just because 1, i already make more than enough to please myself; 2, it's easier for me to deal with someone who has similar financial situation.
amaysngrace Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 when I used to tool around town in my '99 red corvette corvertible almost EVER woman would be craning her neck to check me out. Did it ever occur to you that they were checking out the CAR?
Author Sapiens Posted July 12, 2006 Author Posted July 12, 2006 Bite me. I'm 38 and have been around the block a bit. I don't choose men based on their income - I have plenty of my own money and don't need anyone else's. I choose them on what really matters to ME, and you got MY honest answer. Tough s*** if it doens't meet your pre-determined outcome. Would you marry a poor man? Even though he would treat you like you want to be treated? -Sapiens
ash8752 Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Oh, and if you are fishing for an answer than ask it this way: If there were 2 men; one was rich but didnt treat you great (but treated you well enough) and one was middle class but treated you like a princess, which one would you choose? I would choose the middle class man. The way it's asked originally is really like a trap, but it's not because it's, for lack a better word, a ridiculous question. 2 SAME EXACT men, physically, emotionally etc...one has more money...DUH
precious99 Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Do women ever get tired of attention? I would say from my perspective - absolutely!! I have kids and I find it repulsive when I am out with them - where ever we may be - and they yell or whistle or even ask my kids for my number!! It's quite frankly - disgusting!! Some attention - some times - if fine and flattering but there is a time and a place for everyhting. Sometimes (believe it or not) we actually just want to look good for ourselves!!
Author Sapiens Posted July 12, 2006 Author Posted July 12, 2006 Did it ever occur to you that they were checking out the CAR? Umm, I think that was his point.. -Sapiens
norajane Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Once again you decieve NORAJANE....studies have shown repeated that even professional women with money want men with equal or better financial standing. Do don't give me that load of ****!!! And I'm telling you I don't care what studies have shown...the OP asked for MY views. I came from blue collar family who had NO money when I was growing up, and have two parents, aunts, uncles, cousins who all work extremely hard for what they have. I would never look down on a guy who had less money if he was all the other things I want in my life.
norajane Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Would you marry a poor man? Even though he would treat you like you want to be treated? -Sapiens YES. See my reply to alpha.
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