Galaxy Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 "I have worked REALLY hard to get as far as I have and I feel that people who graduate high school and go to a trade school and get a job don't see the world like I do." And you DID go to a trade school as well to make such a ridiculous statement, right? Otherwise, best to keep it zipped. Since you made such ignorant statements, I'll make my own judgments on the matter. They probably feel they see the world better than you do maybe because they've been IN THE REAL WORLD longer than you have. You were sheltered in a school environment taking it easy for four years. While people in the trade school go in, learn their stuff, and move out seriously persuing their occupation in the REAL WORLD. Whereas at normal colleges, there are tons of slackers and parties etc and not much really going on in the character or strength department. In fact, it's quite common that some people even prolong or extend their educational goals because they are too afraid to look for work or try to fend for themselves after they leave. In my opinion, you see the world living in a box. I don't think you actually see the whole picture or are even capable of that much.
Galaxy Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 Anyway, I've been seeing this guy for a couple of months. I really like him, he treats me like gold. He works in the city near me in a finance firm. Golly.. and you want to settle for a selfish suit who will likely have a mistress by your 2nd wedding anniversary. You are nuts. Save the good men for women that deserve them and respect them!! You are too juvenile-minded and shallow-minded to see the value in people and the world outside of your tiny little box. I really think you should take a break from your job and travel the world. You sound like another crook in the making. You have no decency or feelings for anyone else but yourself and your image. Really, get over yourself. You know the value of the dollar, but certainly not the value of the world or humanity. Astonishing that these flakes are what comes out of college. Unreal.. clueless on any meaning of what life or this universe we are living in is about. It's like some go in for a few years of college and they come out having a partial lobotomy and dollar signs etched in their eyes. "What I said was in regards to emotional development that happens at a place like a college or university (not to be confused with simply "going to college".. I'm talking about full fledged living away from home etc etc). " No offense, but living with a bunch of other people in a dorm is not true independence like living on your own. The people I've known who went to trade school had their own apartments at around 19 years old. Just shows you to save the ignorance. And plus, you can go on and on about how you struggled to pay, as if everyone who goes to a university struggles and that is why you relate to them. Many get financial aid and have the RENTS take care of it. I don't know where you draw your conclusions from. Universities are costly as it is now of days and very few people can actually struggle to make the money to pay as they go ( unless they draw out their educational goals).. if that were the case, it usually is dealing with community colleges. With universities, people will be more likely to get grants and then start paying them off AFTER they complete college and get a job.
Galaxy Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 because he can't find anything better to do and will never move up in his office because of his lack of a degree, then ditch him... you'll always feel like you could have done better. It's a good thing your mother didn't feel that way. How would you like it if she treated your father that way? Do you really think he deserves that treatment? If you are unable to find it within yourself to support someone's ambitions in life because you feel it tarnishes your REP or image (silly ), by all means cut the man loose. He deserves a lot more respect. A fulfilling career that one enjoys is really the ideal. Many people deal with their unsatisfying lives other negatives ways like substance abuse etc and the list goes on and on to much more severe, when really they should be in a different relationship or a different career that excites, satisfies and fulfills them. I know you expect a straight planned path, but in life, the train many times veers off the track and that is not necessarily a bad thing. And the fantasy of marrying a man just because he is rich and high-profile and showing him off to your family, is just that .. a shallow superficial "gold-digger" fantasy that does not guarantee any form of happiness. Why do you feel you have to prove so much to everyone else?? What are you lacking inside that makes you feel that way? This goes way beyond your explanation of "relating" to people better. Seems you have some major insecurities in which you felt you needed to latch onto a rich man to feel adequate.
Walk Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 Reading this thread is like watching a witch hunt. I feel like I should pull out a torch and stones. I'll have to brush off the dust though. I think there are a lot of assumptions being made and run with. You might be right in your assesment of her, but I've found that most people fears originally sound shallow. You can take her one post as a complete story on all of her thoughts feelings and beliefs, or you could've dug a little deeper. You could've attempted to get her to explain in more depth her reasons for why she worries about this sudden change in careers. It could be a pattern of his. It could be that subconciously she's noticed a distinct lack of follow through from him. It could be that he's been talking about this for months and hasn't taken one step toward it. Sometimes people need help in seeing the real reason they dislike the change, or the real feelings that power the thought. And we may have been able to help her discover her real fears behind the statement, and helped her either accept them, or overcome them. Except, after the first "Yes your a selfish bitch", there's no way a person would feel comfortable standing still in front of the firing squad. (I don't think she's been back since, has she?) So, I've got my torch ready... I haven't been on a good witch hunt in a long time. It might be fun.
Becoming Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 Our character is shaped by the composite of life choices we make, including those with whom we choose to associate. Being a lawyer and a firefighter are both noble professions, so I assume both are noble folks. But I agree with Otter and think at the end of the day their social worlds might be too incompatible. They don't have to be, but they'll have to work at it. It sounds like this guy could function in the social world of lawyers, and truth is, that social world is different than a firefighter's. Could she handle hanging out in his social circle or would she be discriminated against as a bitch lawyer, as some of these posts suggest she would be, though she herself said she grew up poor and understands the working class. The danger factor is something I personally could not be comfortable with for my own abandonment issues. Does that make me a bitch? I don't think so.
Outcast Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 The thing is that this guy is already a white-collar worker who wants to toss it over for firefighting as a career. So not only is he choosing a more service-oriented job over one less so, but he has already 'made it' in the world she thinks is superior. Clearly he's not lacking in any of the qualities that would qualify him in the world she deems important, however she feels that people would think less of her if she was affiliated with a man who does physical work for a living.
ilmw Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 Just read this thread.... I'm in the "Service Industry" or better know as a "Cop" Although Police and Fire are not the same job... it has carries the same "social status" Well it does in Canada...similiar pay as well. Difference is... everyone loves to see a firefighter.... not everone likes to see a 'cop' The point being... if it was not for the 'Service Workers' we would be living in a world of caos and flames....(crime and burnig buildings) Not everyone is cut out for these jobs... those that are.... make a difference to peoples lives on a daily basis. Now... how many people out there can say that...Hmmmmm? Lets not forget paramedics and nurses..... all us lowly 'service workers.'
Pantero Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 Just read this thread.... I'm in the "Service Industry" or better know as a "Cop" Although Police and Fire are not the same job... it has carries the same "social status" Well it does in Canada...similiar pay as well. Difference is... everyone loves to see a firefighter.... not everone likes to see a 'cop' The point being... if it was not for the 'Service Workers' we would be living in a world of caos and flames....(crime and burnig buildings) Not everyone is cut out for these jobs... those that are.... make a difference to peoples lives on a daily basis. Now... how many people out there can say that...Hmmmmm? Lets not forget paramedics and nurses..... all us lowly 'service workers.' Exactly. Personally, I love running into people who say, "well, why do you want so much respect - you chose to do this,". True. However, the people who say this would be the first ones to call the cops, firefighter, medics, whoever when something in their protected cushy little world goes awry. Then the respect level jumps because they want your help...heh. What a world. Glad I'm not a part of it. Sincerely, Lowly Cop
Pink Amulet Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 not everone likes to see a 'cop' No, some of us looooooooveee it :love:
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