bunset Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 OK, This is getting me through right now. Heck, I almost feel it got me into this mess. But frankly, I do know better. It's part of the very amusing quality of coincidence, noted by Dr. Wayne Dyer. The Power of Intention Chapter 12 is specifically about relationships. I was reading it when I checked into a resort with friends.. and I really met my xMM. Funny, I said to him when we had our first encounter, that these things happen like this. Neither of us had any intention of having it happen when we went there, but it DID happen. Then I kept reading, weeks later when I chacked into another resort on the beach to tryst with my xMM.... This paragraph grabbed me the first night he went home, left me alone, before he came back to spend the next day with me. "I suggest you do a quick review, and note all of the people who've shown up as characters in this play called your life. It has all been perfect. Your ex-spouse showed up at just the right time - when you needed to create those children you love so much. The fatherwho walked out on you so that you could learn self-reliance left right on time. The lover who abandoned you was a part of this perfection. The lover who stayed with you was also taking his or her cues from the Source. "........... Confession: I stopped there and cried. I also let my huge ego jump in and apply every word -literally- to my life. I have a deceased ex-spouse (no children) I have a husband that has given me a magnificent, unique pre-teen son. I have been emotionally divorced from him for about 3 years (seperate bedrooms) so I labeled him as "Your ex-spouse" above. My father raised me solo from age 5-15. He was absent a lot due to business and I was very self reliant. At age 15 he was convicted of a felony, that forced me to move in my my estranged mother (she was NOT a great mother- at all) so I took the label for "the father who walked out" above. Then after 7 faithful years with the man I lost my virginity to, I slipped into an affair as an unknowing OW to a thoughtless MM. He got the label of "The lover who abandoned". Fast forward 16 years to my current lifeless marriage and this fabulous lover who knows me better than I know myself! Ta Da! he gets the label "The lover who stayed". (I don't see that NOW....blindfool I was) OK, let's finish that paragraph above, shall we? "The good times, the struggles, the tears, the abuse--all of it involved people coming into your life and then leaving. And all of your tears will not and cannot wash out one word of it." There is SO much more in this book, but I'm obsessed with this chapter, while my heart breaks. I'll move on when I can. Until then, I hope it's not wrong for me to share these words verbatim. I strongly recommend the book to anyone, under any circumstance. Dr. Wayne W. Dyer - The Power of Intention
Tony Posted June 26, 2006 Senior Moderators Posted June 26, 2006 The above seems a powerful pitch to buy a book. However, the member has a history here and the post has merit. There are quotes of copyrighted material. However, the member has properly attributed them to the author in the context of what seems an independent book review so we'll leave it for now. Normally, copyrighted material of this length is deleted. Moderator has deleted links in signature, one of them to a commericial (for profit) site.
Author bunset Posted June 26, 2006 Author Posted June 26, 2006 Thank you, Tony. I posted these quoted words in reply to a request for more information about why I have particular views. That book is the current inspiration and I note that I will continue to post my observations, but recommend if someone wishes to know more about their basis, that they look into this book. As for the sig, it was an unintentional and misplaced carryover from something else. Your removal of it is actually welcome. I'll just put the tag line back w/o any links. Thank you again for your support.
movinon05 Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 Buns, It is my intention to buy this book. Not because I think you are trying to sell it, but because you have clearly demonstrated valid reasons that I have taken away from what you've written, for me to do so. Other books have been suggested by others, some I've read, some not. But I do want to thank you for pointing these things out. I think its going to be an awesome read. I've seen him on tv before and I enjoy his thinking processes.
Author bunset Posted June 26, 2006 Author Posted June 26, 2006 Buns, It is my intention to buy this book. Not because I think you are trying to sell it, but because you have clearly demonstrated valid reasons that I have taken away from what you've written, for me to do so. Other books have been suggested by others, some I've read, some not. But I do want to thank you for pointing these things out. I think its going to be an awesome read. I've seen him on tv before and I enjoy his thinking processes. MO, I do not want to take original credit for some of the things I learn. I just want others to know what resources have worked for me. I would never plagerize, nor commercialize/capitalize on anyone's strife. So while I will post my views, I think it's only fair to qualify them, and explain what filter they pass through. Only giving credit where it's due and allowing others to decide how to take or leave what I share on face value. Also trying to point out how easy it is to interpret anything you want into what you read.
UnknowingOW Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 Thanks Bun, I look for it this week...needin' the guidence of those who can "SHOW ME THE WAY!"
RealityCheck Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 Buns.... Further to Tony's post.... His words are true and valid. The irony to Tony's post and bringing this forward, is that MO just discovered last night, one of my copywritten works on another site and sent me the link via email! As a Writer I don't mind telling you how pissed I am! I will definately be checking that out today as far as the legal route goes. Grrrrrrr.........
Author bunset Posted June 26, 2006 Author Posted June 26, 2006 Buns.... Further to Tony's post.... His words are true and valid. The irony to Tony's post and bringing this forward, is that MO just discovered last night, one of my copywritten works on another site and sent me the link via email! As a Writer I don't mind telling you how pissed I am! I will definately be checking that out today as far as the legal route goes. Grrrrrrr......... RC, That's just wrong.... I see no harm in posting and printing some excerpts with others' work, as long as credit is properly assigned along with encouragement to patronize the entire work. As a consumer, if I don't get the original work, how do I know what's really behind the words? I need to know the Big Picture in order to know how to interpret the message. without proper credit, its fraudulent and potentially harmful to the reader, not to mention the livelyhood of the original producer. Go get 'em! (Oh and always remember - only believe half of what you see with your own eyes, and just about none of what you don't - that's why I encourage you all to look inward and owtward for your selves)
RealityCheck Posted June 26, 2006 Posted June 26, 2006 RC, That's just wrong.... I see no harm in posting and printing some excerpts with others' work, as long as credit is properly assigned along with encouragement to patronize the entire work. As a consumer, if I don't get the original work, how do I know what's really behind the words? I need to know the Big Picture in order to know how to interpret the message. without proper credit, its fraudulent and potentially harmful to the reader, not to mention the livelyhood of the original producer. Go get 'em! (Oh and always remember - only believe half of what you see with your own eyes, and just about none of what you don't - that's why I encourage you all to look inward and owtward for your selves) Bun... When it comes to "copyrights" there are legal ramifications. Its not wrong should someone post their interpretation of "copywritten" material. I should clairify for any of the readers, that a "shared email" is hardly copywritten works. Some of you are aware of where I'm going with this one! *wink*
Tony Posted June 26, 2006 Senior Moderators Posted June 26, 2006 RC, That's just wrong.... I see no harm in posting and printing some excerpts with others' work, as long as credit is properly assigned along with encouragement to patronize the entire work. As a consumer, if I don't get the original work, how do I know what's really behind the words? The problem is that quoting copyrighted material in any way is against LoveShack.org's guidelines and terms of service. That's what makes it wrong on this forum. However, for the reasons you clearly stated in your post I have let it remain. Hopefully, Dr. Dyer, who seems to be a pretty nice man, would very much appreciate being quoted in a review that may sell some of his books. Reprinting of copyrighted material on this forum is strictly prohibited and will be deleted. The above is an exception.
Blind Illusion Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 Copyright & quoting ramifications & aside, I never mind when a poster speaks of a book. In fact, I already purchased one mentioned several times on the Infidelity and this board. I suppose, like everything else in life, it's the way it is presented but I am always in need of good reads and advice :) The flip side of not being able to quote a specific source implies that an idea is your own and that is plagarism. I suppose there is a balance there as well. While I can see the basis for this forum's prohibition on links, those don't bother me either. In fact, I like them; me being all sorts of lazy and all!!
Tony Posted June 27, 2006 Senior Moderators Posted June 27, 2006 I did not mean to hijack this thread into a discussion of copyrights nad LoveShack.org policy. In my post above, rather than delete this thread with no explanation I wanted to let members know our policy on quoting copyrighted material. In no way did I mean for this thread to move away from the original topic onto a completely new discussion. We have so many people coming and going here and I feel that's the best way of getting things across. I am so very sorry this thread has moved away from the original topic and I pray that it will get back on course. Many thanks.
Blind Illusion Posted June 27, 2006 Posted June 27, 2006 I apologize for my post that led to thread deflection. Back to the issue at hand: I think that the exercise that you speak of, Bunset, helps one to put themselves in the drivers seat with an active, not reactive outlook on one's own life. It also shows how we gain something from even "bad" relationships. Thus, even those, have merit and benefit. I like the idea of looking at one's life as a play.
Author bunset Posted June 27, 2006 Author Posted June 27, 2006 I apologize for my post that led to thread deflection. Back to the issue at hand: I think that the exercise that you speak of, Bunset, helps one to put themselves in the drivers seat with an active, not reactive outlook on one's own life. It also shows how we gain something from even "bad" relationships. Thus, even those, have merit and benefit. I like the idea of looking at one's life as a play. The play metaphor has existed forever.. eh? But there are lots of things that this excercise can provide.. first it allows us to create labels for the experiences, then by repeating the exercise at different points in our lives, we may change those labels. Ultimately it helps us to see that we've actually survived these losses. all of it involved people coming into your life and then leaving. ... notice that? Don't know why I didn't before this mess.
movinon05 Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Hey Bunset, You don't have a PM yet, but I was wondering if you could PM me with your e-mail address. I have some questions about this thread.
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