John's guide to catching & keeping women

[Outcast]

The Guide to Writing a "How to get women" Guide

 

Bravo! :lmao:

[Tony T]

What? Another guide to keeping women?

 

Yep! However, all guidelines for keeping them aside, I think technique and dick size are good for six months. Then it goes into bank account size for six months. Then it goes into how big an engagement ring you get her for six months to a year. After that, it's wedding planning. Once married, it's how many kids you have. Once the kids are born, you just sort of skid along until they get sick and tired of you or they cheat.

 

No, this isn't true for all. Many become fixated at the first stage and then move on.

[pricillia]

In the real world your guide will not work, we are not robots or actors and don't go by some script. Men and women are attracted to each other for different reasons, when you go on a date if you are attracted to the man or woman and there is chemistry and it feels right then you can make the first move if it is right.

 

Waiting to call someone that is BS what if they died tomorrow, a horrid thought but, if you like someone without overdoing it then it is ok to

let them know.

 

What happened to passion and romance and butterflys, and just letting things happen your guide is nothing more then words on a "page"

[Outcast]

Yep! However, all guidelines for keeping them aside, I think technique and dick size are good for six months. Then it goes into bank account size for six months. Then it goes into how big an engagement ring you get her for six months to a year. After that, it's wedding planning. Once married, it's how many kids you have. Once the kids are born, you just sort of skid along until they get sick and tired of you or they cheat.

 

Finally some good sense! :laugh:

[Craig]

John1776, hey man I'm not a big fan of relationship/romance recipes so I'm kind of biased but here are some questions for you...

 

What do you do if she calls you before the first 3 days are up?

 

What if a woman asks for your phone number and doesn't give hers?

 

Is it OK to get exclusive with her after 6 dates--even if they occur in the first week of knowing her?

 

You say let her talk 75% of the time. What if she is really quiet and doesn't like to talk much?

 

How will I know if it's love or infatuation? What if she doesn't know the difference and tells me she loves me first but it is at week 4?

 

If the infatuation stage feels like real love then how do you tell the difference between infatuation and real love?

 

any kind of sex outside of marriage should be done only on special occasions.

 

Do you mean like birthdays and Christmas?

 

[Outcast]

If the infatuation stage feels like real love then how do you tell the difference between infatuation and real love?

 

One lasts; the other doesn't.

[alphamale]

Don't we need a guide to all these guides?

[Walk]

I read through most of it, and I will grudgingly admit that the clingy part, the unpredictable, and the giving without expecting in return, were good points.

 

HOWEVER......

Never argue with your girlfriend. Play it cool.

When she says or does something that offends you then

it's best that you keep your mouth shut. Do not talk

with her about it otherwise you will come across as a

condescending lecturer. Women will tune you out fast

if they feel that you are being a lecture daddy. Also never apologize to her. You can admit that you were wrong and make restitution wherever possible but do not apologize.

Instead communicate to her with action that you find her behavior unacceptable.

 

For example if she does not return your calls then

don't return hers.

 

This part is childish. Tit for tat kind of philosophy. You hurt me so I'll hurt you back.

 

And the "Never apologize"?? What that says to me is that I am dealing with someone who is so incredibly insecure that to admit error would crush their delicate ego. That in order to maintain their fantasy of being a good person, they have to create a make believe world in which everything they do is perfect. I don't want to live in a fantasy world. I live in the real world, and every one screws up at some point. Real character is knowing when to say you're sorry, and for what you're apologizing for. That is what you aren't understanding. You think its a weakness to apologize, but what you fail to see is that the only weakness is in not allowing the other person the consideration of knowing you regret your actions. Instead, you allow them to believe something false while you hide the truth out of fear. That's pathetic.

[john1776]

John1776, hey man I'm not a big fan of relationship/romance recipes so I'm kind of biased but here are some questions for you...

 

What do you do if she calls you before the first 3 days are up?

 

What if a woman asks for your phone number and doesn't give hers?

 

Is it OK to get exclusive with her after 6 dates--even if they occur in the first week of knowing her?

 

You say let her talk 75% of the time. What if she is really quiet and doesn't like to talk much?

 

How will I know if it's love or infatuation? What if she doesn't know the difference and tells me she loves me first but it is at week 4?

 

If the infatuation stage feels like real love then how do you tell the difference between infatuation and real love?

 

 

 

Do you mean like birthdays and Christmas?

 

 

 

If she calls you before the 3 days are up then most likely she is really into you. If that's the case then you can drop the rules and take turns calling her. Just make sure she takes her turn calling you. If she doesn't then reinforce the 3 day, 5 day, 8 day guideline. The ratio of calls should be 1:1.

 

If she asks for your phone number and doesn't give you hers then it means she's probably taken and doesn't want you to know it yet. She doesn't want you calling her house and risk her boyfriend answering the phone.

 

It's alright to get exclusive after 6 dates or 2 months (whichever comes last). I estimated that the average person would have gone out on 6 dates after 2 months. That would be 1 date every 10 days (1.5 weeks) approximately. Some people don't have time to go out on 6 dates in 2 months time so for them it may take longer than 2 months to establish exclusivity. But I think waiting 2 months at minimum is a pretty good bet regardless if you have already gone out on 6 or 16 dates.

 

If the girl doesn't like to talk much then either she may be shy or she really isn't into you. Depends. Ask her questions to see if she opens up. If she is always giving 1-2 word answers to your questions then that's not a good sign.

 

Only time will tell if your relationship is real love or infatuation. It's only when your relationship stands the tests of time. Testings and trials of life will reveal what your relationship is made out of. Is she going to dump you when you are going through difficulties emotionally or is she going to give you emotional support? There's no way of telling the difference during seasons where everything is going well like roses & sunshine.

 

Having sex on special occasions include yes birthdays, christmas, 4th of july, thanksgiving, valentine's day, easter, etc. On average there is a special occasion once every 40-50 days. I have sex once every 40-44 days.

[Tim'sAngel]

Having sex on special occasions include yes birthdays, christmas, 4th of july, thanksgiving, valentine's day, easter, etc. On average there is a special occasion once every 40-50 days. I have sex once every 40-44 days.

 

Look here folks!! We have another Radiation here!! If that was the case with me, I'd be one hell of a sexually frustrated person!!

 

I'm very curious, where is it you get your "facts"? Do you have a degree? Maybe a degree in bulls***!!

[Pyro]

Having sex on special occasions include yes birthdays, christmas, 4th of july, thanksgiving, valentine's day, easter, etc. On average there is a special occasion once every 40-50 days. I have sex once every 40-44 days.

 

My goodness.

 

How can one deprive themself so much?

[RecordProducer]

I only try. Not much success so far.

Well when women get to know you enough to have sex with you (a few hours after you've introduced yourself), they make sure they take their BC pill!

 

Alpha, it's true that nobody is 100% secure, but when you need a special, detailed guide for catching someone, it means that you're not the best catch really. You are looking for someone who will fall for your strategies, not you. If a woman doesn't care if you don't call for 8 days, it means she didn't even notice you didn't call.

 

My husband called me on Thursday or Friday from the US the first time and told me he'd call me again on Monday. I thought he wasn't interested in me if he would say that so I forgot about him and took him off my dating site's hot list. He emailed me asking why I did that and I explained to him why. He thought I was just playing games, but I didn't.

 

I always assume that if I don't click with someone right away and the relationship doesn't progress fast to something special that he is not interested in me. I don't consider myself super-secure or too insecure, but I don't want to waste my time on a guy who is not interested in me. If he has talked to me for a few hours on the phone or in person and didn't find me interesting enough, I am offended rather than intrigued. And being offended is not a good start for a healthy relationship. At the end, it boils down to whether the guy is cute, kind, smart, funny, successful, and good-hearted.

 

f*** that bulls*** with the guides that will make me feel smaller than a puppy seed! I don't like to feel like a victim. Haven't you ever heard that a woman will fall in love with a guy who makes her feel good about herself (assuming he's the right one, not a loser)?

[Walk]

Every day is a special day for me! So I guess I will have sex every day!!!!

 

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tim'sAngel]

With all these "guides" on hoe to catch us and keep us, I'm starting to feel women are toys that require manuals.

 

If a man asked of my number, and didn't call me within the next 2 days or so, I would come to the conclusion he wasn't interested and move on to someone else. It wouldn't turn me off or make me think he was clingy if he called me the day after we met, in fact, I'd be very excited!!

[Tim'sAngel]

Aww RP you met your hubby off an online dating site too? I was beginning to think I was the only one.

 

I have sex every day sometimes twice a day, I guess that makes me clingy... I love being clingy!!! SO isn't complaining about it either!! :bunny: :bunny:

[Pyro]

Aww RP you met your hubby off an online dating site too? I was beginning to think I was the only one.

 

I have sex every day sometimes twice a day, I guess that makes me clingy... I love being clingy!!! SO isn't complaining about it either!! :bunny: :bunny:

 

No, that just makes you a nympho, or a sex-aholic.

[blind_otter]

Every day is a special day for me! So I guess I will have sex every day!!!!

 

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I second that.

[j.carsey]

If I had a guy do that "wait 3 days, wait 5 days" b*lls*** on me I'd send him packing. That's ridiculous. If you want to be with someone, there are no rules on how often you should talk to them...

 

I dunno... it is important to not appear desperate because it is a huge turn-off. Most of the women I meet casually are not instantly attracted to me so I have to be careful about how to get a second meeting (this is one of my biggest problems)

 

Calling too often is weird, creepy, desperate and makes women wonder things like:

 

is he obsessive / weird / dangerous?

doesn't he have other things to do?

why don't other women want him?

he's going to get too serious too fast if I do see him

[rkman]

With all these "guides" on hoe to catch us and keep us, I'm starting to feel women are toys that require manuals.

 

I wonder sometimes how much better off the world would be if such a manual ever existed. I'm willing to bet nothing would change, we don't really have the patience for instruction manuals anyhow, let alone follow them

[rkman]

I dunno... it is important to not appear desperate because it is a huge turn-off. Most of the women I meet casually are not instantly attracted to me so I have to be careful about how to get a second meeting (this is one of my biggest problems)

 

Calling too often is weird, creepy, desperate and makes women wonder things like:

 

is he obsessive / weird / dangerous?

doesn't he have other things to do?

why don't other women want him?

he's going to get too serious too fast if I do see him

 

In all of my previous longterm relationships, the girl persued me just as much as I did her, at times even more. It's a good thing too, otherwise it never would have picked up. The ones who have something substantial to offer, usually enjoy the moments they are given.

 

In the end, if they dig you, they're worrying about the same things you are, not that you are bugging them.

[Pyro]

In all of my previous longterm relationships, the girl persued me just as much as I did her, at times even more. It's a good thing too, otherwise it never would have picked up. The ones who have something substantial to offer, usually enjoy the moments they are given.

 

In the end, if they dig you, they're worrying about the same things you are, not that you are bugging them.

 

Just remember that we all have different outlooks on what calling too often is defined as.

 

For me, I do talk to my SO everyday. We don't see each other everyday but I still contact her just to say hi or something like that. A majority of our phone conversations are kept short. I do believe that its possible to keep in close contact with your SO and also maintain your own life with your own friends.

[RecordProducer]

I dunno... it is important to not appear desperate because it is a huge turn-off.

How can you appear desperate if you're not desperate?

 

Oooohhhhh, you ARE desperate so you'll try to hide it. I've met guys online who spent a lot of time with me online as well as those who didn't spend but a few minutes every other day. If the man was not interesting enough to me, it just took longer for me to discover that if we would spend less time talking.

 

If you don't call someone after having sex with them, it's rude and sends the message "I just wanna be your FWB... if you're lucky to get a call from me ever again."

 

Once I slept with a guy and expected him to call me. After 3 days i realized it was just sex and nothing will ever develop from what I thought was a beginning of a new relationship. If he called me on the 4th day, I would have assumed that he needs more sex and turned him down. He called me 6 months later and said: "Hi, this is D!" I said "D who?" (pretended I didn't remember him at all). Then he said: "You don't know any D?" So I risked to sound like a slut that doesn't remember who screwed me and had to "recall" him, but I turned down his offer to have a "drink" with him.

[j.carsey]

How can you appear desperate if you're not desperate?

 

Oooohhhhh, you ARE desperate so you'll try to hide it.

 

Yes, I sure will try to hide it.

 

If I'm desperate then I'm desperate... I miss having a dedicated partner around. It's something I crave.

 

Should desperate women not try to hide their desparation?

 

How about neurotic women, or women with baggage, or ex boyfriend problems. Don't you think they would be better off hiding these extremely unattractive sides? Or should they "be themselves" and scare away every man they encounter. Give me a break, you always have to manage your image when meeting people and spending time with them.

 

Everyone should put their best foot forward. Yes other truths will come out later, but people grow more accepting and comfortable with someone over time. When it's early on in a relationship or dating, you have to be very careful what you say or do.

[blind_otter]

Yes, I sure will try to hide it.

 

If I'm desperate then I'm desperate... I miss having a dedicated partner around. It's something I crave.

 

Should desperate women not try to hide their desparation?

 

no, they should probably figure out why they are so desperate and then attend to that before attempting a relationship based on artificially created facades and fake outs and a deceitful presentation of who they are at the core of their being, though.

 

How about neurotic women, or women with baggage, or ex boyfriend problems. Don't you think they would be better off hiding these extremely unattractive sides? Or should they "be themselves" and scare away every man they encounter. Give me a break, you always have to manage your image when meeting people and spending time with them.

 

I have a well documented nightmarishly awful past that includes molestation, 2 rapes, a failed marriage, and other delightful experiences. I learned in therapy (long years of therapy) that it served no good purpose to hide these issues, and I haven't ever had a problem attracting men. My biggest problem has been men who don't know themselves well enough to BE with a partner like me.

 

When it's early on in a relationship or dating, you have to be very careful what you say or do.

 

If you want them to get attached to an incomplete idea of who you are, and then mysteriously face trust issues or relationship problems when you're knee deep in the relationship and suddenly feel comfortable enough to expose your true nature.

 

Then your new GF will post on LS "Why is he so different now? In the beginning of our relationship I had a totally different idea of who he was!"

 

I'm just saying. When I make a good, authentic love connection -- it's because I accept the person, and all their flaws and ugly parts, and all their strengths and pretty parts. If they hide who they are, it turns me off in a big way.

[john1776]

My goodness.

 

How can one deprive themself so much?

 

How can I not? I'd be happy if I get to the point where I can completely abstain from sex until marriage. So much for the better. It's bad enough that I feel guilty for having sex even on special occasions. I have given my girlfriend no reason to want to sleep with me.