Woggle Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 As good as it is right now she is still a woman and a man never knows when a woman will up and leave. I believe that women don't truly love men but just love what they can get out of us. Women view men as toys to be used and discarded. I know she has an ulterior motive but I just can't figure it out yet and it is bugging the crap out of me. I don't want to spend my life wondering when she is going to finally walk out on me and if we have kids she will probably push me out of their lives. It just seems like to big a risk to me.
Tim'sAngel Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 As good as it is right now she is still a woman and a man never knows when a woman will up and leave. I believe that women don't truly love men but just love what they can get out of us. Women view men as toys to be used and discarded. I know she has an ulterior motive but I just can't figure it out yet and it is bugging the crap out of me. I don't want to spend my life wondering when she is going to finally walk out on me and if we have kids she will probably push me out of their lives. It just seems like to big a risk to me. Wow, didn't you just post something the other day about moving to NY with your fiancee? It isn't fair to generalize all women into one catagory. I used to feel the above was true for all men. Now for once in my life I have learned to let go and I am completely in love w/my SO. I am a women and I love everything about him. I love falling asleep in his arms every night, I love cooking his dinner, I love watching his face when he talks to me, I love how thick his chest feels when I hug him... I could go on and on. In a way I guess you are right, I do love what I get from my SO, his upmost respect for me as a women and as his gf, his unconditional love, his faithfulness and his support. It sounds like you've maybe been burned in the past and that is why you are having a hard time believe that this women really loves you and isn't going to start packing her bag whenever she gets a notion to. Are you being everything you can be to her? Do you give her reason to want to leave? If not, then do you feel maybe like it's too good to be true? And just to throw a lil defense in here, women never know when men will up and cheat on us, but does that stop us from trusting them? If everyone just stopped trusting everyone, then there would be no more love, no more happiness. Its a give and take issue. Until one of you betrays the other, then why stop believing in them? Or has she done something that makes you suspicious?
Author Woggle Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 She is away for the weekend and I was hanging out with a friend of mine who had his wife cheat on him and man did he talk some sense into me.
Tim'sAngel Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 She is away for the weekend and I was hanging out with a friend of mine who had his wife cheat on him and man did he talk some sense into me. So she is showing suspicious behavior?
Chump64 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Woggle, I think you should break it off, and never get married. At least not to a woman. I have not even been around here at LS for very long, and I can think of at least 10 threads you have started, all of which bashed the female gender and made huge, negative generalizations about anyone who sits down to pee. You even admitted that you had an uber feminist mother and that it damaged your perception of females and scarred you for life. Every time a friend of yours has a marriage or relationship problem, you come here and start a thread about it, and generalize the problem to every woman that walks the earth. I am very sorry for sounding harsh, but I believe you are damaged beyond the point of repair when it comes to women. You have written off the entire gender as being manipulative, greedy, unfaithful, etc. etc. I think it’s time to face the fact that you will never be able to trust a woman and live with her as husband and wife. As for your friend, men are much more likely to cheat than women. You really should be careful with the generalizations, but I know that you won’t be. I’m sorry you are so emotionally bankrupt when it comes to women. It’s very sad. Have you thought about getting a dog?
Author Woggle Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 So she is showing suspicious behavior? No but I just flat out think it is too much of a risk.
Dagny Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Then stop talking about it or even posting about it, break it off, and don't lead the fiance on so she can get on with her life and find another man. A marriage should be built on mutual love and respect and I have not seen an consideration or concern for your fiance's feelings. Instead its just suspicion and distrust. If you're not ready and its not worth it. then let her go.
Outcast Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 And women have to deal with the likes of you - no wonder they turn against men. You are being absolutely ridiculous. You have described yourself as a 'genius' yet I see zero logical thought here. One talk from your so-called 'friend' is enough to destroy what you've called a wonderful relationship. Shame on you for being too weak to think for yourself. And I'm very, VERY sorry for the poor fool who got involved with you. I wish she'd come to LS where we could have told her to steer clear of a man with the huge issues you've got. I'm disgusted.
Tim'sAngel Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 No but I just flat out think it is too much of a risk. Hm...well your not providing any details so it's hard to respond. It sounds to me like your the one most likely to up and leave, not her. So I really don't know what your worried about. As for your friend... yea listening to other people's sob stories (yea, as insensitive as that sounds, they really are) I get a little paranoid myself. My SO has even noticed that because I come to him alot with questions and tell him my fears.
Chump64 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Do a search on Woggle's posts. You will see that he is entirely consumed with the evils of people without penises. Woggle, are you really so impressionable? I can't believe your friend talked you into a lifelong fear of cheating / fear of women. Just yesterday you commented here that you are in a "strong and healthy" relationship.
radiation7740 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 I can identify with woggle for the most part. Women find us disposable if we get paralyzed in a car accident.
Author Woggle Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 Also my friend thinks I am getting soft and when i think about it I am.
radiation7740 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Also my friend thinks I am getting soft and when i think about it I am. I've said before that women are creatures that need to be feared and avoided as much as possible like the plague. They will almost always look for a reason to leave. Let's face it. They want perfection in a relationship. If you don't fear women then there's something wrong with you. Don't open that door for her to steal your soul.
Tim'sAngel Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Hmm.. I must be a different breed from which you guys speak of. So I take it men are perfect and do no wrong? It isn't about men and women, it is about people. People are imperfect and therefore make mistakes on a daily basis. Woggle, I looked back at a post where you said you had a happy healthy relationship. Unless you have some hardcore evidence of your gf is leaving you then I'd say you are a bit fickle and suggest staying away from sad little men trying to convince the world that just because his wife cheated on him then that means everyones wives will and get a backbone of your own. I can't stand codependant people who have to feed off of everyone elses ideas and have none of their own. Get a friggin life!! And to radiation, sorry dude, but after reading your other posts, your way of thinking is just a bit creepy. Something bad must have happened to you guys to be stuck in the back of your shell. What ever happened to manly men that took risks and didn't cry about it?
Guest Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Sounds like you just have a problem with women in general. In which it doesnt look like you'd like getting married ever.
Sand&Water Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 No but I just flat out think it is too much of a risk. What if your fiance is the exception? If you decide to walk away, because you fear the worst then you'll miss out on a chance of a lifetime. Everything, at one point, is a risk. You walking across the street is a risk. Clearly, from your posts, it sounds like you can't truely commit and love this woman wholely. It's sad! Really, I think you should 'run through everything' in your head.
radiation7740 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 All I have to do is continue reading these boards. The stories I read in the dating forums, break up forums, divorce forums just reinforce my beliefs. I didn't have these fears and doubts before I came to LS but this place is addicting and cultic. I should have never found this place. It was a mistake.
Tim'sAngel Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 All I have to do is continue reading these boards. The stories I read in the dating forums, break up forums, divorce forums just reinforce my beliefs. I didn't have these fears and doubts before I came to LS but this place is addicting and cultic. I should have never found this place. It was a mistake. Yea you sound a little prone to addictions. Maybe you should seek professional help
radiation7740 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Then again there was a reason God allowed me to find this website. Maybe it is a good thing that these stories I read have put the fear of women in me. It seems that women want a perfect relationship. But perfection is unattainable and undefineable. Everyone has different definitions of what constitutes a perfect man.
Mary3 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Wow, didn't you just post something the other day about moving to NY with your fiancee? It isn't fair to generalize all women into one catagory. I used to feel the above was true for all men. Now for once in my life I have learned to let go and I am completely in love w/my SO. I am a women and I love everything about him. I love falling asleep in his arms every night, I love cooking his dinner, I love watching his face when he talks to me, I love how thick his chest feels when I hug him... I could go on and on. In a way I guess you are right, I do love what I get from my SO, his upmost respect for me as a women and as his gf, his unconditional love, his faithfulness and his support. It sounds like you've maybe been burned in the past and that is why you are having a hard time believe that this women really loves you and isn't going to start packing her bag whenever she gets a notion to. Are you being everything you can be to her? Do you give her reason to want to leave? If not, then do you feel maybe like it's too good to be true? And just to throw a lil defense in here, women never know when men will up and cheat on us, but does that stop us from trusting them? If everyone just stopped trusting everyone, then there would be no more love, no more happiness. Its a give and take issue. Until one of you betrays the other, then why stop believing in them? Or has she done something that makes you suspicious? Such a beautiful Post !
Mary3 Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Woggle, I think you should break it off, and never get married. At least not to a woman. I have not even been around here at LS for very long, and I can think of at least 10 threads you have started, all of which bashed the female gender and made huge, negative generalizations about anyone who sits down to pee. You even admitted that you had an uber feminist mother and that it damaged your perception of females and scarred you for life. Every time a friend of yours has a marriage or relationship problem, you come here and start a thread about it, and generalize the problem to every woman that walks the earth. I am very sorry for sounding harsh, but I believe you are damaged beyond the point of repair when it comes to women. You have written off the entire gender as being manipulative, greedy, unfaithful, etc. etc. I think it’s time to face the fact that you will never be able to trust a woman and live with her as husband and wife. As for your friend, men are much more likely to cheat than women. You really should be careful with the generalizations, but I know that you won’t be. I’m sorry you are so emotionally bankrupt when it comes to women. It’s very sad. Have you thought about getting a dog? Very Profound Post
Outcast Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Then again there was a reason God allowed me to find this website. Maybe it is a good thing that these stories I read have put the fear of women in me. It seems that women want a perfect relationship. But perfection is unattainable and undefineable. Everyone has different definitions of what constitutes a perfect man. It is a SERIOUS flaw in logic to think that the posts on a LOVE PROBLEMS BOARD represent all relationships of all humans. I personally know several couples who have lived together happily and in love for twenty and more years. But live your life as a chicken. That's SO much more rewarding than being a real man. Funny how Wog, the King of Bitching about Men Being Emascualted is talking cowardice here. What are yours made of, Wog? Marshmallow?
Vertex Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 It seems as if your worries come from external sources and never your own thoughts. Just because other people have issues doesn't mean those issues exist in your own relationship. You yourself said your fiancee wasn't showing suspicious behavior. Letting other people's bad experiences skew your perspective of an ENTIRE GENDER is a little much. The logic here doesn't make sense to me. You wish to BREAK IT OFF -- a permanent, guaranteed separation, in order to avoid a potential (and unjustified in the present tense) breakup in the future where she may walk out on you. Seems a little effed up. Think about your own experiences and don't assume things that don't need to be assumed. What are you so afraid of? If you never test the waters you'll never enjoy the swim. At some point you need to quit running away from the unknown and face it head on in the best way that you can.
justagirliegirl Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Weren't you married before? What happened in that marriage? No, you shouldn't marry her for her, not for you as frankly I think you'd be a miserable sod to live with.
Author Woggle Posted May 28, 2006 Author Posted May 28, 2006 Weren't you married before? What happened in that marriage? No, you shouldn't marry her for her, not for you as frankly I think you'd be a miserable sod to live with. My ex cheated on me and now she is going to prison for shooting out the windows to my house. I am actually all smiles around her. She has no clue that I am trying to find a way out. She has not done anything yet so I am trying to decide if I really want to end this and if so how to go about it.
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