Lishy Posted April 29, 2006 Posted April 29, 2006 I have to ask ... What is 'the cookie'? I still dont know!!!!!!!
westernxer Posted April 29, 2006 Posted April 29, 2006 I still dont know!!!!!!! It's the warm, moist area leading to your oven? You know, the place that makes most men happy.
Author MadDog Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 So we went out again, this time with a bunch of her friends. She was pretty buzzed by the time I got there and she was being somewhat stand-offish which caught me by surprise. She was acting more like I was a friend than the guy she was dating. Like she didn't really seem to want to hold hands too much, etc. I figured she's the type that doesn't like being too touchy in front of her friends which I can understand. At one point she went off and hung out with her friends for a good amount of time (maybe an hour) which wasn't a big deal--I spent the time talking to her other friends and getting to know them better. I guess I could have seen it as being neglected but I suspect she was subconsciously testing me to see if I'd be too clingly. I played it cool though so I think I passed that test. (Damn girls and their stupid tests.) I'm beginning to think she's feeling a little conflicted about moving in the serious relationship zone (which includes physical intimacy). Either that or she just wants to take it REALLY slow. I didn't see any openings to make a move this time around. I kissed her neck a little on the dance floor but that was about it. I've already caught on to her hesitancy and am going to pull back a little bit and not worry too much about it. If she's interested in taking it further it should be obvious. I think I got blinded by her beauty a little bit early on but I'm back. I've regained my perspective now. Hopefully we'll get a shot of being together cause I still think she's a really cool but if not, no loss on my part. If we don't though, I hope I get some as a parting gift. Haha.
pricillia Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 So we went out again, this time with a bunch of her friends. She was pretty buzzed by the time I got there and she was being somewhat stand-offish which caught me by surprise. She was acting more like I was a friend than the guy she was dating. Like she didn't really seem to want to hold hands too much, etc. I figured she's the type that doesn't like being too touchy in front of her friends which I can understand. At one point she went off and hung out with her friends for a good amount of time (maybe an hour) which wasn't a big deal--I spent the time talking to her other friends and getting to know them better. I guess I could have seen it as being neglected but I suspect she was subconsciously testing me to see if I'd be too clingly. I played it cool though so I think I passed that test. (Damn girls and their stupid tests.) I'm beginning to think she's feeling a little conflicted about moving in the serious relationship zone (which includes physical intimacy). Either that or she just wants to take it REALLY slow. I didn't see any openings to make a move this time around. I kissed her neck a little on the dance floor but that was about it. I've already caught on to her hesitancy and am going to pull back a little bit and not worry too much about it. If she's interested in taking it further it should be obvious. I think I got blinded by her beauty a little bit early on but I'm back. I've regained my perspective now. Hopefully we'll get a shot of being together cause I still think she's a really cool but if not, no loss on my part. If we don't though, I hope I get some as a parting gift. Haha. Mad Dog I think that it is great that you are respecting her feelings and all Just a red flag that she was stand-offish on your last outing. It seems like she wants the attention from you but is unwilling to show her emotions if she has any. And as far as her testing you for an hour and her talking to her other friends, I wonder if she is ready for a relationship a all. I have a question, have you asked her how she feels, it you say that she seems hesatant, I wonder why... I have never been a girl to just give it up so quickly but I let the guy know I was interested, but not ready yet, without the tests.
Author MadDog Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 Mad Dog I think that it is great that you are respecting her feelings and all Just a red flag that she was stand-offish on your last outing. It seems like she wants the attention from you but is unwilling to show her emotions if she has any. And as far as her testing you for an hour and her talking to her other friends, I wonder if she is ready for a relationship a all. I have a question, have you asked her how she feels, it you say that she seems hesatant, I wonder why... I have never been a girl to just give it up so quickly but I let the guy know I was interested, but not ready yet, without the tests. I wouldn't call it a red flag. I consider a red flag something that indicates there's something wrong with the person (e.g. she's possessive, moody, etc). You're right though, she might not be ready for a relationship. There's nothing to be done except for me to "play my position like a shortstop" and go with the flow. It'd be nice if we got to try out a relationship but if she's not down to give it a shot, oh well. Her loss. I haven't asked her how she feels. It's a bit early to be talking about that; we've only been out on three 1 on 1 dates and our first one was only 2 weeks ago. She might not even know how she feels at this point. I think giving her time is the best thing here. I'm not hell bent on getting into a relationship myself so it's not too big of a deal. If I were already emotionally invested and really wanted to be in a relationship with her, that'd be a different story. Then I'd want to figure out what the deal is ASAP so I don't waste time and energy. Damn, she's lucky to find a guy like me.
pricillia Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 well then good luck Mad dog, sound like this is a challenge for you keep us posted...
Author MadDog Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 well then good luck Mad dog, sound like this is a challenge for you keep us posted... Thanks, I will. Where's the fun without a little challenge?
2sunny Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 I admire that you are able to this as of late... I don't think I would have the willpower at all... my horns are way too big...
Author MadDog Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 I admire that you are able to this as of late... I don't think I would have the willpower at all... my horns are way too big... It's not always easy. I don't call her Cold Shower for nothing.
Lishy Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 Hmmmmmmm - Stay guarded honey! From where I am standing I would say she isnt taking it slow, I would say she is not that interested! A girl could not stand with her friends for an hour when they guy she liked was talking to her other friends, the need to be near him (at the beginning) would be too much! To go out on 3 dates and not even get a kiss smacks of lack of attraction IMHO. There is slow and there is slow but you two are at a full stop! Stand back and look at the signs you are getting and ask yourself what they really mean! But that is just my opinion babe - I am probably wrong!
Author MadDog Posted April 30, 2006 Author Posted April 30, 2006 Hmmmmmmm - Stay guarded honey! From where I am standing I would say she isnt taking it slow, I would say she is not that interested! A girl could not stand with her friends for an hour when they guy she liked was talking to her other friends, the need to be near him (at the beginning) would be too much! To go out on 3 dates and not even get a kiss smacks of lack of attraction IMHO. There is slow and there is slow but you two are at a full stop! Stand back and look at the signs you are getting and ask yourself what they really mean! But that is just my opinion babe - I am probably wrong! Thanks for the opinion but I'm pretty sure the attraction is there. When we're alone we hold hands all the time and otherwise touch each other (in non-sexual ways). I think she was being stand-offish because she wasn't ready to act like a couple in front of all her friends. That's definately understandable. Some people don't like acting like that even if they're in an established relatinship. Regardless, I'm going to make a move on our next date. I don't think I could go much longer without at least a kiss anyway. A guy can only hold off for so long. I'll be able to better assess the situation once I've made a move.
Lishy Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 That is great MD! I just know if I was attracted to a guy I would kiss him!
Author MadDog Posted May 1, 2006 Author Posted May 1, 2006 I've thought more about it and I change my mind. I'll only make a move if the moment's there and I don't have to force it. It's only been 2 weeks since our first date and we've been out 4 times. That's actually not all that much time to get to know someone. I'm 95% sure she's into me. I think she's just wary of getting too involved too early; I think she wants to know we have long-term potential before getting her emotions committed. On our first date when I went for a kiss and she stopped me. She said she waits like 2 months to make out. I thought it was pretty funny but I think she was serious. But yeah, a kiss would be ghetto fabulous.
PlentyLV007 Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I've thought more about it and I change my mind. I'll only make a move if the moment's there and I don't have to force it. It's only been 2 weeks since our first date and we've been out 4 times. That's actually not all that much time to get to know someone. I'm 95% sure she's into me. I think she's just wary of getting too involved too early; I think she wants to know we have long-term potential before getting her emotions committed. On our first date when I went for a kiss and she stopped me. She said she waits like 2 months to make out. I thought it was pretty funny but I think she was serious. But yeah, a kiss would be ghetto fabulous. Man oh man have I missed out...where the hell was I???? I'm very impressed by you being very understanding to the whole distancy thing...and not getting upset because she was doing her own thing.... Though in my opinion it's like what the hell did she invite you though if she's going to be like that!!? Your right...I hate games!!! They are stupid but, yet it seems to keep you interested no?
2sunny Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I think if you were invited and she knew it was a group setting - then it's only POLITE of her to make sure you didn't feel like an outsider... This is just common courtesy! There is a difference when everyone in the group has known each other a long time and you just get separated for a while, as long as you check in on the person to make sure they are comfortable and all... If you generally ignore the person you brought and expect them to fend for themselves, well this is just plain rude behavior. Why bring someone you end up ignoring? It doesn't take much effort to whisper in their ear a few times - or to touch them on the elbow or hold their hand to reassure them that you are happy for their presence on that occasion.... I personally think it was rude of her.... maybe she's the selfish and self centered type that will always think of your needs last?????? Dunno...
Lishy Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I think you will find that she is not the girl you think she is hon! I hate saying it cos you seem so very lovely MD! I also think she was being rude, inviting you and ignoring you! I also have a feeling that you feel she is out of your range a bit and that is why you are so willing to wait, you know you feel like you will be getting the prize! YOU are the prize MD ....... Dont forget it!
PlentyLV007 Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I think you will find that she is not the girl you think she is hon! I hate saying it cos you seem so very lovely MD! I also think she was being rude, inviting you and ignoring you! I also have a feeling that you feel she is out of your range a bit and that is why you are so willing to wait, you know you feel like you will be getting the prize! YOU are the prize MD ....... Dont forget it! Lishy I'm with ya!!! MD---You know I got you...but, c'mon boo, I thought you didn't like playing games that way...? Would you have been that way to her? I don't know...I mean it's been how many dates now and the kiss? I mean...the kiss??? the kiss that tells you what the person is going to be to you!!! We all know that...and she's hesitating ....she's fighthing the urge???!!! Why....? I mean...a kiss.....c'mon...holding off on blowing you...I can understand....even sex...I can understand...sure it's hard...but a kiss...and touching and stuff c'mon.... Damm MD....I hope that when we mingle...I get to meet this chick!!! =) Check out the package.... =) I hate games!!!
Author MadDog Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 Thanks for the concern ladies. It means a lot. Let's see. Where to start. First off, I'm not taking extra crap from her because I think she's out of my league. She's really beautiful, sure, but it's not like she's the first beautiful girl I've gotten with and it's not like I couldn't get another one if I wanted. I really don't feel any girl is out of my league. Second, I don't think she did the whole ignoring thing on purpose. She was pretty tipsy by the time I even showed up which may have been a factor. Also, she's really damn busy and never gets to see her friends. I'm sure she felt an obligation to spend time with them too. Perhaps she just lost track of time and didn't realize how long she'd be gone. There is a chance though she was testing me to see how clingy I'd be which I agree is kinda lame and childish. I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt until I see evidence not to though. Also, when she did come around she got close to me so I could hold her a bit, etc. And at the dinner table, she went to hold my hand under the table which was pretty cool. I think maybe she's still feeling mixed about showing her friends we're too much of a couple (cause technically we're not, we're still just dating.) You're right PLV. I wouldn't have been that way to her. But then again, I've got a clear perspective on things and I don't have any reservations. I know I'm interested in her and don't mind showing it. It's too early to tell exactly what's going on in her head. It could be any number of things like she's not ready for a relationship, she wants a relationship but is taking it super slow (e.g. she's assessing my potential), etc. I'm inclined to just take my time with her and see where it leads. If she ends up not wanting to move forward, no loss on my part. I had fun and can remain single, to the delight of girls around the world. But ya. She'd be foolish to turn me down.
nicki Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Yeah, you'll find out soon enough. Sounds like she is into you, though. The whole hand holding under the table is very cute. The kiss will tell you EVERYTHING. And we want details. I am assuming that you ARE going to go for the kiss on your next date. You know what drives me crazy? When a guy stares at my mouth all night with this lusty look on his face....I'll kiss him for sure when the opportunity presents itself...(like if he gets within 4 inches of my face!)
Vertex Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 MD you drive me mad and I'm not even the one in your position... kiss! Kiss her! Please, for the sake of humanity and all mankind, and for my future offspring, kiss this woman and tell us how it went!
Author MadDog Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 Alright, okay! If I see any kind of opening I'll go for it this time. I can't promise anything though because I don't want to force it. God I can't believe I'm having to work this hard for a kiss. I would have normally been laid backwards and forwards by now. Being mature is lame.
Vertex Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Seriously I wonder if being an immature prick-ass with no consideration for feelings will get me better luck sometimes.
Author MadDog Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 Seriously I wonder if being an immature prick-ass with no consideration for feelings will get me better luck sometimes. Being immature and an ass will get you laid more often. It won't increase your chances of being in a decent relationship though because that requires a decent girl who's both hard to come by and will be turned off by tools.
Touche Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Being immature and an ass will get you laid more often. It won't increase your chances of being in a decent relationship though because that requires a decent girl who's both hard to come by and will be turned off by tools. Very well said!
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