tidal Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 My bf has always had an interest in, let's say, "uncultured" activites; but I like that type of masculinity in a guy, so I never judged him on it. Afterall, it's the balance that makes relationships work. On the phone last night, I told him that I went to the Andy Warhol Museum over the weekend. He responded, "what's that?" I answered, "A museum full of Andy Warhol's works." And he said, "What's Andy Warhol?" Then later on in the phone conversation ((this is a ldr, if you couldn't tell)) I said that I would like to see the St. Louis Arch in Missouri. He had never heard of it. Am I expecting too much from a science person? ((he's an engineer, i'm more liberal arts)). Is knowing who Andy Warhol is not common knowledge? Have most people never heard of the St. Louis Arch? Also, should I even let this bother me? Does our conflicting cultural/social tastes really matter? I'll still partake in the activities he's interested in, and he will so for me.
a4a Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Not sure what a moran is? Does that make me a moron? Nah I am just a idiat. JK.. If it bothers you a little now don't you think it may bother you much more down the road?
catgirl1927 Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Not sure what a moran is? Does that make me a moron? Nah I am just a idiat. :lmao: :lmao:
jerbear Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Engineers, well... I would not say moron but more uncultured in the social graces of culture. Since this is an LDR it is harder. On weekends, at least you two can try to teach and learn from each other. It seems you and him are somewhat not compatible in respects to adventure.
brightskies Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 :lmao: :lmao: Ditto. I must be an uncultured idiat, too.
Author tidal Posted April 17, 2006 Author Posted April 17, 2006 here's the moran reference! /end of threadjack! SO... for future reference, should I not expect knowing the existence of Andy Warhol and anything in the state of missouri to be common knowledge?
a4a Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 here's the moran reference! /end of threadjack! SO... for future reference, should I not expect knowing the existence of Andy Warhol and anything in the state of missouri to be common knowledge? well those are two pretty common knowledge facts I would think. However he may be expecting you to know a tad about engineering as well. It really depends on how much you need to share your interests with the person you are with, and if he is interested in exploring your vision of the world as you see it. It could be a problem in the future if he has no interest at all in those things that you do. Why don't you ask him about it directly without being condesending.
jerbear Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 here's the moran reference! /end of threadjack! Hijacking your own thread and the picture is funny! :lmao: SO... for future reference, should I not expect knowing the existence of Andy Warhol and anything in the state of missouri to be common knowledge? Salus populi suprema lex esto
Sal Paradise Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 I don't think that makes someone a moron. It just means you have different interest. I'm sure there are aspects of the things he is interested in that you're just as clueless about. Things he and others would consider to be common knowledge. Its best not to judge people based on their interest. I'd prefer going to an Art Museum over attending a Wrestling Event. But I don't view my interest in Art being more important or that it makes one more sophisticated than an interest in wrestling. People are into what interest them, no one should be looked down upon for having an interest that isn't viewed as cultured. Especially when most of whats viewed as cultured has little to do with the quality of the activity and more to do with the cost (financially) to engage in it.
TheSwordfish Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 It doesnt make him a moron. I'm interested in lots of subjects, I studied social geographie, history, comunications at univesity and I became a teacher at primary school. Because I enjoy reading about a lot of thinsg, i know a little bit about almost everything. (But when you get in depth I don't know that much). I've bene shocked by twenty year old girls, not knowing a thing about politics as well, but that doesn't make someone a moron. A rellationship is about having fun together and you can learn a lot from each other.
Vertex Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 It doesn't make them a moron. Since you have an interest in this stuff it may not be logical to assume that if someone is not familiar with the content you enjoy, they are moronic. I'm sure there are perhaps things he knows or knows how to do that you aren't familiar with as well.
blind_otter Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 I didn't know about the arches in St. Louis until my BF told me. I haven't actually traveled beyond the east coast and europe, oddly enough, the west is a mystery to me. But I enjoy the ballet, and opera. I dunno, I kind of like when people know about things I don't, and vice versa.
Outcast Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Am I expecting too much from a science person? ((he's an engineer, i'm more liberal arts)). Some science people are highly focused on science and therefore don't pay attention to many more things. A friend of mine took up with a guy like that and found eventually that it was indeed boring since he had little conversation other than about computers, which is what he did for a living, and few interests. Actually, one of the sections of IQ testing is general knowledge. I don't know that he'd come out a 'moron' but he may have fewer IQ points if he's short on general knowledge. In the end, if he's interested in learning and doing new things, his current lack of knowledge won't be a problem but if he shows little interest in anything but his existing knowledge/expertise, then you will get tired of him.
Author tidal Posted April 17, 2006 Author Posted April 17, 2006 okay, it is good to know that some people did not know the existence of the arch ((though, personally, i find it frustrating when people have seen more of other countries than their own)). but my only argument to those who say "i'm sure he knows things that you don't", i only find the Arch thing relevant because I learned about it in elementary school! things that he would know, aside from interests ((like cars)) are things he learned in college! that's as much as i'll argue though, because if it's not common knowledge then i won't bother being upset by it. it just shows that we really are two different people, and i have to decide how i feel about that.
a4a Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Sounds like you do not have a whole lot of respect for this guy. Respect is a vital part of a relationship, even in friendship. Cut your and his losses now. Caliguy (NC MAN) can advise you on NC if you cannot handle it on your own.
aleatoryd Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 I have to ask - are you playing trivial pursuit? Do you want to win local general knowledge quizes. I doubt your boyfriend is anything other than a normal guy. Try hanging out with him and his engineering buddies and see how dumb you feel trying to keep up with the conversation. I'm from the UK and have average knowledge of US history for a European but nothing compared to most of you. Similarly I expect few of you know as much as I do about UK history. It's not a competitive thing. We all learn different things. IMHO life would be boring if we all knew the same things. Something tells me that either your comment was light humoured/result of some frustration or there is some deeper disatisfaction with your partner. I'm sure it was just a random question - after all who would dump someone over some general knowledge - it isn't phone a friend for $1m is it?
ms_jnj Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 I don't think that makes someone a moron. It just means you have different interest. I'm sure there are aspects of the things he is interested in that you're just as clueless about. Things he and others would consider to be common knowledge. Its best not to judge people based on their interest. I'd prefer going to an Art Museum over attending a Wrestling Event. But I don't view my interest in Art being more important or that it makes one more sophisticated than an interest in wrestling. People are into what interest them, no one should be looked down upon for having an interest that isn't viewed as cultured. Especially when most of whats viewed as cultured has little to do with the quality of the activity and more to do with the cost (financially) to engage in it. Yes, I agree that it probably just has different interests. I doubt he is a moron if he is an engineer. It takes a high level of intelligence to go into engineering. He just isn't interested in art and architecture, perhaps? I bet if he tried to tell you about some of the engineering stuff he works on your eyes would glaze over pretty quickly. I know from personal experience that it is challenging to date an "engineer/science" type when you are more an "artsy" type...just different types of intelligence and completely different interests. Maybe you could compromise by you teaching him about your interests in the arts and then giving him his turn to teach you about the more science-related things he is interested in. Good luck!
jerbear Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 I know from personal experience that it is challenging to date an "engineer/science" type when you are more an "artsy" type...just different types of intelligence and completely different interests. I love them artsy types, I'm more the engineer/science, political, and business type. Problem is that sometimes I maybe the bane of their existence. Artsy doesn't really like politics and busines. Opposites sometimes do attract, you can be artistic with engineering/science. Think of those microchips that have pictures on them. Modern art I say. Moranic to her probably.
Citizen Erased Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 I am absolutely a history nut and my boyfriend has no idea what I go on about, but I dont think it makes him a moron if he doesn't know what year JFK was shot, or when Rome was finally overtaken. Sorry, but get over yourself. He is obviously quite an intelligent person or he wouldn't be in engineering.
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