Walk Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, especially seeing as I am a blonde with big boobs... as well as a B.A., an M.A., and a J.D. We sterotype what we fear, don't understand, or feel threatened by. *You* contain a total package that I can't hope to attain, ergo I feel threatened. So I put you in the dumb blonde category, and you're no longer threatening. Makes total sense. ha ha j/k.. (I don't really, just trying to explain why others do it)
catgirl1927 Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I don't post pictures of myself. I do not photograph well, and I don't want to get torn apart by the guys on the site. I have a good friend who is a naturally super skinny blonde with implants (we have the same doctor, I recommended him! We're boob buddies) and she is an attorney. She destroys opposing counsel because she's young (late 20s) and they underestimate her because of her looks. I'm so proud of her...
2sunny Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 I used to find it endearing when I'd enter a law office for a deposition or meeting and someone would think I was either (1) the court reporter, or (2) the deponent (I was recently involved in a case involving a well-known "gentleman's magazine" and many of "the girls" were witnesses), but then I realized that most people have a mental block when it comes to associating attractive, blonde women who have great boobs (yes, I also have IMPLANTS - not LARGE, but they're paid for so they are noticable!) with any sort of intelligence. Granted, I am able to "play dumb" and manipulate people, but that's really not all that much fun... I am brunette - but I also use the dumb approach when needed for manipulation.... works every time! Then you just shoot them down when they least expect it!
jerbear Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Does not work on me to much anymore, but I love the dumb approach. yes, I've been burned once.
2sunny Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Does not work on me to much anymore, but I love the dumb approach. yes, I've been burned once. As a smart gal, sometimes it intimidates men tooooo much! You have to tone things down a bit if you need a certain outcome and you know he's a man that needs to look smarter than you. A simple curious question instead of a direct statement can get the desired results. Much less threatening for a man to handle. Especially if it's coming from a woman...
jerbear Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 As a smart gal, sometimes it intimidates men tooooo much! You have to tone things down a bit if you need a certain outcome and you know he's a man that needs to look smarter than you. A simple curious question instead of a direct statement can get the desired results. Much less threatening for a man to handle. Especially if it's coming from a woman... I love smart women! Especially smart, beautiful (like you all), and older granted it is not part of the OP's purpose of physical attractiveness... Ones that act dumb can really disarm quick. Just like politics, do some opposition research. Those that sometimes act dumb are NOT. Like the ones in the corner are the ones you worry about. Always the quiet ones.
Alexandra Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Man, do I have a talent at missing the threads where the action is, or what?
tinktronik Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 As a smart gal, sometimes it intimidates men tooooo much! You have to tone things down a bit if you need a certain outcome and you know he's a man that needs to look smarter than you. A simple curious question instead of a direct statement can get the desired results. Much less threatening for a man to handle. Especially if it's coming from a woman... Thats so sad, having to dumb yourself down to get a man to pay attention or not be offended. I'm sorry , but I'm a smart very attractive woman and I would never dumb myself down ,if the guy dosn't get it or is intimidated , thats his deal.
Walk Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Alexandra! Nice of you to show up. Your just in time to watch the best part... This is the part where stargazer and catgirl realize that they are long lost sisters, seperated at birth. Identical twins who after years of searching, are finally reunited on LS.
Alexandra Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 LOL boy I want my goddamn PM priviledges at times....
Walk Posted May 4, 2006 Posted May 4, 2006 Thats so sad, having to dumb yourself down to get a man to pay attention or not be offended. I'm sorry , but I'm a smart very attractive woman and I would never dumb myself down ,if the guy dosn't get it or is intimidated , thats his deal. I don't necessarily see it that way, but it depends on the reasons the person does it for. Sometimes the best method in a situation isn't a full frontal attack. What would've caused someone to harden against your views, can be accomplished in an instant by pretending to be less threatening then you really are. To me, it's about using all available options in order to get the best possible outcome for both people. Sometimes that means "playing dumb" and leading the other person with questions to the answer. I think if you shut yourself off to an option that could be available, then your only hurting yourself. Also.. I know this definitely does NOT apply to you, but I know other people are more afraid of "looking" stupid because they worry that they are stupid. And will do anything not to appear dumb.
tinktronik Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 I don't necessarily see it that way, but it depends on the reasons the person does it for. Sometimes the best method in a situation isn't a full frontal attack. What would've caused someone to harden against your views, can be accomplished in an instant by pretending to be less threatening then you really are. To me, it's about using all available options in order to get the best possible outcome for both people. Sometimes that means "playing dumb" and leading the other person with questions to the answer. I think if you shut yourself off to an option that could be available, then your only hurting yourself. Also.. I know this definitely does NOT apply to you, but I know other people are more afraid of "looking" stupid because they worry that they are stupid. And will do anything not to appear dumb.I see what your saying , but does that really qualify as playing dumb ? Or is it just influencing a conversation ?
2sunny Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Thats so sad, having to dumb yourself down to get a man to pay attention or not be offended. I'm sorry , but I'm a smart very attractive woman and I would never dumb myself down ,if the guy dosn't get it or is intimidated , thats his deal. Tink, I think you misinterpreted my intent and the forum it may be delivered and needed in its execution. I suppose I wasn't really thinking socially as much as a slight manipulation in a business meeting. I think I'm not portraying my perspective correctly (what else is new?). Gotts think about how someone could possibly understand it when I am just a silly and bizarre gal anyhoooooooo! :lmao:
tinktronik Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Tink, I think you misinterpreted my intent and the forum it may be delivered and needed in its execution. I suppose I wasn't really thinking socially as much as a slight manipulation in a business meeting. I think I'm not portraying my perspective correctly (what else is new?). Gotts think about how someone could possibly understand it when I am just a silly and bizarre gal anyhoooooooo! :lmao: Actually rereading my own post it sounds much more harsh that what I actually meant . Having it explained to me ,I think instead of dumbing down I percieve what you are doing as influencing a conversation to lead toward the correct conclusion. I didn't mean that you were sad but that anyone ever acting dumb when they are not is sad .I've seen friends do this to get a guy who would never respect them if they knew of their intelligence.I'm sorry if I came off as harsh,it was not meant that way.
catgirl1927 Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Uhhhhh..... Do I know you????? No. From what I've seen of your posts, you couldn't possibly be her. She's very modest and has no idea how pretty she is.
jerbear Posted May 5, 2006 Posted May 5, 2006 Playing dumb depends on the audience. Listening can reveal someone elses abilities so I can do an assessment. In some situations I did play dumb only to wallop over some overconfident person.
bykenore Posted May 6, 2006 Posted May 6, 2006 Why are guys attracted to women like Pamela Anderson, who are all fake tits, fake tan, fake hair colour and pumped up lips? A friend of mine knew her in college - says she's very personable and relatively bright (and this is literally the opinion of an Ivy-League educated laser scientist). He figures the dumb bimbo act is basically... an act(!). Which shouldn't be too surprising - I mean, the woman has a lot of celebrity staying power. Gaggles of would-be celebimbos have faded into obscurity around her. Same thing with Paris Hilton. There are 1000s of blonde heiresses running around, but not many of them have managed to make a high-profile career with absolutely no discernible talent for anything at all and (let's be honest) only modestly above-average looks. I dunno what she's got, but she must have something. Can't act, can't sing, no job, and yet everybody knows who she is. Veeery curious indeed.
Author Noos Posted May 6, 2006 Author Posted May 6, 2006 Someone here asked why blondes with big boobs get picked on and why beauty nad competitiveness is such an issue with women? Have you all been hiding under a rock somewhre? It's an issue because beautiful women, or women who are deemed to fit the societal standard of what is considered beautiful at any given time, are treated better than average women or even above average women. If you are out with a blonde friend who is attractive, she will be treated like a princess and you will treated like a piece of dog poo stuck to a guy's shoe - even if you have more interests, better humour, more intelligence and better wit than the girlfriend you are with. A beautfiul woman can have no hobbies, no interests, no education (self-taught or formal) other than preening and guys will fall over themselves to be her knight in shining armour. This phenomenon drives me nuts. That's why I gt upset about these kinds of women. Because they won the genetic jackpot and rest of us have to compete for attention with that and she has to do nothing, nada. I hate it when smart women dumb down around guys - it's so demeaning and pathetic, especially when all her friends are watching and know she's a prize winner at law school or something. On th subject of scvience and beauty - w'v discussed the attraction of symmetrica featuresd as an indicator of good genes before. Did you know that the closer your waist measurement divided by your hip measurement is to 0.7 is also a scientific indicator of attractiveness to men? Catgirl/Kittenchick - something new for us to obsess over! I'm getting there! Kiiten - if you can't move the punds, lay off juices - they're full of sugar. Eat more salads and increase the intensity and duration of your workouts. I hit a plateau and got past it by taking this advice.
burning 4 revenge Posted May 6, 2006 Posted May 6, 2006 if ah'm permitted ta speak fir masel, ah fancy slags whae hud one too many jellies, ken. ef ya daen't have access ta a junkie cowpin coffin-dodgers will dae in a pinch. ah once shagged a coffin-dodger en some schemie doon by muirhouse, n ah kin tell ya et was radge. the auld hoor gave us the thrush though
mackclint Posted May 16, 2006 Posted May 16, 2006 You could live on Mars, where the women all have their breasts on their backs. They aren't much to look at, but they're a hell of a lot more fun to slow-dance with. (THAT JOKE RECYCLED FROM MACK'S DAD'S JOKES, IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP AMERICAN HUMOR CLASSICS ALIVE!)
catgirl1927 Posted May 16, 2006 Posted May 16, 2006 I've heard of that hip-to-waist ratio, Noos. It's very true, if someone is pretty they have no motivation (except an internal motivation) to do anything at all with their lives. As a matter of fact, it is better for them if they don't do anything with themselves, society seems to prefer that. It's a shame, because pretty girls will end up thinking they are stupid and they'll never develop any character. Then one day they'll get a wrinkle and suddenly they're tossed out on their now-less-than-perfect asses and they have no survival skills and nothing to offer, and they basically have to start at the beginning. It's very unfair to those girls. It's just like with college athletes, they are told school isn't necessary and blow it off because old men are throwing money at them because they can throw a football or run really fast, then they break their ankles and are left with nothing. We shoot horses when their "usefulness" is spent, but athletes and beautiful women are just left to starve. We really need to work toward encouraging everyone to develop character and self respect, and to do the best they can to make their way without relying on something like looks. It's unhealthy for everyone to have values like that.
ronnieromance Posted May 16, 2006 Posted May 16, 2006 It's not that complex. Even a person who exists on regular excercise and good balanced diet wants to lick the cream from a cookie they know isn't going to be nourishing. You know, it's also been my experience that women who make bad relationship material can't cook. It's been a 100% truth rate for me. Interesting, eh? **Please, don't think that I routinely compare women to cuisine and harlots to junk-food. It's just an easily accessible (no pun intended, really) example.** -R-
vi_pn_babe25 Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 In reply to most of these posts, being in that "stereotype" is actually not all it's cracked up to be. It's hard and emotionally draining at least for me. And don't get me wrong, I'm just saying this because I've been around models (I model) and so I know from experience. And it's true we are probably the most insecure just because of the pressure that we have to fit a certain type. But to live in the real world is hard. Yah you can get any guy you want basically but all they want you for is sex, because they fail oversee the outside instead of the inside. Yah you get vip in clubs, but I don't know how many times I've been pinched, groped or indecently approached by guys. Girls are the same way, whereas they like the drama. Actually one of my good friends told me that she hates going out with me because she always gets my seconds, or they don't approach her. well that was hard for me because we've been friends for a long time and the fact that she can't just have fun with me makes me feel bad. Anyway, eating minimal food, having people tell you (guys,friends, family) that you need to gain weight, exercising excessively, worrying about the way you look constantly, and sometimes resorting to things like ephedrine and coke is not fun at all. I hear alot from models that would rather look average and live a normal life instead of all the glitz and glamour, (but definitely not behind the scenes) You definitely aren't taken seriously and somtimes you lose your sense of self respect and worth. In terms of cliche, I think that most "hot" people are actually a "hot mess", I'll admit that it's unfortunately true What a life eh?
jen_jen_heartbroken Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 What I hate is the affect that ones attractiveness has on other women. I have some very insecure girlfriends who actually get mad at me when guys hit on me instead of her. One called me before we were to meet at a cocktail party to ask me not to do my hair. Basically, she wanted me not to put any effort into looking good that evening so that I wouldn't take any of "her" attention. Personally, I think it's all in her head because we are about the same on the attractiveness scale. I think it has more to do with the vibe she sends out that affects whether or not men approach her. It's really hard to be friends with her because of her raging jealousy.
vi_pn_babe25 Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 What I hate is the affect that ones attractiveness has on other women. I have some very insecure girlfriends who actually get mad at me when guys hit on me instead of her. One called me before we were to meet at a cocktail party to ask me not to do my hair. Basically, she wanted me not to put any effort into looking good that evening so that I wouldn't take any of "her" attention. Personally, I think it's all in her head because we are about the same on the attractiveness scale. I think it has more to do with the vibe she sends out that affects whether or not men approach her. It's really hard to be friends with her because of her raging jealousy. It's funny because I just mentioned that a good friend of mine is the exact same way. Actually we aren't even speaking now because of the drama that takes place when we both go out. Our last blowout happened when we visited Las Vegas. We were at a club and she realized something that has been a pattern. Whenever a guy comes up to me and I'm not into him, I'll give him a sarcastic wink and point, not to be rude although it may come across as rude but again some guys you can just kind of tell what they're after. Well when that happens, the guys start talking to my friend asking things about me or sometimes they might show interest in her, but she told me she was mad that she is always second best or not approached at all. I couldn't believe that she was taking it literally, and so I told her to stop worrying about me and get her own game on. Well since then we haven't gone out together, so if she wants to act that way, immature and insecure than fine I guess she's not really my friend anyway. That's mostly why I have more guy friends than girl friends, unless I'm friends with girls similar to me.
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