blind_otter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Oooo! Can you do that? I'm sure you could arrange it in a prenup !!
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I'm sure you could arrange it in a prenup !! AWESOME!
Author carmaenforcer Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 LOL blind_otter you're too funny. And I have nothing too worry about as far as my W needing to hire a dude to help around the house or hand over the remote. Not remote handjob b_o, ok. I give my woman equal access to the living room TV, most of the time she gets full contol over the remote because I'm busy cooking, if I don't agree with what she is wanting to watch I simply go to the bed room and watch what I want or I bring the little bed room TV into the living room and I play my XBOX on it. I help clean, I do laundrey, I do all the cooking, I work on the cars, I clean the cats litter box, massage her on a daily, and I still don't get BJ's. You girls should start a business that offers guys you can rent to do stuff around the house in thongs.
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I think we should because we could make some serious money that way. I would never ask someone to do something to me that they hated, no matter how much I liked it. I wouldn't want to be repulsive to them. If I made him do something that grossed him out, why would he ever want to have sex with me? That's just the way I think about it. I can understand wanting to get yours but if she absolutely hates it? Is it really that important? I'm really asking if it is, it might be. It wouldn't be to ME, but it could be to you.
Author carmaenforcer Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 This to me says that you'd be better off not married or in an open marriage. Monogamy obviously won't work for you. And to compare giving a blow job to giving a massage reaches a whole new level of absurdity. I have no problem being monogamous, if I did I wouldn't have an issue for I would simply get it for free somewhere else if my W didn't want to do it. I just don't think that being monogamous/faithful to one person should give that one person the right to make you go without when ever they want for no good reason. Massaging my W is like her giving me a BJ because it's something that I do for her not because I enjoy it so much because to be honest I couldn't care less if I never have to do it again in my life time, but I do it solely because she enjoys it. Absurdity is a woman thinking that her man can go a lifetime without a BJ.
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Seriously. They are THAT important. I'm really asking. I have given both massages and bjs. They ask no where NEAR the same sacrifice of someone. Have you ever given a BJ? I'm guessing no. TRUST me, pal. NOT the same.
portableversion Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I suggest you use one. So what if it's a guy on the other side. Sounds like all you want is a wet hole around your cokk so a glory hole should suffice. OR, use a warm apple pie, like in the move. Quit whining about BJs. It's not like the world will f***KKing end if you don't get a BJ.
StayClose Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Seriously. They are THAT important. I'm really asking. I have given both massages and bjs. They ask no where NEAR the same sacrifice of someone. Have you ever given a BJ? I'm guessing no. TRUST me, pal. NOT the same. OK, let's use a more valid comparison: bj's to cunnilungus. When my wife & I have a love making session that doesn't include me going down on her, I don't neccesarily think I'm missing out. But I love going down on her when she's really into it, because of what it does for her. So why shouldn't a woman like BJs for what they do for him, especially when he's happy to return the favor?
No Stress Lady Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 This thread (or the last few posts!!!) reminded me of a very old joke (one for the guys I think!!!!!) : "Why do women always smile as they walk down the aisle?............Because they know they've given their last BJ" :lmao: Hope that doesn't apply to any of us LS'ers - M or F !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Author carmaenforcer Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 Seriously. They are THAT important. I'm really asking. I have given both massages and bjs. They ask no where NEAR the same sacrifice of someone. Have you ever given a BJ? I'm guessing no. TRUST me, pal. NOT the same. OMG you girl are so funny. I am LMAO over here No I have not given BJ's but I have gone down on many girls and know about sacrificing my jaw muscles for the all might "O". I can't compare me going down on my W to what I want because unlike massages I actually enjoy going down on my W even when my neck and jaw hurt. Yes, they are that important, at least to me. You don't know how important until you have had to go without for as long as I have. Speaking of sacrificing, I was working a second job to make ends meet because my W had lost hers and this second job was for Fed-ex unloading trucks full of packages after 5 hour a day, 5 days a week of this my hands were sore and it hurt to hold a pen let alone massage my W's body for an hour. Yet, I still did it, even when my thumb felt like it was going to fall off. I say, suck it up. Do what it takes to make your SO happy because you love them and care that they are as happy as you can make them. And thank you stayclose My W's Best Girl Friend doesn't like giving BJ's either but does it for her man and they are just boyfriend and girlfriend. She knows my problem and has tried to help me out by talking to my W and going as far as buying us some good tasting stuff to put on me to make it easier for her. Didn't work she didn't even try. Just the other day she (The BGF) asked if it worked and when I told her no, she told me "OMG you might just have to get it somewhere else if she don't step up". I'm not quite there yet.
Pink_Tulip Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 So Carma, how often did your wife give you bj's before you got married?
Author carmaenforcer Posted March 22, 2006 Author Posted March 22, 2006 Once in a while and only whe she got drunk and I wouldn't call it a BJ so much as a tease because it was never longer than a minute if that but it stopped completely when we got engaged. She actually gave me about 10 seconds, not joking, on our honey moon night. I still love her with all my heart and have no plans on cheating, it just sucks that's all.
No Stress Lady Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Once in a while and only whe she got drunk and I wouldn't call it a BJ so much as a tease because it was never longer than a minute if that but it stopped completely when we got engaged. She actually gave me about 10 seconds, not joking, on our honey moon night. I still love her with all my heart and have no plans on cheating, it just sucks that's all. :lmao: Sorry, that bit made me laugh - was that an intentional pun?!!! Don't know what to say really - but yes - ahemmm - that DOES suck
orpheus Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 At the risk of sounding prudish. I read the first few posts on the topic and skipped to the last few...how did a question about legalized prostitution turn into a discussion on oral sex? Also, is the marriage section the best section to pose this question? I'll step down off my soap box now.
BeFree Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I have TMJ so giving a BJ is not pleasant. I at least try and throw a good five minutes in there as part of the experience. My BF would love me to get into it and last till he finishes, but I can't stand the pain. He would never go to a prostitute legal or not to get one. It goes against his values and morals. What are we saying as a society is we legalize prostitution? If you don't like it at home, go pay for it? Where are the values? It will never be legal everywhere because our country is based on these old world christian values and the backbone of our country truly believes in these values.
Pink_Tulip Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Once in a while and only whe she got drunk and I wouldn't call it a BJ so much as a tease because it was never longer than a minute if that but it stopped completely when we got engaged. She actually gave me about 10 seconds, not joking, on our honey moon night. I still love her with all my heart and have no plans on cheating, it just sucks that's all. I agree it sucks, I enjoy oral myself. But I guess my issue is, you knew this before you got married. Its not like she did them every day, and the second you put the ring on her finger she stopped. You knew what you were getting into, so you really can't complain now, you know? Heck, by using your logic, I could tell my husband- You know? I knew you weren't a millionaire before I married you, and I knew you would never be one... But I have decided having a millionare husband is something I need, so if you can't bring in a mil this year, I'll be looking for my sugar daddy on the side... Lol... I think I am gonna say that to him just to see the look on his face!
Bogun Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Once in a while and only whe she got drunk and I wouldn't call it a BJ so much as a tease because it was never longer than a minute if that but it stopped completely when we got engaged. She actually gave me about 10 seconds, not joking, on our honey moon night. I still love her with all my heart and have no plans on cheating, it just sucks that's all. If there that important to you carmaen, why don't you start doing yoga so you can get more flexible and give yourself a BJ? Or if you're too lazy just strap a vacuum cleaner to your weiner.
IWalkAlone Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 What are we saying as a society is we legalize prostitution? If you don't like it at home, go pay for it? Where are the values? How it it saying that we value individual freedom, and that what adults do in private is no one's business but their own? How about allowing for the fact that not everyone is married, not all unmarried people have partners, and that people shouldn't have to feel that they're not allowed to be sexual just because they aren't fortunate enough to have a partner at the momment or don't the profile of what most single people find sexually attractive?
Ladylay Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Would any Women agree that legalizing prostitution might be a good thing? Think about it, we need it most of the time more than you do. We can get something (anal and oral) there, that you might not want to even consider and we will stop bugging you for it. If regulated like in Nevada, VD and AIDS testing can be insured. Also the age and treatment of the prostitutes can be regulated as well. I think I know how this thread is going to go, but some women here have surprised me in the past. So... Just for the record, I don't think I would go to one my self. Reason why, because I think that any physical sexual contact with someone other than your SO is cheating and I am also all about fairness. If I did this it would then be ok for my SO to cheat. Granted I would have to be refusing to take care of her sexually in some way like she is doing to me and she could not get emotionally attached in any way. That's the reason for my post by the way, if your woman wont do it for you and you don't want to start another relationship with someone just to get a BJ or some sex on a regular, this might be a good alternative. My husband and I have used prostitutes many times. Only in places where it is legal. They serve a purpose do a service.
catgirl1927 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Poor carma. I myself don't really enjoy giving them, but I enjoy the pleasure they provide for the man I love. She does sound like she's being selfish. I still support legalized prostitution. But I DON'T support cheating.
blind_otter Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 In two words - harm reducation. The assertion that HOKEY made that it would cost more to enforce the regulations is fallacious, as the Netherlands and Nevadad have legalized prostitution and currently are not bankrupt. The thing that makes this impossible is the legacy of puritan sexual repression that is alive and well in the states. The consequences of such prudery are far reaching and deeply engrained in the twisted family life of many in our culture. Sexual deviation is a reality. It doesn't go away because you stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist. let's at least try to protect the women in the sex industry. Let's not abandon them to disease, exploitation, and abuse just because we disagree with what they do.
Author carmaenforcer Posted March 22, 2006 Author Posted March 22, 2006 catgirl, that's exactly the dilemma I am having. I would gladly go to a hooker to get a BJ once a year or when I can't take the not getting "it" anymore but I am not a cheater and so now that I am married I feel stuck. If my W however thought like some of you girls on here and told me I don't want to do it but save up you video game money and go get one, that'd be cool. Yeah right. Wow Ladylay, you must either be a really cool American or European in origin because like blind_otter stated; the legacy of puritan sexual repression that is alive and well in the states IWalkAlone that is what I meant when I started this thread, legal prostitution for everyone, single married, guy or girl, gay or straight. I just didn't word it right because I got a little caught up in my own personal sit. But as I stated in an earlier post, I have a bunch of single guy friends that have no one and would get good use out of a chicken ranch. My Best Friend actually went 9 years without a sex partner, for no good reason than he's a little shy and works a lot. That's not cool. Sex should not just be for those that are lucky enough to have a partner. Bogun Yoga sound like a good idea. At risk of sounding gay, if I could I would! Unfortunately, if I could I would probably never leave the house. Trust me, the thought of a jar of peanut butter, a hole in the fence and the neighbors dog. Ooooo, sorry bad joke. Pink_Tulip, does anyone ever think about something that they wish would change after the vows have been said? Am I never to change myself for the better after I said I do? Cool. I wasn't a father when my W met me so I guess I can't be expected to be one after getting married. I didn't own a house before my W met me so I guess we will never own a home now. I thought marriage is a joining of two people with the intention of growing together after that point. A pledge to love the person through the ups and downs. If the only being able to expect/demand what the person was like before marriage, then men could have the right to divorce their W if they gain weight after marriage or if they don't continue to perform sexually the way they did when they first met them. You were skinny when I met you I expect you to be that way forever. We used to have sex twice a day before we got married.... Please. Don't get me wrong, you are absolutely right that I don't have the right to complain that my woman doesn't give me BJ's now if she never really did. It would just be nice if she cared enough for me to want to make me happy. I shouldn't have to get a divorce in order to get a BJ. BeFree, my exGF also had TMJ and she took care of me on a regular, all the way, this was also the girl that gave me anal. I wonder what she's doing right now? J/K I love my W for better or worst, I guess I'll just have to go without, FOREVER!!! orpheus Does Legalized Prostitution serve a good purpose in society? Can it help to fill the void in a marriage where the sexual part of it is gone/lacking for no good reason? Should it be available for those that have no partners but still would like to have sex with another person? No Stress Lady I didn't intend to make a pun but hey if you can't laugh at another's misfortunes then what the heck are other people good for. J/K
Pink_Tulip Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Carma- I met my husband when I was 18. You don't think I have changed a lot since then? There are many things that are important to me now that I didn't even THINK about at 18. I get where you are coming from, but that's life. I have to live without, just like you do. I guess I just don't see the point in making a big deal out of something that isn't going to change. If I sat and thought about it a lot, I would drive myself insane. So I let go of those things and think about the good things. No relationship is perfect. I understand your point, but focusing on it will only make it a bigger issue, you know? And as for prostitution for single people's needs, I just have a different view. If a man I dated ever used a prostitute, legal or not, he would quickly become an EX. I find that to be ammoral. If others don't, that is their choice. But these kinds of sexual arrangements have been around for centuries, legalizing it and legitimizing it, making my kids hear commercials about it, and see reality tv shows about it, and driving by brothels is NOT ok. People have threesomes all the time, why do you need a brothel to have one? You don't. As for harm reduction, reputable places would require drug screenings, and therefore a vast majority of the people you think you would be saving would not qualify to work in a safe brothel anyway. Even in NV there is still illeagal prostitution. Leagalizing it does nothing but bring more people into it, not save the women on the streets. And the street I work on has the largest number of prostitutes UNDER 14 in the entire state. Legalizing it would do nothing to help them. Again, JMO.
catgirl1927 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Stripping is legal, and many strippers are seriously coked up. I doubt there would be drug screenings. Seriously. I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm just saying that's really not true. Drug screenings are kind of silly anyway, because they are so easy to get around.
BeFree Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 In two words - harm reducation. The assertion that HOKEY made that it would cost more to enforce the regulations is fallacious, as the Netherlands and Nevadad have legalized prostitution and currently are not bankrupt. The thing that makes this impossible is the legacy of puritan sexual repression that is alive and well in the states. The consequences of such prudery are far reaching and deeply engrained in the twisted family life of many in our culture. quote] exactly, we are really still puritans. I kinda of like it that way, but I think I am a prude.
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