carmaenforcer Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Would any Women agree that legalizing prostitution might be a good thing? Think about it, we need it most of the time more than you do. We can get something (anal and oral) there, that you might not want to even consider and we will stop bugging you for it. If regulated like in Nevada, VD and AIDS testing can be insured. Also the age and treatment of the prostitutes can be regulated as well. I think I know how this thread is going to go, but some women here have surprised me in the past. So... Just for the record, I don't think I would go to one my self. Reason why, because I think that any physical sexual contact with someone other than your SO is cheating and I am also all about fairness. If I did this it would then be ok for my SO to cheat. Granted I would have to be refusing to take care of her sexually in some way like she is doing to me and she could not get emotionally attached in any way. That's the reason for my post by the way, if your woman wont do it for you and you don't want to start another relationship with someone just to get a BJ or some sex on a regular, this might be a good alternative.
a4a Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Does this go for legal male prostitution as well? Because honey, sometimes I just want to get my groove on too....
blind_otter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I think it should be legalized, for none of the reasons above as they seem emotional and personalized. I think that the sex industry has been in existence for centuries. It's one of the oldest professions. This would give the workers some norms and standards of practice which could protect them from being exploited. And of course, my favorite as a liberatarian -- i believe you cannot legislate private morality, so to legalize or at least decriminalize would be more along the lines of harm reduction.
shocked-n-shaken Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Legalize it. If married people would like to par take, together or separately, they have to decide if it's cheating or an acceptable encounter. I think legalizing it fills a need for all. Single, married, male or female. I would love a bi experience with my husband permission and for him to watch, without having to worry about catching anything or seeing them again in a social circle or trying to pick someone up in a bar etc.
IWalkAlone Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I'll vote in favor of legal prostitution. I don't like the way that sex can feel "off limits" to men or women just because they don't fit the profile of what others look for in sex partners. Everyone deserves a few sexual thrills in life, even if they are not perceived as "hot" by those they think are are hot. As for infidelity, I don't think that people should violate agreements they have with their partners. But in reading the "my wife won't have sex" threads here, my feeling is that if a married person no longer wants to have sex for whatever reason and they are unable/unwilling to resove it, they should make an accomodation for spouse to meet their sexual need elsewhere. I don't think it's fair to tell anyone "YOU CAN"T HAVE SEX EVER!"
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I think it should be legalized, for none of the reasons above as they seem emotional and personalized. I think that the sex industry has been in existence for centuries. It's one of the oldest professions. This would give the workers some norms and standards of practice which could protect them from being exploited. And of course, my favorite as a liberatarian -- i believe you cannot legislate private morality, so to legalize or at least decriminalize would be more along the lines of harm reduction. I agree with this. I believe legalizing it would protect the women (and men) involved, and we could tax the daylights out of it and pay our national debt in like, what, two weeks? Whether a couple has a problem with it or not is personal. Whether a person has a moral problem with it is ALSO personal. Making it legal won't make it any more available or make a person more likely to utilize these services.
a4a Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I agree with this. I believe legalizing it would protect the women (and men) involved, and we could tax the daylights out of it and pay our national debt in like, what, two weeks? Whether a couple has a problem with it or not is personal. Whether a person has a moral problem with it is ALSO personal. Making it legal won't make it any more available or make a person more likely to utilize these services. Of course it would make it more available LOL! Hell I would want to open a chicken ranch myself and make some cash! They would pop up all over. So of course more likely they will be frequented more and by more men. I can see the competition now between whore houses.... Buy one BJ get a Hand Job free.... friggin club member punch cards LMAO!!
a4a Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I'll vote in favor of legal prostitution. I don't like the way that sex can feel "off limits" to men or women just because they don't fit the profile of what others look for in sex partners. Everyone deserves a few sexual thrills in life, even if they are not perceived as "hot" by those they think are are hot. Is this not called a mercy fruck?
TUDOR Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 It isn't so much the moral implications that got it to its current illegal state but rather its profound havic of spreading STDs in society. Back in the day whole towns were infected with STDs and a very large number of military men. There wasn't a safe way to regulate it when the law was passed. Do I think at present day and age we have better tools and science to make it safe, sure. But it will never happen for the same reason wacky tobacky will never be legal. As much as you try to say it is ok "if", no one pays attention to the "if" and just starts explotting it and ruining it for the whole. For every 1 one person you had following the rules and keeping it clean you would have 5 just doing it on their own with no regulation or testing to be found. Morally wrong or not, it is a pandora's box of upping the # of STD's being transmited at a more alarming rate then they are now now matter how much you think it can be regulated. If you need your dick sucked or want some anal because your wife is a prude I would suggest a FWB on the side before paying some hooker that has had more poles fishing in her than the coast of Cabo San Lucas. Let's be honest, sex is not that hard to come by, you really don't have to pay for it if you really want it.
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Of course it would make it more available LOL! Hell I would want to open a chicken ranch myself and make some cash! They would pop up all over. So of course more likely they will be frequented more and by more men. I can see the competition now between whore houses.... Buy one BJ get a Hand Job free.... friggin club member punch cards LMAO!! We must live in different places. Sure, it's "illegal", but the johns don't get prosecuted. Hell, the hookers don't in nicer places. It's everywhere, everywhere, and not really even hidden anymore. They are already all over, so there won't be any "popping". There will just be bigger, flashier signage.
blind_otter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 It isn't so much the moral implications that got it to its current illegal state but rather its profound havic of spreading STDs in society. Back in the day whole towns were infected with STDs and a very large number of military men. There wasn't a safe way to regulate it when the law was passed. Do I think at present day and age we have better tools and science to make it safe, sure. But it will never happen for the same reason wacky tobacky will never be legal. As much as you try to say it is ok "if", no one pays attention to the "if" and just starts explotting it and ruining it for the whole. For every 1 one person you had following the rules and keeping it clean you would have 5 just doing it on their own with no regulation or testing to be found. Morally wrong or not, it is a pandora's box of upping the # of STD's being transmited at a more alarming rate then they are now now matter how much you think it can be regulated. If you need your dick sucked or want some anal because your wife is a prude I would suggest a FWB on the side before paying some hooker that has had more poles fishing in her than the coast of Cabo San Lucas. Let's be honest, sex is not that hard to come by, you really don't have to pay for it if you really want it. What about Nevada? They seem just fine. Also, you're wrong about the military use of prostitution. The USN had "government approved" whorehouses outside of the United States all through the 1950s and 60s. My father was touring around in the submarine service at the time. They had MPs guarding the whorehouses that the military barred the servicemen from entering b/c there were too many cases of STDs from there. Istanbul had a famous one, my Dad was an MP guarding the area and had to chase one of the men who snuck by in a disguise.
Pink_Tulip Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I guess I am in the minority on this one. I totally understand all the arguments about regulating it and making it safer. And when I was younger I supported legalized prostitution, but I have changed my views in the past few years. I am disgusted by all the sex and objectification of women in our society. I can't even watch MTV anymore b/c it is so disgusting, and all the young girls are dressed like #####'s and talking very proudly about how many guys they have had sex with. The guys are even worse. I think this chipping away at the moral fabric of society is dangerous, I think it leads people to objectify women more, not help women become more independent. I would be ashamed if my kids grew up to be these morons on MTV. I don't think standing up and saying this is going too far and we as a society demand better for ourselves and our children is a bad thing. Yes there is a slippery slope when 'legislating morality,' but there has to be a point where you simply say we will not tolerate this. I don't want to live in a society that encourages debauchery and panders to the worst of the worst. I am afraid for the girls growing up today, already believing things like porn and casual sex are not only OK, but normal and expected. Add to that prostution being legal, and where are you? Porn used to be tabboo, you never talked about it, it was a private thing for adults. Now b/c of the internet and our loose society, boys have no problem looking at it daily, and girls are taught just to accept it, its what guys do, whether you like it or not. What happens in 20 years after prostitution is legalized and there are a bunch of nasty reality TV shows glamorizing it??? And yes I know it is legal in NV. But since it is only there, it isn't mainstream yet. I assume mainstreaming it to all the states is what we are talking about, and thats when it will become socially acceptable. And as for the OP, talking about legalizing it b/c men 'need' anal or oral and their wife won't oblige so there should be legal prostitution... That attitude is exactly what has come from our society falling into this attitude that free sex and porn and entitlement has done. Poor man, his wife finds anal painful and won't do it, now he is the victim and deserves to have his 'needs' fulfilled outside the marriage... JMO
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 And as for the OP, talking about legalizing it b/c men 'need' anal or oral and their wife won't oblige so there should be legal prostitution... That attitude is exactly what has come from our society falling into this attitude that free sex and porn and entitlement has done. Poor man, his wife finds anal painful and won't do it, now he is the victim and deserves to have his 'needs' fulfilled outside the marriage... JMO I totally agree with you on this point. The man who says, my wife won't let me violate her in painful and violent ways so she deserves to be cheated on is a rat. Where would that stop? My wife gets mad when I cut her or beat her with a lead pipe or burn her with cigarettes. But those are my sexual needs... jerks.
Guest Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Would any Women agree that legalizing prostitution might be a good thing? 33 year old mom/wife here- Yes, I have always believed they should legalize prostitution. Like drugs, it will never go away so regulate it and regulate it now!
RecordProducer Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I absolutely agree that prostitution should be legalized. It would create a safer environment. The whole sex market is based on drugs, crime, dirty pimps that beat the girls to death, white slavery, etc. I believe that none of that would've happened had prostitution been legal. After all, if an adult woman wants to sell her body voluntarily and there are customers who are willing to use her service and pay for it, why would it bother the law? At least those hookers would be protected. And finally, prostitution exists everywhere so it gives the legal system a bad reputation. I just wonder if any woman would admit that she hooks for a living.
HokeyReligions Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Why bother? it's not going to stop those practicing it now - those who couldn't afford the liscensing and health costs now are not going to be able to afford it if its legal and falls under business laws. Then legit business owners are going to be up in arms to get the hookers off the street because they are taking away from their businesses. Besides, the laws for business owners would prevent most people from being able to set up legitimately and we'd have all sorts of new costs in regulating the business and in fining those who practice outside of the law. Regulation would cost more than it does fighting it and there is still a huge stigma in going to a prostitute. Advertising might help that -- once people are inundated with it every day they become desensitized to it and begin to accept it - but I wouldn't want my kids seeing advertisements for Paul's Pussy Wagon: You're First Call for Mobile Prostitution in between commercials for Cheerios and Sears on TV. IMO Sex should be private.
TUDOR Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 What about Nevada? They seem just fine. Also, you're wrong about the military use of prostitution. The USN had "government approved" whorehouses outside of the United States all through the 1950s and 60s. My father was touring around in the submarine service at the time. They had MPs guarding the whorehouses that the military barred the servicemen from entering b/c there were too many cases of STDs from there. Istanbul had a famous one, my Dad was an MP guarding the area and had to chase one of the men who snuck by in a disguise. What do you think lead to the "government approved" whorehouses, it wasn't some unspoken military benefit from get go. The number of military men that were infected with STDs and unable to serve as a result is what sparked the govt to find a way to control it with "government approved' cat houses. And that did not do this lightly because of the negative vibes it caused in the community but it was better than the alternative. As far as Neveda, they have kind of been the exception to the rule on a lot of things. Their system seems to be working but the prices are outrageous because they are the only game in town and can afford to charge it. Personaly I have no problem with the whole sex for sale concept just pointing out a few things. By the way I am offering a two for one deal right now on my own services!! Bring a friend at no extra charge ladies.
blind_otter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 What do you think lead to the "government approved" whorehouses, it wasn't some unspoken military benefit from get go. The number of military men that were infected with STDs and unable to serve as a result is what sparked the govt to find a way to control it with "government approved' cat houses. And that did not do this lightly because of the negative vibes it caused in the community but it was better than the alternative. As far as Neveda, they have kind of been the exception to the rule on a lot of things. Their system seems to be working but the prices are outrageous because they are the only game in town and can afford to charge it. Personaly I have no problem with the whole sex for sale concept just pointing out a few things. By the way I am offering a two for one deal right now on my own services!! Bring a friend at no extra charge ladies. Buy one, lick one free? I was rushed in the story about my dad because I was editing. I always feel like it's "type to beat the clock" if I have to edit a post. Anyways, the story was funny and involved the dude getting caught in a burkha because he had military shoes on, and running through a nudey movie theater while my Dad chased him, and then the dude jumped out of a 2 story window, rolled and kept running. They never caught him. That's a man who works for his tang, I tells ya.
jerbear Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I would say legalize for men and women with some guidelines, condoms, lube, testing, etc... It is one of the oldest vocations in the world, there is a famous painting called Olympia by Manet. The US had state sponsored programs at one point. Chinese and Romans publically had it. Now 21st century, Shinjuku Japan, Amsterdam NL, and parts of Nevada have prostitution. It would reduce the sexual tensions of the closet perverts in the US, IMHO. When I was in Japan, an African American from the US spoke to me in Japanese, Catonese, Mandarin, then English; that floored me. He showed me the book of women. I was in Shinjuku Japan and didn't know it was the red light district of Tokyo, well needless to say for a fee I could have gotten my fantasies fullfilled. Almost any kind of physical attributes delivered within 2 hours. Being a young guy, that was very tempting.
Author carmaenforcer Posted March 21, 2006 Author Posted March 21, 2006 Wow. I am happy to see that the majority of responses are pro or at least accepting and understanding. IWALKALONE, bless you for your post. I think that the being someone's only acceptable sex partner is too much power for some women and they abuse it. I personally don't care about anal so much, my ex gave it to me a lot and it's not some thing that if painful or uncomfortable I would want to subject my W to. The oral thing on the other hand I don't think is too much to ask of your SO either way. For a H or W to tell their SO that they will never do it, is wrong. I understand that it might not be something that you enjoy but "I" do enjoy it a lot and so you should just do it for me to make me happy. I do thing I would rather not do for my W and I don't complain about it or refuse to ever do it for the rest of my life. I massage my woman everyday, she likes it, sometimes she claims she needs it, I don't always want to do it and I never "need" to do it, but I do because it makes "her" feel good. Within reason, W and H's should want to please their SO's or hand the job over to someone else.
blind_otter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 Within reason, W and H's should want to please their SO's or hand the job over to someone else. I read that as "hand job over to someone else". Which I guess is the same thing.
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 So this isn't as much about the pros and cons of legalized prostitution as it is about you wanting to have sex with someone who'll do stuff your wife won't? You know, I'd like a man to help around the house, care about my feelings and not hog the remote. i would definitely be more attracted to my BF if he did those things. Should I be able to hire a prostitute so I can have sex with someone who does those things?
blind_otter Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 So this isn't as much about the pros and cons of legalized prostitution as it is about you wanting to have sex with someone who'll do stuff your wife won't? You know, I'd like a man to help around the house, care about my feelings and not hog the remote. i would definitely be more attracted to my BF if he did those things. Should I be able to hire a prostitute so I can have sex with someone who does those things? No. But you should be able to hire a man servent who will walk around in a thong.
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 No. But you should be able to hire a man servent who will walk around in a thong. Oooo! Can you do that?
catgirl1927 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 I understand that it might not be something that you enjoy but "I" do enjoy it a lot and so you should just do it for me to make me happy. I do thing I would rather not do for my W and I don't complain about it or refuse to ever do it for the rest of my life. I massage my woman everyday, she likes it, sometimes she claims she needs it, I don't always want to do it and I never "need" to do it, but I do because it makes "her" feel good. This to me says that you'd be better off not married or in an open marriage. Monogamy obviously won't work for you. And to compare giving a blow job to giving a massage reaches a whole new level of absurdity.
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