richard1 Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 hi. recently i joined bjj and mma gym a couple months ago. in the grappling classes we usually dont wear gis. ive been becoming really good trainers say im a natural. its mostly men there but there are a few women. 2 of them are attractive. sometimes im rolling and no one knows it but i enjoy it not just for the sport part. i only like the competitiveness when its a man or an unattractive girl, but when its one of the two hot girls i like it for another reason. the first one, she has a really cute face doesn't smile much but doesnt frown and looks really innocent, and also has a very sexy body. her thighs are smooth and she has nice curves. we don't usually wear GIs, she usually wears spandex shorts, t-shirt and socks. she has beautiful tanned skin. when we roll, our bodies rub together. i like it all, but i like some positions a lot. like when we are locked really tight in full mount position and squirming for position. our cheeks sometimes rub together which is very nice but in a different non-sexual way. i usually get hard when im rolling with these two girls, no one knows because my cup hides it totally. i also like the rear mount position, especially the seatbelt grip because sometimes my hand goes into contact with her breast although it is covered by protection. i can smell her hair and neck, and i like it so much i sometimes get light-headed even though its a faint smell. my groin presses into her softly covered ass, and although im wearing a cup, sometimes i like to imagine i was with her. sometimes my hand accidentally slides onto her ass. the other girl is even sexier. shes has milky white skin and also nice curves. she wears spandex shorts also, but no socks. when im standing and shes sitting in open guard, i hold her foot to control her. i like feeling her moist flesh. instead of t-shirt she wears a top which covers her breasts, leaving her sexy stomach visible. we sweat a lot when grappling and it becomes slippery. sometimes when we are moving my t-shirt goes half off(its competitive and gets messy sometimes) and our naked wet stomachs rub together, i love when this happens. i love when our clothes get wet, and sometimes my face actually ends up in her smooth stomach. the best part is when she has me in guard position. she has a very slick triangle choke, and sometimes i leave openings for this. depending on where my arm is, im either choked with my own arm, or my face comes into contact with her crotch. when my face comes near this area i can usually smell her vagina. i don't like the smell itself much, but the fact that it is coming from her vagina turns me on and gets me aroused, and the fact my face sometimes is buried between her legs. i usually hold on and try to escape it(virtually always futile when its locked in properly) for longer than most people would before tapping, because i like the position so much. one time i actually went unconscious. maybe from this thread you will see me as a "pervert". well being a "pervert" makes my life a little better. as a 25 year old virgin who's always been rejected no matter what he does or approach he does, this is kind of a pill which allows me to fantasize and escape. i go home and everything comes into my head again and i am in reality. but i still know that in the next session i get to leave my world for a while. i think someday maybe i will feel what it really is like to hug or even kiss a girl that i like. i don't know whether it's nice or not, because i've never done it, but i still wonder. im pretty optimistic about life, i always think of the children in asia who are forced into prostitution, or torture victims in middle east. i can always remember that i am in good health, and i am still living. i am better off than so many people in the world and i am grateful. and i guess it's not such a bad thing, after all there are religious people who actually choose to be in this situation. maybe in the future i will learn how to be attracted to overweight girls or girls with faces i dont like. of course the ultimate fantasy is to have a girl who can have almost any man she wants, and chooses me rather than a girl who cannot, and would choose other men if she had the choice. but this is just that, a fantasy. i was never an escapist until a while ago, but now im a professional. i do stuff nowadays i would never do before. for example the other day i sat on the bench next to the river, and all i was doing was feeding the ducks and thinking. even now, i am writing this stuff and it feels kind of good. i feel a lot of feeling, physically and literally in my heart from letting this stuff out. it is very powerful. i also have this peaceful guitar tune in my head i saw on a documentary. i feel pretty relaxed right now. im often like this nowadays. when im in the contact mma classes where we hit each other and kick each others legs with shins, i don't even mind the pain. it's like i don't feel it. sometimes i get a good feeling from getting hit. and even when i notice the pain, i don't notice all the other stuff. when im thinking of pain im not thinking of pain, if you understand me. im not depressed but not happy at same time. i can't explain this, but it's here a lot of time. everyone likes to dream and i am better than a lot of people. i get 5-7 hours of dreaming each night on top of daydreaming also which really helps my life. i like to whistle really low, like right now im whistling quietly the guitar tune in my head. it is not the same when i whistle loud or expend energy, it feels good this way. if saw and you heard me say this you probably wouldn't believe me, but i think the future looks bright. there is always tomorrow and the next day, and like i said, relatively, my life is actually pretty good.
MadDog Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 Wow you've got issues. I'm not even going to try on this one. MD
amaysngrace Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 Wow you've got issues. I'm not even going to try on this one. MD Dog...you gave me a side cramp!
Shyguy86 Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 Way too much detail on that post!!!! WAY TOO MUCH!!!! These problems you're having sound like they're coming from a grade 9 or 10 kid just getting into the good part of puberty. You said that you've never hugged or kissed a girl???? and you're 25??? I think that might be your problem. Try finding someone you like and beginning a relationship with them, and than HAVE SEX!!!! That will get all of that built up whatever you want to call it out of your system. Well it may make it worse at first but it'll go away....... Hopefully!!!!
Author richard1 Posted March 12, 2006 Author Posted March 12, 2006 Try finding someone you like and beginning a relationship with them, and than HAVE SEX!!!! That will get all of that built up whatever you want to call it out of your system. Well it may make it worse at first but it'll go away....... Hopefully!!!! of course i try. i try a lot. i have always been rejected. maybe the detail in the first part put you off the second part because i explained this. i also said that i havent learned how to be attracted to uglier girls yet, so i cannot simply lower my standards. i could have sex with an ugly and fat girl, but i find them unpleasant. one thing i don't understand is why i don't want to settle for an attractive prostitute. please explain why i don't want this, because i cannot figure it out. what could be wrong with this that i don't want to do it? theres escort service in my country, but i don't want to take it. i think maybe its pride thats preventing me? but pride is not very important. is there anyway i can make myself be OK with getting prostitute?
Author richard1 Posted March 12, 2006 Author Posted March 12, 2006 Wow you've got issues. I'm not even going to try on this one. MD no go ahead dude i dont mind. quote all the stuff in my post and tell me whats the issues you see.
amaysngrace Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 richard, you're hilarious. i don't think you'd wanna be one of those guys that has to pay for it. if i was a guy, i wouldn't pay for it, not to be with some "mayonnaise jar" as a male friend of mine once put it, whatever THAT means. 1
lindya Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 of course i try. i try a lot. i have always been rejected. maybe the detail in the first part put you off the second part because i explained this. i also said that i havent learned how to be attracted to uglier girls yet, so i cannot simply lower my standards. i could have sex with an ugly and fat girl, but i find them unpleasant. I think there's a strong chance that when it came to the deed (sex) you'd be squeamish. Lots of people are squeamish about sex when they're still virgins - which is why pre-pubescent girls idolise the girlish looking young guys in boybands, and young male virgins start off with shiny, airbrushed porn images. Virgins of both genders can, in this way, begin their sexual careers by fantasising about doing the deed with perfect human forms in a safe, sweet-smelling and candy-coated context. I wonder if you're stuck in childlike perceptions of finding the realities of the female body a little scary and revolting right now. It could be that women are picking that up, and that that's why you keep getting rejected. Squeamish men don't generally give off that magnetic sensuality that makes women want to say yes.
No Stress Lady Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 Eeeeeuwwwwww - you've put me off judo for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lmao:
flavius Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 There are people fantasizing AND LYING on LoveShack all the time. Richard is okay, just a big-time dreamer. Living between his ears, and letting us peek in. What guy has had some sweet thing pressed in his face and NOT savored it? Chill out, gang. Richard IS verbalizing exactly what adolescents think and dream about, but I don't hear anything destructive or disrespectful or dark in it. I ain't skeert. Richard, why WOULD one settle for an attractive prostitute, when after all you DON'T WANT A PROSTITUTE! I don't want one either. I don't know your situation, but it reminds me of a dear friend, now 51 yrs old, who is just not attractive. It also happens that he likes beautiful women, and doesn't really want an unattractive woman. (Same here, for better or worse.) He has led a happy life understanding that he probably will not marry. he once told me, "Flavius, you and I are really about the same. For you there are 3 billion chicks you'll never sleep with; for me it is 3 billion and one. Not bad.":)
lindya Posted March 12, 2006 Posted March 12, 2006 What guy has had some sweet thing pressed in his face and NOT savored it? Chill out, gang. Now I'm getting creeped out. Flashback to being 11 years old again, sitting in the classroom watching badly drawn animations copulating in "Living and Growing" and feeling queasy about the idea of my own conception.
amaysngrace Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 feeling queasy about the idea of my own conception. you are too funny!
flavius Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Sorry ladies. men don't lose their inner teenager, they just grow extra layers over the top of him. He's always in there somewhere.
Author richard1 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Posted March 17, 2006 There are people fantasizing AND LYING on LoveShack all the time. Richard is okay, just a big-time dreamer. Living between his ears, and letting us peek in. What guy has had some sweet thing pressed in his face and NOT savored it? Chill out, gang. Richard IS verbalizing exactly what adolescents think and dream about, but I don't hear anything destructive or disrespectful or dark in it. I ain't skeert. Richard, why WOULD one settle for an attractive prostitute, when after all you DON'T WANT A PROSTITUTE! I don't want one either. I don't know your situation, but it reminds me of a dear friend, now 51 yrs old, who is just not attractive. It also happens that he likes beautiful women, and doesn't really want an unattractive woman. (Same here, for better or worse.) He has led a happy life understanding that he probably will not marry. he once told me, "Flavius, you and I are really about the same. For you there are 3 billion chicks you'll never sleep with; for me it is 3 billion and one. Not bad.":) so i will be like him? and btw lindya no thats not me or my problem.
melbourneboy Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 Holly S!@t Dude WTF? I didnt even get to the end of ur post but what the Hell? sounds like u need urself a g.f
Author richard1 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Posted June 10, 2006 what should i do now? im losing interest in stuff.
DarkDwarf Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 Way too much detail on that post!!!! WAY TOO MUCH!!!! These problems you're having sound like they're coming from a grade 9 or 10 kid just getting into the good part of puberty. You said that you've never hugged or kissed a girl???? and you're 25??? I think that might be your problem. Try finding someone you like and beginning a relationship with them, and than HAVE SEX!!!! That will get all of that built up whatever you want to call it out of your system. Well it may make it worse at first but it'll go away....... Hopefully!!!! I completely agree. Your'e 25. Find an actual relationship. And you have extreme issues. Get a real relationship.
everlastinggobstoppr Posted June 11, 2006 Posted June 11, 2006 this isn't another asian dude thread is it?
j.carsey Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 i only like the competitiveness when its a man or an unattractive girl, but when its one of the two hot girls i like it for another reason. After class, strike up a really casual sounding conversation with one of these girls you have a thing for. Make it look like no big deal - smile politely and keep your eyes off the chest/ass. See if she wants to unwind after class by going to a coffee shop or to grab a snack somewhere. There is zero harm in this. She might turn out to be single but even if not, make friends with her and maybe she will have some other hot friends who enjoy fighting. why all the unhelpful posts on this question?? you like a girl, ask her out... right? You already have some things in common
ronnieromance Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 You know, as someone who was/is an avid wrestler...and not that stupid WWE s***, it bothers me to no end when people eroticize grappling. I suppose I can see the fetish, but I'm on a forum or two myself and in regional forums the topic of road trips to train with other's has come up. There are instiances of people saying things that, within' 3 posts is obviously a sexual advance. It's just f***ing creepy to have gay men trying to grope you when you're trying to perfect your triangle choke or takedowns. I'm sure they feel the same way. Do all of us a favor and stop working out with them. Perv. -R-
j.carsey Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 You know, as someone who was/is an avid wrestler...and not that stupid WWE s***, it bothers me to no end when people eroticize grappling... It's just f***ing creepy to have gay men trying to grope you when you're trying to perfect your triangle choke or takedowns I agree they absolutely should not be trying to grope you, that is wrong. With the original poster, he MUST be a perfect gentleman, polite, professional, and not making any unacceptable moves. That goes without saying. But as long as someone is sticking to the rules what do you care what's going on in their minds? Or what intentions they might have? I might be at a professional event for work and politely chatting about business with an attractive woman while in my mind I'm nailing her and absolutely wrecking her hairdo. Because of my thoughts, should I not be there? Am I a pervert? one of my friends from college was a gay/bi man ... although he really kept it a secret, I only found out through his girlfriend (complaints). And he was really big into grappling, I know he met partners through it. Anyway the original poster doesn't strike me as excessively weird, obviously he must never be rude or inappropriate while grappling but if he finds the women hot, what's the harm? He should politely approach them after class I think.
ronnieromance Posted June 12, 2006 Posted June 12, 2006 I hear you, but in the context of grappling, if you're think if you're even remotely thinking about which way my dick hangs instead of the best way to approach the take-down, you ain't grappling to win, you're grappling out of a fetish/sexual desire. It them ceases to be competition and doesn't exist within the bounderies of such. Look, John DuPont was gay. He funded wrestling camps and basically befriended olympians under the pretense of becoming a better wrestler and helping them do so. He loved the sport, no doubt and he helped promote it and advance it. But he made unacceptable advances to certain athletes because he was attracted to them. Much of his philanthropy was just that; Pretense. It's not the same as having a conversation with a pretty girl. I play around with girls like that, don't get me wrong. Like a girl I met on webdate, she likes to play a little rough. But it's not being competiitve. I don't know how to explain it. The drive is different I guess. The outward appearance is one thing, but the impetus is something else entirely. I suppose that's my issue and why I say he should seperate competition from sexual desire when training. -R-
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