CaliGuy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Ooooooh - my goodness, my heart is heavy for you right now.... What on earth for? as I am a gal that even strangers will walk up to and start a conversation with, also people have always (even as a kid) felt like they can be touchy feely with me. The people that know me best say it is my open body language and my ability to enjoy aspects of anyone and any situation. Some women feel that's an invasion of their 'space.' Personally, I don't have a clue, I do know that my son has possessed those qualities since birth. He is not only a chick magnet, but a people magnet. Ok, now I am possibly getting some insight to my life... he he. Never did my STBXH ever feel like when I was speaking with someone (or anyone) that I was wanting them sexually, I just happen to love fascinating people, conversations and ideas. The OP thread said this: Question for the men--what kind of woman intimidates you--beautiful? smart? independent? have you ever been attracted to a woman with some or all of these attributes? how did you act around her? Did you react? what did she have to do to break down the barrier so you could like her and be relaxed? She wants to know if men would be attracted to women with these attributes. So in that context, I am trying to make it clear that there has to be some physical attraction for their to be a reason to make contact if you had never met them before or had a conversation with them. It's great you are fascinated by people, but that's not really the answer she is looking for. As for the OP, yes, I would approach her and as I said, want to find out who she is, not what she is.
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Maybe I'm different. I love extremely intelligent women who are independent and attractive (inside and out.) I'm not going to post my IQ here or anything but in no way am I dumb, so if I can find a woman that can make me think and keep up a great, intelligent conversation, she just scored some major points. She won't intimidate me. She'll inspire me and make me better. That's what I seek in a S/O and it's what I feel I also offer to a S/O. I intimidated my Ex because while she was smart, she couldn't communicate it well and we when did talk if I disagreed with her on any subject, she never would validate her opinion, she took it like I was arguing with her. I wasn't, I just don't give in easily She lost points with me because of that. Made me think of her as 'wimpy.' Awesome CG - you go honey, as a disagreement (or discussion) is not an argument but a way to challenge a mental thought. I hate it when I think I might be stubborn, I just like to think of as - I am a gal who knows what I believe in (but will stilll listen to a different view point). Doesn't mean i will change my mind, just keep it open for lots of viewpoints. Inspiration in a conversation or an idea with anyone - no matter what the age - is VERY exciting!
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 What on earth for? Because you need to relax and enjoy life! Some women feel that's an invasion of their 'space.' Not if they are "confident" The OP thread said this: She wants to know if men would be attracted to women with these attributes. So in that context, I am trying to make it clear that there has to be some physical attraction for their to be a reason to make contact if you had never met them before or had a conversation with them. It's great you are fascinated by people, but that's not really the answer she is looking for. As for the OP, yes, I would approach her and as I said, want to find out who she is, not what she is. I think you need to get laid, and relax a bit!
whichwayisup Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Typing is not my biggest strength. That's OK. I'm sure you make up for it in other ways...
CaliGuy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I think you need to get laid, and relax a bit! I'm relaxed, but a good roll in the sack would be nice
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Here's an idea CG If you just visit the thread by whichwayisup on the water cooler you can have fun just with the "fantasy" of getting laid... not a bad option. hmmmm Oh yeah, just a suggestion from an independent gal that pretends not to be.
bluetuesday Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I love extremely intelligent women who are independent and attractive (inside and out.) I'm not going to post my IQ here or anything but in no way am I dumb, so if I can find a woman that can make me think and keep up a great, intelligent conversation, she just scored some major points. uh-huh, but extremely intelligent women need extremely intelligent men to talk to. any less than this, they will tire eventually. i find it hard to strike up a stimulating conversation with most people. much of my life involves talking crap and discussing the dynamics of the big brother house NOT because i'm interested in that, but because THAT'S the only way i can relate to many people i know. I intimidated my Ex because while she was smart, she couldn't communicate it well and we when did talk if I disagreed with her on any subject, she never would validate her opinion, she took it like I was arguing with her. i am you in this situation. i have a way of putting things that means very few people can argue back and look either smart or rational. you say you like extremely intelligent women but would you like a woman you were constantly being unwittingly outshone by? someone who just knew more than you, understood more than you and could grasp concepts you can't? probably not. what i'm guessing you mean is what i alluded to in my original post - that you want a woman roughly as smart as you are. people are often too intimated to talk to me about 'issues' because they fear being made to look less intelligent simply by engaging in a conversation with me about anything weighty. i don't mean i'm scarily intelligent, but i'm clever enough to actually have friends tell me they're not talking about x, y and z with me because they won't be able to keep up.
whichwayisup Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Cal gal and CaliGuy sitting in the tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G! Hehehe...Yeah, go on that other thread and fire it up abit more!
Woggle Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I feel the same way as bluetuesday. I just can't relate to most people because I could care less about Nick and Jessica or American idol. That is why I tend to hang out with people older than I am. Even as a teenager I hung out with college students. Maybe that is why I finally found real love with a woman 15 years my senior. We can relate to each other.
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 uh-huh, but extremely intelligent women need extremely intelligent men to talk to. any less than this, they will tire eventually. i find it hard to strike up a stimulating conversation with most people. much of my life involves talking crap and discussing the dynamics of the big brother house NOT because i'm interested in that, but because THAT'S the only way i can relate to many people i know. i am you in this situation. i have a way of putting things that means very few people can argue back and look either smart or rational. you say you like extremely intelligent women but would you like a woman you were constantly being unwittingly outshone by? someone who just knew more than you, understood more than you and could grasp concepts you can't? probably not. what i'm guessing you mean is what i alluded to in my original post - that you want a woman roughly as smart as you are. people are often too intimated to talk to me about 'issues' because they fear being made to look less intelligent simply by engaging in a conversation with me about anything weighty. i don't mean i'm scarily intelligent, but i'm clever enough to actually have friends tell me they're not talking about x, y and z with me because they won't be able to keep up. I love the way your mind works BT- Most of my family are highly intelligent - but in order to live in a small town - they often pretend to be of average intelligence. This whole concept is fascinating when someone new enters into the family realm. A persons humor will often times be e dead giveaway to intelligence - only because it takes a good amount of smarts to be witty and "keep up." Gotta love humor!!!!
ms_jnj Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 [quote name=alphamale -a beautiful, smart and independent woman WILL intimidate me QUOTE] Ah crap. So THAT's my problem...
filarena Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I have found many women intimidating, and I have to wonder if those guys who say they never have are being honest. Or maybe I'm the only one who isn't 100% confident. What makes a woman intimidating in my eyes isn't any particular attribute itself, it's whether she gives the impression she believes herself to be out of your league. There are some very beautiful women who are approachable and some not-much-better-than-average looking women who think they are the hottest things ever. If a woman is sending the go ahead and talk to me vibe, then there's no reason to be intimidated. At least, not most of the time. I do recall one time I was at a bar and struck up a conversation with this one girl who'd been giving me all the right signals but who happened to be sitting at a table with 5 of her sorority sisters...that was a little more than I could handle, even though she was pretty clearly interested.
ms_jnj Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Short answer: None. Extremely beautiful women do sometimes make me a bit apprehensive but I get over it quickly. I can't say I'm intimidated, more or less captivated by their looks. Rarely I've ever met a woman that intimidates me. In fact, the more successful, independent and powerful they are, the more I'm attracted to them Well Alphamale had me feeling pretty blue, but apparently there is hope for me yet! Hehehe
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 challenge me baby!!!!!!!!! or intimidate me or shag me or something !!!!! Okay - just a good conversation will do ... As long as it involves sex of some sort! he he ...
CaliGuy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 you say you like extremely intelligent women but would you like a woman you were constantly being unwittingly outshone by? I've never been been with a woman that it was constant with. Do you mean if we were talking about cars and she knew more than me, or about Astronomy and she knew more than me? I mean, she can be extremely bright but I doubt she'll constantly outshine me in every debate. That's never happened to me, ever. someone who just knew more than you, understood more than you and could grasp concepts you can't? probably not. what i'm guessing you mean is what i alluded to in my original post - that you want a woman roughly as smart as you are. While I agree with you in some aspects of what you have to say, I have yet to meet a woman who outsmarts me in every facet. IMHO It's impossible for her to know everything, to outwit or outsmart her partner in every single subject. people are often too intimated to talk to me about 'issues' because they fear being made to look less intelligent simply by engaging in a conversation with me about anything weighty. i don't mean i'm scarily intelligent, but i'm clever enough to actually have friends tell me they're not talking about x, y and z with me because they won't be able to keep up. People seek me out quite often to talk about issues because I discuss them in a manner that doesn't make them feel inferior. 1
CaliGuy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Well Alphamale had me feeling pretty blue, but apparently there is hope for me yet! Hehehe Bring it on! haha.
lindya Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 While I agree with you in some aspects of what you have to say, I have yet to meet a woman who outsmarts me in every facet. IMHO It's impossible for her to know everything, to outwit or outsmart her partner in every single subject. Yes. Each person I know has their own particular area(s) of interest that they will tend to be able to discuss with authority. Part of smartness often involves (imo) recognising when someone else is more knowledgeable than you in a subject, and learning from them rather than attempting to one-up them. So, for instance, just because person A has a talent for languages they shouldn't assume they will be able to trump B in their understanding of scientific matters. People sometimes skirt around that threat to their egos by undermining the importance of subjects they aren't good at. Some of the brightest people I've met have appeared very unassuming about their intellectual ability - possibly because they constantly measure themselves up against individuals who have shone brightest in their particular field....and their confidence tends to suffer as a result. 1
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 While I agree with you in some aspects of what you have to say, I have yet to meet a woman who outsmarts me in every facet. I think a smart (intelligent) woman would never make you feel "outsmarted" - she would make you feel quite the contrary, if she were smart - IMHO. People seek me out quite often to talk about issues because I discuss them in a manner that doesn't make them feel inferior. I think you are wise to have this approach, as the intelligent people in the world will often times be isolated if they don't allow their attitude and body language to be accessible... = more fun, more people, more interaction, more opportunities for more brain power!
CaliGuy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I think you are wise to have this approach, as the intelligent people in the world will often times be isolated if they don't allow their attitude and body language to be accessible... = more fun, more people, more interaction, more opportunities for more brain power! I don't follow you. Are we on the same topic?
CaliGuy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Yes. Each person I know has their own particular area(s) of interest that they will tend to be able to discuss with authority. Part of smartness often involves (imo) recognising when someone else is more knowledgeable than you in a subject, and learning from them rather than attempting to one-up them. So, for instance, just because person A has a talent for languages they shouldn't assume they will be able to trump B in their understanding of scientific matters. People sometimes skirt around that threat to their egos by undermining the importance of subjects they aren't good at. Some of the brightest people I've met have appeared very unassuming about their intellectual ability - possibly because they constantly measure themselves up against individuals who have shone brightest in their particular field....and their confidence tends to suffer as a result. Agree with you 100%.
whichwayisup Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Doesn't it all still come down to confidence level? If someone isn't confident in themselves then they're going to be abit intimidated. Doesn't matter, could be male or female. Confidence and giving off positive energy counts for ALOT. Beautiful or not.
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Some of the brightest people I've met have appeared very unassuming about their intellectual ability - It is so refreshing when an extremely bright person has enough humility to NOT overpower anyone. A wonderful conversation is so intriguing, no matter what the topic ... it could be how high the tide is at beach or when the next full moon might be or what flowers were planted in your yard today... where and how the person responds will tell you their intellect and interests. CaliGuy Posts: 8,927 Doesn't it all still come down to confidence level? Doesn't matter, could be male or female. Confidence and giving off positive energy counts for ALOT. Beautiful or not. __________________ Counts for everything in my book CG. Confidence can cover a wide range of ideas : attitude, personality, belief system, sexual preferences, intellect, family values, friendship preferences, the list could go on and on.....Just need to be a believer in what is important to your own heart and mind.
whichwayisup Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 CaliGuy Posts: 8,927 Doesn't it all still come down to confidence level? Doesn't matter, could be male or female. Confidence and giving off positive energy counts for ALOT. Beautiful or not. __________________ Counts for everything in my book CG. Confidence can cover a wide range of ideas : attitude, personality, belief system, sexual preferences, intellect, family values, friendship preferences, the list could go on and on.....Just need to be a believer in what is important to your own heart and mind. That's my quote actually...not CG's. 1
cal gal Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 So sorry for the error WIU So much admire and have fun with your opinions and ideas! I will now bow to you..
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