If you found out your partner was transracial? Would it be a big deal or is it just not a big deal in vegas?

[flower girl 22]

I'm transracial I was born into a black family but I identify as white. And socially speaking I have been received that way (yes my Avatar is my photo). But for my experience men usually then I've dated have always seemed to have no issue with it not really cared that I have African ancestry. To the point where sometimes I forget to even bring that up. Because usually there's much more to life than what race or ancestry you come from or whatever. Who is that in mind. For me. I don't have any family and my City at all. And I haven't seen my biological family in 20 years. And then my mother. I've seen her. But mostly she lives in another city and she calls me.  but this is a common thing for people in Vegas

 

 

most people are not around their family are not from the city. Therefore don't have family in the city and so forth. So I don't know. In my experience I've never really had an issue with men on this issue because usually that never really came up. Like the topic never came up. At least I'm not from it always seems like it's more a visual thing. since I look white since I transitioned it's never seemed to be an issue for me. Anyway. I'm curious about other people's perception or perspective on those. No that this kind of thing has happened through centuries.

 

People never really pay attention to it too much but when people do it seems like long as though there was more outrage on it.But in the current day I just don't find it I have much of an issue on this I can literally admit my family does identify as black and mixed race. And that I identify as white and still is not that big of an issue. From what I've seen. It's just more so a different thing alignment. Kind of like how some mixed families have people who identify as white or black in-between kind of thing. Like I've told some guys I've been with that I don't come from a white family and never had much issue. And even if I didn't. It never came up. Because it wasn't really a big issue. So it's always been like it just doesn't really matter in my experiences. Even if I do bring it up it's almost like a quick conversation nobody really cares too much if at best someone might say oh it makes you unique. But other than that. Like I've never really noticed it as hindering anything in my dating life. I don't know. Anyone else's perspective or at least how you would personally take it. Let me know. Thanks

[Gebidozo]

Hmm, I don’t quite understand what “transracial” means. Do you mean “biracial”? As in, having mixed-race ancestry, but identifying oneself just with one of the two races?

Anyway, I don’t see any problem at all in any such identification, because to me race has very little meaning beyond the obvious visual components, and these are just what they are, regardless of how the person identifies themselves.

I don’t see how anything relating to race could possibly be a problem in a relationship, since “race” is a vague and imprecise concept. So anything pertaining to race is no more significant than hair color or eye shape or some other visual characteristic.

I think that culture and worldview are infinitely more important categories than race or ethnicity when it comes to relationships.

A person of my race and my ethnicity who doesn’t share my ethical, spiritual, and cultural values would be much more of a stranger to me than a person from an entirely different racial background who has the same values as I do.

I actually have mixed ancestry and it’s not always easy to identify myself with any of my ethnic backgrounds, for various reasons. Also, I’ve been dating women belonging to a different race than mine for many years, living in a foreign country.

[basil67]

I had to Google 'transracial' and found it relates to someone being born into a family of one race, but being adopted into a family of a different race.   And apparently nobody cares in Vegas but you're worried it may be an issue elsewhere.  Is this correct?

Honestly, people get bothered by all kinds of things.  And they don't get bothered by all kinds of things.  But if someone it bothered by it, then they aren't the right person for you.   Plenty more fish in the sea

Edited Thursday at 06:29 AM by basil67

[Sony12]

My understanding is that transracial implies that you don't identify as the race you were born as. So if a person was born white but wants to be Asian tgey could identify themselves as Asian and call themselves transracial.

 

[flower girl 22]

7 hours ago, basil67 said:

I had to Google 'transracial' and found it relates to someone being born into a family of one race, but being adopted into a family of a different race.   And apparently nobody cares in Vegas but you're worried it may be an issue elsewhere.  Is this correct?

Honestly, people get bothered by all kinds of things.  And they don't get bothered by all kinds of things.  But if someone it bothered by it, then they aren't the right person for you.   Plenty more fish in the sea

Yeah I know I mean transitioning from one race to the other

[flower girl 22]

8 hours ago, Gebidozo said:

Hmm, I don’t quite understand what “transracial” means. Do you mean “biracial”? As in, having mixed-race ancestry, but identifying oneself just with one of the two races?

Anyway, I don’t see any problem at all in any such identification, because to me race has very little meaning beyond the obvious visual components, and these are just what they are, regardless of how the person identifies themselves.

I don’t see how anything relating to race could possibly be a problem in a relationship, since “race” is a vague and imprecise concept. So anything pertaining to race is no more significant than hair color or eye shape or some other visual characteristic.

I think that culture and worldview are infinitely more important categories than race or ethnicity when it comes to relationships.

A person of my race and my ethnicity who doesn’t share my ethical, spiritual, and cultural values would be much more of a stranger to me than a person from an entirely different racial background who has the same values as I do.

I actually have mixed ancestry and it’s not always easy to identify myself with any of my ethnic backgrounds, for various reasons. Also, I’ve been dating women belonging to a different race than mine for many years, living in a foreign country.

Well technically. I guess you're right. If we're talking about black families and Hispanic families because of those families actually have white in them but people are calling them one race. So I don't know what you want to make it to be. Maybe you're right in that capacity and I feel like that's mainly how it ends up being labeled if I'm open about it. With my situation. But I was born from a black family but I identify as white. meaning not directly biracial. Like a parent of different races well really. My dad had Creole blood on his mom's side. And I do believe that's why we have the face we have.But it's not a direct situation in a lot of society tries to label it mono racial. On a societal level I'm talking about if a person transitions from one race to another like on a societal level i came from a black family but I identify and pass easily as white biologically I guess you're right biracial 90% black 10% white.

[flower girl 22]

23 minutes ago, Sony12 said:

My understanding is that transracial implies that you don't identify as the race you were born as. So if a person was born white but wants to be Asian tgey could identify themselves as Asian and call themselves transracial.

 

Yes exactly

[Sony12]

13 minutes ago, flower girl 22 said:

Yes exactly

Are you having surgery/procedures or taking certain medicines to alter your appearance? Or are you simply just identifying as a different race from the race you biologically are?

Edited Thursday at 01:45 PM by Sony12

[flower girl 22]

1 minute ago, Sony12 said:

Are you having surgery or taking certain medicines to alter your appearance? Or are you simply just identifying as a different race from the race you biologically are?

Oh there's no real surgery I mean yeah you could get a nose job or a lip job. When I was darker I was perceived as Ethiopian so is my father. If you understand what that means on a craniological structure I was differentiated from what is expected of the typical black phenotype. I'm not naturally dark skinned my body has always been a Fenty 240 before anything changed. And I was born with actual white skin at birth and gray eyes. Afterwards. I just removed my tan on my face. The only thing that has really changed for me is skin tone. Which honestly has been a good thing. Because taking care of your skin is actually it can be a lot of pluses with that. Especially when you naturally have lighter skin. So yeah no I have never gotten any surgery. I do want to get surgery though. Not on my face. For other purposes I have really bad genes for like breast cancer. So I want to get a mastectomy. And I don't want to get reconstruction or anything I just want them gone. But that's a whole different story.

[Sony12]

15 minutes ago, flower girl 22 said:

Oh there's no real surgery I mean yeah you could get a nose job or a lip job. When I was darker I was perceived as Ethiopian so is my father. If you understand what that means on a craniological structure I was differentiated from what is expected of the typical black phenotype. I'm not naturally dark skinned my body has always been a Fenty 240 before anything changed. And I was born with actual white skin at birth and gray eyes. Afterwards. I just removed my tan on my face. The only thing that has really changed for me is skin tone. Which honestly has been a good thing. Because taking care of your skin is actually it can be a lot of pluses with that. Especially when you naturally have lighter skin. So yeah no I have never gotten any surgery. I do want to get surgery though. Not on my face. For other purposes I have really bad genes for like breast cancer. So I want to get a mastectomy. And I don't want to get reconstruction or anything I just want them gone. But that's a whole different story.

Yeah I mean if you are mainly attracted to white guys there are lots of people who date outside their own race and what race you identify as is none of your dates business anyways.

If you choose to get a mastectomy that would probably affect things because most guys like boobs, lol. 

[flower girl 22]

7 minutes ago, Sony12 said:

Yeah I mean if you are mainly attracted to white guys there are lots of people who date outside their own race and what race you identify as is none of your dates business anyways.

If you choose to get a mastectomy that would probably affect things because most guys like boobs, lol. 

No. I specifically have dated or been with men who were white and hispanic. Or another one who was I guess kind of Hispanic so it's never really been about that. But when you mention it. Yeah of the white men that I've dated talk to anything of that nature I've never really even encountered one bring up raise but I have experience that with Hispanic men. They do bring up race more often but nowadays. After transitioning I don't really experience that anymore from them. It almost seems like that kind of question doesn't apply to someone like me or something I don't know. It honestly seems to have actually made it where the topic of race doesn't come up for me. Just in general in life not just even in dating life just overall. Which is cool I guess when you're ambiguous. Race does come up more.

[Sony12]

25 minutes ago, flower girl 22 said:

No. I specifically have dated or been with men who were white and hispanic. Or another one who was I guess kind of Hispanic so it's never really been about that. But when you mention it. Yeah of the white men that I've dated talk to anything of that nature I've never really even encountered one bring up raise but I have experience that with Hispanic men. They do bring up race more often but nowadays. After transitioning I don't really experience that anymore from them. It almost seems like that kind of question doesn't apply to someone like me or something I don't know. It honestly seems to have actually made it where the topic of race doesn't come up for me. Just in general in life not just even in dating life just overall. Which is cool I guess when you're ambiguous. Race does come up more.

Many Hispanic and Asian cultures tend to be a little more old fashioned when it comes to dating than Americans who can trace their ancestry back centuries in the U.S.

[flower girl 22]

19 minutes ago, Sony12 said:

Many Hispanic and Asian cultures tend to be a little more old fashioned when it comes to dating than Americans who can trace their ancestry back centuries in the U.S.

No for me specifically culturally I would obviously have more in common with people on culturally and common with which would be white Americans. As that's the environment I grew up in so.

[Els]

Interesting, I've never really thought about this. Personally I don't identify with many elements of my ethnic culture, but I guess I just viewed that as modernization and globalization. Never really thought identifying as another race was a possibility.

But anyway, I don't see how you identifying as another race would bother any reasonable person? If you're intending to go through lots of plastic surgery then I suppose it could, but in that case I wouldn't say that it's the transracial part that bothers them, but rather the cosmetic surgeries. 

Caveat being "reasonable" person, of course. I've definitely known quite a few unreasonable people, especially people from my own ethnicity who harass me for not speaking the language or for eschewing traditional cultural norms. You wouldn't want to date any of them though, trust me!

Edited Thursday at 03:11 PM by Els

[flower girl 22]

55 minutes ago, Els said:

Interesting, I've never really thought about this. Personally I don't identify with many elements of my ethnic culture, but I guess I just viewed that as modernization and globalization. Never really thought identifying as another race was a possibility.

But anyway, I don't see how you identifying as another race would bother any reasonable person? If you're intending to go through lots of plastic surgery then I suppose it could, but in that case I wouldn't say that it's the transracial part that bothers them, but rather the cosmetic surgeries. 

Caveat being "reasonable" person, of course. I've definitely known quite a few unreasonable people, especially people from my own ethnicity who harass me for not speaking the language or for eschewing traditional cultural norms. You wouldn't want to date any of them though, trust me!

Yeah you're saying on the basis of cosmetic surgery I assume some people yeah do use cosmetic surgery. I've seen some people use also you know get their eyes done and things of that nature but that's a little bit different. In my opinion because you know there's risk to it and that's a reason why I don't do it. Eye contacts are easier. But yeah as far as me. No I've never gotten plastic surgery. Just my skin color changed.

[basil67]

7 hours ago, flower girl 22 said:

Yeah I know I mean transitioning from one race to the other

OK, I've got it now.

For context, I'm white Australian.  The thing about being white is that our skin colour generally doesn't form part of our identity.   I can't recall ever having a conversation with anyone about my/our racial identity.  

So to answer your question, if you have fair skin and were talking about white culture with respect to yourself and your identity, I'd probably assume you are a white nationalist and not want to associate with you.  However, if you didn't mention your racial identity, and you have fairish skin, then you'd pass as a regular white person

Edited Thursday at 09:17 PM by basil67

[flower girl 22]

12 minutes ago, basil67 said:

OK, I've got it now.

For context, I'm white Australian.  The thing about being white is that our skin colour generally doesn't form part of our identity.   I can't recall ever having a conversation with anyone about my/our racial identity.  

So to answer your question, if you have fair skin and were talking about white culture with respect to yourself and your identity, I'd probably assume you are a white nationalist and not want to associate with you.  However, if you didn't mention your racial identity, and you have fairish skin, then you'd pass as a regular white person

Yeah I know in my experience. I don't talk about my culture and things of that nature with guys I'm dating cuz they have the same call to rates me usually they're American too it's hard for me like I've tried in the past with a couple guys one from Israel one from Columbia and I think there may have been another I just don't remember. But largely I like men who are within my culture American culture.

[flower girl 22]

13 minutes ago, basil67 said:

OK, I've got it now.

For context, I'm white Australian.  The thing about being white is that our skin colour generally doesn't form part of our identity.   I can't recall ever having a conversation with anyone about my/our racial identity.  

So to answer your question, if you have fair skin and were talking about white culture with respect to yourself and your identity, I'd probably assume you are a white nationalist and not want to associate with you.  However, if you didn't mention your racial identity, and you have fairish skin, then you'd pass as a regular white person

But my thing is I just noticed that some people say that they would disclose it my thing is disclosing it with having children and things of that nature. You know. Because genetics and everything. But yeah

[basil67]

1 hour ago, flower girl 22 said:

But my thing is I just noticed that some people say that they would disclose it my thing is disclosing it with having children and things of that nature. You know. Because genetics and everything. But yeah

OK, if you present as white and act like a white person, it wouldn't bother me.  Though calling yourself trans-white would make me give you a side eye because white people don't go talking about their racial identity.  

I wouldn't care if my child was a throwback and had dark skin.  But if I found that my partner had a whole history which they didn't disclose, then yeah, I'd have issues with it.  It's basically lying by omission.   

Edit to add:  If you want to pass as a white person, just live as a white person.  I know plenty of 'white people' who have heritage other than white.  But if you call yourself 'trans-white' then you won't pass as white because we don't draw attention to our whiteness.  We just are.

Edited Thursday at 10:32 PM by basil67

[flower girl 22]

Yeah that wasn't what I was saying. Honestly. Historically I've never put on paper anything but like Hispanic or white on the senses or anything. All the way back to when I was baby my mom didn't put a raise so for my birth certificate so it's blank. But I mean like when you look like you're in between races people ask you about race all the time. But now that I have transitioned no I don't get asked that question anymore. But for like a guy I'm dating I told them that my family identifies as black it's never been a big issue though. From my experience it's only like if I ever it's mentioned it's like passing like a topic brought up or something not just randomly and I never really been an issue

[Sanch62]

3 hours ago, flower girl 22 said:

... my thing is disclosing it with having children and things of that nature. You know. Because genetics and everything.

Sure, this makes sense. I'd want to learn whether my goals of a long-term relationship and having children align with my date's goals. So during a conversation where we each reveal our own private visions of our own future, if he speaks of wanting children, and if he's white, I would probably ask how he would feel about having a child with non-white genetics.

If he doesn't understand the question, you can clarify that you're asking because you carry black genetics. His answer will tell you what you want to know.

[smackie9]

Why not just come right out with it and ask them what they think of being transracial. Have a conversation. Most people don't really mind. As a population we are one big melting pot of races, blended families, adoptions, etc. Maybe if it was the 1950's before the civil rights movement took hold this would have been a serious concern. IMO I hope, feel, as a population now that we have moved on from discrimination such as this. If you both are at the stage of caring for one another, then honest communication and how it goes will determine if it will work out or not.