Is there still hope?

[Gebidozo]

3 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

Do you believe it's impossible that she ended it because she was overwhelmed and had commitment issues?

Not impossible, but very unlikely. She didn’t say she was overwhelmed and had commitment issues. And even if she did say that, people say that a lot in an attempt to soften the blow of the breakup. It’s like “it’s not you, it’s me” - a white lie.

 

3 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

as I said it doesn't make sense, when we were together she was talking about our next plans, photos etc.

This means nothing. People say such things all the time.

 

3 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

I can't close tje door completely because the signs showed that she can come back

Not according to what you told us here. The signs show clearly that she won’t come back, and that she barely agreed to make a trial run in the first place.

In any case, you can’t say that you can’t close the door. It’s not up to you to close. She has closed it already.

 

3 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

there's a mutual respect between and she's a good person,

What does this have to do with anything?

She might be a good person and have respect for you, and yet not have any romantic feelings for you and not want to have a romantic relationship with you.

[Gebidozo]

2 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

That we will both wait a month at least to see how it goes, that she will call me the next day after she come to my place to talk to her friends, that she really wants to start something new and I'm her boyfriend, she wanted photos to make memories and much more, idk she was really unpredictable, that's why I can't understand her, it's not that simple believe me

So what? She probably didn’t need a month to realize that she didn’t want this relationship. She tried her best (because you insisted on it so much), gave it a chance, it didn’t work out.

You wrote yourself that she said that she would do this trial only on the condition that you both can stop it at any time. So, she stopped it. She was quite clear that it won’t work, that her feelings weren’t strong enough, that she didn’t want a relationship with you.

You need to let it go, man. You’re in some sort of a denial mode right now.

[PAOK FC]

25 minutes ago, Gebidozo said:

Not impossible, but very unlikely. She didn’t say she was overwhelmed and had commitment issues. And even if she did say that, people say that a lot in an attempt to soften the blow of the breakup. It’s like “it’s not you, it’s me” - a white lie.

 

This means nothing. People say such things all the time.

 

Not according to what you told us here. The signs show clearly that she won’t come back, and that she barely agreed to make a trial run in the first place.

In any case, you can’t say that you can’t close the door. It’s not up to you to close. She has closed it already.

 

What does this have to do with anything?

She might be a good person and have respect for you, and yet not have any romantic feelings for you and not want to have a romantic relationship with you.

No she agreed because she wanted it too, she kissed me first and held my hand, then she changed her feelings and was really willing to continue it, because she is inexperienced she was afraid of continuing it, when you kiss someone and feel so familiar and be so happy that you changed your mind it's not that she barely agreed, she understood that it's worth it to continue, also she admitted that she had commitment issues during a call we had some days before the last meet. And when you make so many plans it's a sign that you're sure with your decision. Also even in the final break up she said it's about her and I didn't do anything wrong, at least I want her to be honest, genuine reactions and explanations. She trusted so much and shared deep thoughts, the vibe was so special, I also send her wishes for the Easter and answered so it's not like she wants to never talk to me again. She still has my presents and my card, it's like I'm a complete past to her. Why my close people say that she needs time ?

Edited 6 hours ago by PAOK FC

[ExpatInItaly]

1 hour ago, PAOK FC said:

When both agree with something it's an agreement, you can't say I change it

Of coure you can. She is not under a legal contract to be with you. She is allwed to change her mind and not date you. 

You're starting to sound obssessive and the kind of man a young woman needs to stay away  from. I don't blame her for backing away. She likely picked up on this and you creeped her out.

[ExpatInItaly]

46 minutes ago, PAOK FC said:

Why my close people say that she needs time ?

Probably because they think you will freak out if they say she just doesn't like you that way. 

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[Gebidozo]

2 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

Ok then what are the signs that a person is confused and doesn't know what he/she wants? I see all the signs possible that show an unstable behaviour, I know so many things about her personal life, she opened up too much. Also I want to find a girlfriend that is as beautiful as her and with such character, if she is into me but doesn't have both I don't even bother, I know my standards. When both agree with something it's an agreement, you can't say I change it, we gave hands, it was mutual.

Dude, you’re being controlling, patronizing, and condescending. This is very off-putting.

I now understand more clearly why she didn’t want to continue this relationship with you. If you were a woman and talked to me like this, I’d break things off very soon.

Edited 5 hours ago by Gebidozo

[Gebidozo]

1 hour ago, PAOK FC said:

Why my close people say that she needs time ?

Because they have noticed your pushy, selfish, and obsessive behavior, and are afraid you’ll freak out if they disagree with you.

[PAOK FC]

@Gebidozo @ExpatInItaly that's not true, I was never obsessed with her as long as we were together, we did everything because we both wanted so that's not true, the chemistry was great. I only became obsessive and tried to change on Saturday and that's why she was so cold nad serious, she tried to defend herself , I was wrong in my reaction of course but it came out of nowhere, and couldn't control my feelings, I should be more calm and discuss it with her differently, I admitted my fault on Monday and it closed well. So why do you believe I was obsessive with her? And about my close people they noticed her behaviour and told me the truth, do you really believe they all lie to me?

[PAOK FC]

2 hours ago, ExpatInItaly said:

Of coure you can. She is not under a legal contract to be with you. She is allwed to change her mind and not date you. 

You're starting to sound obssessive and the kind of man a young woman needs to stay away  from. I don't blame her for backing away. She likely picked up on this and you creeped her out.

Is  it normal to you to change your mind 4 times in 3 weeks? Also you didn't answer to my other question, what are the signs that show she doesn't know she wants? I want to know in general not only for this issue 

 

[PAOK FC]

2 hours ago, ExpatInItaly said:

Of coure you can. She is not under a legal contract to be with you. She is allwed to change her mind and not date you. 

You're starting to sound obssessive and the kind of man a young woman needs to stay away  from. I don't blame her for backing away. She likely picked up on this and you creeped her out.

Is  it normal to you to change your mind 4 times in 3 weeks? Also you didn't answer to my other question, what are the signs that show she doesn't know she wants? I want to know in general not only for this issue 

 

[Gebidozo]

2 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

So why do you believe I was obsessive with her?

You’re being very clearly obsessive now.

[Gebidozo]

2 hours ago, PAOK FC said:

what are the signs that show she doesn't know she wants?

Why are you so desperately hoping that she doesn’t know what she wants?

Let’s say it’s true, she doesn’t know what she wants. She gets together with you, then breaks up with you, then maybe she realizes she wants you after all and she gets together with you again, then she realizes again that she doesn’t know what she wants and breaks up with you again… Why would you want that? Wouldn’t you rather be with a woman who knows what she wants?

You need to have more self respect. Don’t chase a woman who has rejected you, for whatever reasons.

[PAOK FC]

1 hour ago, Gebidozo said:

You’re being very clearly obsessive now.

Yes but I explained that I wasn't like that when I was with her