Author fred123 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 48 minutes ago, Gebidozo said: No. If there is no romantic chemistry, then there is no romantic chemistry. You can’t expect a woman to feel it just because you want her to feel it. You move on and find someone who does have romantic chemistry with you. Absolutely not. Sometimes women had sex with me and then on the next date said they didn’t want to do it again. Sometimes I said that. There are many reasons why this can happen. It is a common occurrence. Expecting something to happen again just because it has happened once, in itself, is madness. Expectations of something like that can appear only if it is clear that the two people are attracted to each other, have chemistry, want the same thing, want to try out some sort of a relationship. Is this your case? No, it probably isn’t. You’re putting the carriage in front of the horse. You should strive to develop a mutual romantic connection, and then women will have sex with you. Instead, you expect women to have sex with you only because you want a romantic connection. You are allowed to feel how you feel, but you’ll feel better if you don’t let such an unimportant thing hurt you. When a woman keeps comparing you unfavorably with other men and tries to use you to get free dinner and drinks, you don’t get hurt, you just walk away. Why would you be hurt by that? Just don’t date her. Thanx for the advice. Appreciate it
Author fred123 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 On 4/22/2025 at 12:12 AM, ShyViolet said: If someone was driving me home, and then when we pulled up at my house then proceeded to get out of their car and walk to my door with me, I would definitely think that is weird. She probably thought you were trying to invite yourself in. There's no need to get out of the car and walk up to her house with her. I think people usually say goodbye in the car. How do women say goodbye in the car when she's into vs not into u?
Author fred123 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 On 4/22/2025 at 4:07 AM, BaileyB said: The only time that a man has walked me to the door is when he was coming into my home. And I would not be comfortable with a man coming into my home on the first few dates. Yes so it says a lot about how she feels about me when she will be ok with other men on first dates that she vibes with to do it. I guess the inference is she doesn't feel the same vibe level with me right?
Author fred123 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 On 4/23/2025 at 12:35 AM, BaileyB said: No - if a woman is not flirting with you and making it very obvious that she wants to be physical you should not “grab her.” That’s called sexual assault. Alcohol reduces inhibitions. If she wasn’t as flirty or physical with you on the second date - you need to understand that her behavior was likely due to the alcohol. She is now assessing you when sober and obviously not interested in picking right up where you left off… What are signs from a girl she wants me to make a move or physical? Do women make it obvious? I thought it's up to the man to make a move?
Author fred123 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 On 4/23/2025 at 2:18 AM, Alpacalia said: If the energy wasn’t as flirty or she seemed reserved, she might’ve needed more time to warm up. Forcing a kiss (or grabbing her) would’ve made it worse—you did the right thing by not pushing it. The physical connection was stronger on the first date (when you were both more intoxicated) and more reserved on the second. If she went for a hug but didn’t linger or make eye contact, that was your cue not to push for a kiss. Walking her to the door isn’t wrong, but her reaction (“What are you doing?!”) suggests she wasn’t ready for that level of chivalry—or the implied intimacy (doorway kiss, invitation inside). Some women love it; others find it overly formal or pressuring. Now you know her preference. Have you heard from her at all? Where did you two leave things? Yh as soon as the car stopped she hugged and gave me a half second peck on my lips like my mother would and left. Barely stayed in the car for more than 10 seconds really. Question is why didn't she linger or give me a chance to make a move?
Author fred123 Posted April 27 Author Posted April 27 On 4/24/2025 at 12:42 AM, enterthevoid said: I agree with the answer about asking her first. The best way to know what she wants is not to ask random people online but to just ask her directly. Well I asked her the next day on the phone we were talking and I said I wanted to kiss her. She said "well I should have made a move", I replied " everytime I drop u home u run out of the car straight away" She said "yh I guess that's somewhat true.
basil67 Posted April 27 Posted April 27 9 minutes ago, fred123 said: Well I asked her the next day on the phone we were talking and I said I wanted to kiss her. She said "well I should have made a move", I replied " everytime I drop u home u run out of the car straight away" She said "yh I guess that's somewhat true. Excellent discussion on your part and good result. Hopefully she reflects on her own body language
Author fred123 Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, basil67 said: Excellent discussion on your part and good result. Hopefully she reflects on her own body language Was she gaslighting me with that convo? I mean she must have known that I couldn't kiss her as she gave no signs and ran out the car with a quick hug? Why say to me then it's my fault I should have made a move?? I'm confused
basil67 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 6 hours ago, fred123 said: Was she gaslighting me with that convo? I mean she must have known that I couldn't kiss her as she gave no signs and ran out the car with a quick hug? Why say to me then it's my fault I should have made a move?? I'm confused And here am I thinking that you did well by opening the discussion, and she did well by recognising that her actions were working against her. But if your cynicism is going to get in the way of a fresh start, just end it
Author fred123 Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 11 hours ago, basil67 said: And here am I thinking that you did well by opening the discussion, and she did well by recognising that her actions were working against her. But if your cynicism is going to get in the way of a fresh start, just end it Just asking a woman's advice on the truth that's all
BaileyB Posted April 28 Posted April 28 25 minutes ago, fred123 said: Just asking a woman's advice on the truth that's all Nobody can tell you definitively what her intentions were, Fred. As you can see from this thread, there are different opinions and none from the woman in question. I’m sorry, but we cannot give you a definitive answer to the question that you continue to ask…
basil67 Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 hours ago, fred123 said: Just asking a woman's advice on the truth that's all No you're not. I already told you what I think is the truth, but you came back at me with your own negative speculation. But my advice still stands - if you honestly think she's gaslighting you, then stop seeing her. I will now add that if you are prone to negative thinking and this gets in the way of your relationships, try therapy. 1
Gebidozo Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 23 hours ago, fred123 said: What are signs from a girl she wants me to make a move or physical? Do women make it obvious? Yes, of course. The chemistry should be palpable. The romance should be in the air. Then kissing occurs naturally. It doesn’t matter who initiates, but yes, it’s more common that the man does. You see, you’re missing the point again. You keep asking what you should’ve done or shouldn’t have done. Such questions are pointless. It all depends on the context. On how much chemistry there was. Was the context with you and that romantic? Did you have good chemistry? Judging from your description, no, it wasn’t. You had a drunken kiss. She compared you to exes and played strange mind games with you. There wasn’t enough foundation for something to come out of that. Edited April 28 by Gebidozo 1
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