Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 He said he wants me out tomorrow. He left for work a half hour ago. He said since his sexual needs aren't getting met, then he's not going to put forth the effort to continue the relationship. I said if all he wanted was a hole, then go find it somewhere else. He said he doesn't want just a hole. But he wants his needs met. I explained I'd asked him for sex twice last night. He said no both times. He says I should've told him 'when your ready, i'll be ready too'. These exact words. No variation. And it would've avoided all this. I said what do you want, me to beg you to have sex with me. To lick your feet and eagerly wait for you to give me a drop of attention. That I should be turned down, over and over again for sex, beg you more and then have you accuse me of not wanting to meet your needs. He said he didn't see it that way. That he felt I wasn't "into" having sex with him, or I would've said the "magic" words. Because it wouldn't have taken any effort on my part to say them, so by not saying them, then I'm proving I don't want to meet his needs. He said I should've stopped him in the middle of the argument and told him I wanted to have sex with him. By not doing so proves I don't care to meet his needs, only that my wants come before his. I told him I was sexual frustrated too. That my sexual needs weren't getting met. But every time I asked, I was denied. I asked him when the last time I had denied him sex was. First he say's Valentines day. (Almost a year ago. I'd been sick, and nauseous, and asked if I could make it up to him the next day. He said I did it on purpose. Still brings it up to this day.) Then I ask if that's the last time, he says no. That I deny him sex every time he walks in the door because I don't recreate that closeness and intimacy. Something about I don't bring us close after he's been away at work all week. I ask him what does he want.. me to grab his dick every time he walks in the door. He says no. That's not what he meant. He says we never comprimise. I tell him he never gives the option of comprimise. It's his way or the highway. He says I never talk about it. I tell him that everytime I tell him I'm not comfortable with something, he brushes it off as though my feelings are irrelevant. He says well they don't make any sense and I don't think you should feel that way. I say, but I do, and I feel like you've left me no room to comprimise because you don't think I should have a problem. He says your correct, I don't think you should have a problem with it. And he doesn't understand why I just don't do "it". (certain thing) He says he's tired of arguing to get his needs met. Then asks me when I can move out. I said "well don't let me stop you from nailing the first ho you see." He says, I don't need your permission. (ouch) I said all you want is a hole. He reiterates it's not. I say, but you'll break up with me because I didn't say 6 words exactly as you wanted. He says it's not about the words, it about the intention. That he wanted me to say when your ready, i'm ready.. I say, no. The only thing I didn't do was say those words, so your going to break up with me because I didn't say 6 words. Whatever... I don't even know if we really are broke up. He kept talking about future tense.. resolving later. How to.. something. Then some blather about how he can't think of marrying me if he isn't getting his needs met now. (We never talk about marriage unless he's pissed at me, then he brings it up. I never bring it up) How he'd like to add me to his insurance, but fears that I'll continue to not meet his needs, but he feels guilty for having it since I don't. (Dr. told me I could possibly have breast cancer, but need more tests. I have no money) I feel like a nut job.. rationally I don't think I am. But maybe I've deluded myself. Maybe I am. How do you know? I'm sure nut jobs don't admit to themselves that they are nut jobs.... Will someone please come over and kick me in the head. I know this isn't 'normal' and I know it's f***ing up my head. But I really want to beg and cry and plead for him to not break up with me. This is f***ed up. This is retarded. I start classes at a new college tomorrow. I still don't even have the books, or even paper to write on. I haven't got a dime to my name. And Mr. Provider just left me hanging. Gone. Poof. Mr. Can't do Wrong, who supposedly meets all my needs. Again, just conveniently skipped out when I'm destitute. I have ONE dollar. A dollar to my name. After his "if you get a job we're over". A DOLLAR. And he's gone. Hypocryte.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 Was hoping for some response. just say you acknowledge? A hi? a Hang in there? oh. well. too long of posts. stupid broken record. no sense. why bother.
Mary3 Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I think he is a total Pr**k. !! As bad as it may be, NOTHING can be as bad as listening to this insensitive jerk ! Do you have family or friends you can stay with ? He got you sooooooooo dependant on him financially and now this nut case ( thats right HE is the NUT CASE ) wants you to be a puppet and beg. I would tell him to f*** off ! I would get my stuff and go stay with someone and start over. He can kiss my $#% ! ( not yours thankfully anymore God I hope you learned from this and pick a better guy next time If I were there I would tell him off personally. Not even worth the air he sucked in your presence. Good riddance Jack O**f !
Outcast Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Walk, get out. You are mired in one seriously f&^%$ed up relationship. He's demanding you be his puppet - that every time he pulls a string you jump exactly the way he wants you to. And you are trying to do all of his bidding. Girl, this is sick and twisted. Do you understand that? If your best friend or your sister or mother was in a relationship like this, you'd be at her house packing her bag and dragging her out. He knows. I've told him. Explained in depth why it bothered me. How it affectd me. Why I reacted as I did. And how I view the situation. IF HE CARED ABOUT YOU HE'D CHANGE. He demands YOU do all the changing, all the caring, everything. He insists you give give give give and has no need to give back. Really, Walk, you have to get out. You are being demolished. Your rationality is at risk as you try to make excuses for him endlessly. You have to get out to save your own self from this insanity.
Fun2BMe Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I think there might be some underlying issues he has towards you that he is failing to address, and instead taking the safety zone of blaming it on the sex. The only parenthesis (...) you used was around the comment that he thinks you might have breast cancer, but you haven't checked it out because you don't have insurance. Sometimes cancer is so frightening that people take out their fears in different ways. Some leave their partner, some pretend it's not there and so on. I think he's scared of that and loves you so much that he'd rather leave you than deal with it if it turns out that you do have it (hopefully not though). Another thing is that he tells you that after being away for a week and returning, he feels that he's not getting the closeness from you that he wants. I don't think it's about wanting you to "grab his dick every time he walks in the door" as you put it, but more like getting extra attention. If I'm away and come back, I want A LOT of attention. You might THINK you're giving it, but he obviously doesn't feel it. Maybe you should be more doting on him when he returns from work? You mention that you only have a dollar. He might have resentment at the fact that he's bringing home the bread so he deserves the extra attention and maybe does want you to not literally, but lick his feet. Again, he doesn't want to tell you because it would be tacky, so it seems like he's blaming everything on the sex. It's obvious that's really not the problem because you say you have initiated it and he turns you down. The only reason I can think of a man turning down sex continuously from his girlfriend is if there are other more serious underlying issues that have not been dealt with, so he can't bring himself to be initmate with you. That can be a good thing, because the other scenerio would be that he's so into sex that even though there are issues he's not happy with, he is still willing to have sex, and I wouldn't want a man having sex with me without me knowing that there were problems existing that I did not know about, so at least in that regard it demonstrates his sensitivity. I'm not justifying his actions towards you in any way. I think he has dealt with it the wrong way. There's no excuse for how mean and hurtful he's been towards you. And it's not crazy that you say you want to beg for him to take you back. You love him and want things to work out. When someone gives the simple advice "just leave him" it's easier said than done, so naturally after living together you don't want to just walk out. The fact that your college class starts tomorrow should be the priority of the things you are concerned with and thinking about at this point in time. He has left for work, you have school tomorrow. Don't bend over backwards when he's the one treating you so badly, by inconveniencing yourself to pack up by tomorrow. He didn't specify a time for you to leave, and it's not practical for what he is suggesting. Don't try to make him feel sorry for you by leaving if you are not ready to. At this point, focus on your classes tomorrow. I don't know if you work, but you really need to buy your books and notebooks and be worrying about that, instead of his so-called sexual needs not being met. I mean give me a break, you're supposed to say I'm ready when you're ready? That is ridiculous. I can't imagine how traumatized you are that he has refused you time and again. You must be strong to not have a nervous breakdown after being rejected for your sexual advance. I think you have to sit down and have a talk to find out what the real issues he has are. I don't thik it's sexual since you initiate, he refuses. There are other things bothering hiim about you and you have a right to know what they are so you can work on them or at least decide if you still want to be with him once you find out those things are stuff that are bothering him to the point that he's willing to let you go over it.
lindya Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I feel like a nut job.. rationally I don't think I am. You're definitely not. You've just been in one of those awful relationships that make you question yourself in ways that most people don't have to. I know this isn't 'normal' and I know it's f***ing up my head. But I really want to beg and cry and plead for him to not break up with me. I bet that's exactly what he's angling for you to do. HE'S f***ed up, and he wants to see you behaving in a f***ed up way to make him feel more normal. I'm glad you took my earlier posts in the spirit they were meant. I think you may well need to learn to assert yourself more and give others the clear message that you are who you are. It does sound, though, as if this guy is far too screwed up and into manipulating those around him to ever provide an environment within which you can flourish and grow. It's harmful to continue in a relationship this someone like that who you simply cannot reason with. Good luck, Walk. I hope it's feasible for you to get out of this damaging situation as quickly as you can.
Weye Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 It sounds like BF is suffering from severe depression or has some serious mental health issues. Changing yourself or the way you act towards him isn't going to change that. Its something that he needs to change himself. If he does not openly accept that he has a problem, and isn't willing to put forth an *honest and sincere effort* to fix his own problems, things will not get better. At the same time, its unhealthy for you to be dependant on him financially or emotionally. He is taking you for granted. It sounds like he needs a wake up call. He needs to know that you're leaving if he doesn't change. Unless he knows this, he will continue to treat you like $H![. And I hope you really will be ready to dump him if he doesn't start treating you better; nobody deserves to put up with all the crap you have. And after hearing all of this, I don't think leaving him right now and never looking back would be a bad idea. There are good men in this world who would give you their love and treat you like you deserve to be treated.
witabix Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Hope you read this Walk. Hang in there, I am thinking of you. Ignore this guy, and get yourself into a place you are happy being.
helena abadi Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 IS IT OK FOR YOU TO BE TREATED THIS WAY? YES OR NO? if it's ok, hang in there. if it's not get the hell out. it sounds as if you are emotionally dependent on this guy, and that's why you have put up with so much. please find a safe place where you are supported and can get some counselling help with codependency. anywhere is better than where you are. you are being abused. it's that simple.
lindya Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 what am I to think? I feel like it's some kind of crazy movie that'll somehow make sense at the end. That suddenly the narrators voice over will explain why and how everything happened. That I'll suddenly understand, and it'll all make sense. But it doesn't. I think it will. Eventually. Some individuals' self esteem and sense of individuality seems to be deeply rooted in their flaws and the various ways in which their psyche has been damaged. In order to have long term involvement with such people, I think they have to feel confident that you have the appropriate level of "respect" for all their flaws. You have to avoid placing any expectations on them for a normal, healthy relationship...because this may be taken as a sign that you've failed to recognise how special and interesting they are. I came out of a situation with someone like that feeling that I'd wasted years of my life on an empty shell of a person. If I had just been myself - instead of trying so hard to be the perfect girlfriend - the relationship with that guy would have ended a lot sooner. That would have been the best possible outcome for me, but at the time it was the last thing I wanted. I'm not sure whether I loved him, or if I was just determined that the relationship would not fail. In order to prevent "failure" I had to totally adjust myself to his peculiar ideas of how relationships should function. In the end, the relationship failed anyway...because he felt that I was no longer intellectually stimulating. Of course I wasn't intellectually stimulating any more. Maintaining a relationship with a spoiled and neglectful partner is highly effective as far as IQ (and self respect) reducing exercises go. This taught me the value of being true to who you are. You need to compromise in a relationship - of couse - but if you're the one constantly doing all the compromising, continually trying to shape yourself to fit this ever-changing mould of "how a woman (or a man, if it's the man in this unfortunate role) should be"...it's a recipe for disaster and unhappiness. Although I think the above scenarios apply to men and women, there still tends to be more pressure on women to define themselves in terms of what men (particularly her partner) want. Unfortunately, if you allow your partner to dictate what and who you should be, the sort of scenario you've described in this thread can develop - with the guy starting to realise that although he felt he wanted a malleable woman, he actually doesn't feel all that happy with that malleable woman. Of course, he'd probably be even less happy with a non-malleable woman. I'd imagine that his issues, and determination to blame all his negative thoughts and feelings on his partner, mean that he's never going to be really happy with anyone. You might be as good as it gets for him - but hopefully he's not as good as it can get for you. I think once you develop the ability to be yourself and shrug off unconstructive criticism, you'll attract a far better class of male than this one you're with just now. You have to guard yourself against all the subtle, manipulative messages about assertive women being unattractive - because right now, you're living proof of what can happen when a woman pays too much heed to those messages 1
Lishy Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Honey please listen to us all - You are not mad, you are not crazy you are being brainwashed into thinking that it's all YOUR fault ........ And it isnt! Take this opportunity and get out - He has told you to leave so if you are still there when he returns it just reiterates the fact that he can wipe his feet on you on the way out! I wish I had a magic solution for you and I wish I could tell you to hang in there and it will get better BUT IT WONT! You never judge me and I feel awful as if I am judging you, but I am not, I am so very concerned for you right now - I wish I lived by you I would come over and MAKE you pack - If you get away from the situation you will see it so much clearer babe - Get yourself back on Dr Irene's verbal abuse site and look all through it - That gave ME the strength I needed to leave. When you understand why he is like he is it makes it so much easier to get out. Here are some extracts - Does it sound like him? Sometimes your efforts fall short because your controller is expert at going overboard. More often, your efforts fall short only because the recipient didn't think your actions up. Oppositional and controlling tendencies keep them from being able to accept and appreciate whatever it is that is given. Not that there is anything wrong with what was offered, but it was not planned and executed by your controller. While the partner may be free enough to gratefully accept what is given, the controller is often too constricted to do this. This person implicitly pre-plans what they want, and how they want it. Any deviation from their implicit expectation is viewed as a disappointment. Another contributing factor: the controller thinks they know best. Their judgment is infallible; they know what's best for themselves; they know what's best for you. If your opinion differs, you are wrong. Add to this the typical controller's insecurity, and, bingo; the controlling person is likely to attribute the disparity (i.e., you are pleased with their gifts; they are not pleased with your gifts) to mean that you don't love them enough to work hard to please them, as they work to please you. And this one is for you Walk: You can't fix this. You can explain your good intentions all you want; your partner is unlikely to get it. Your partner can fix this. Maybe you can send them this url. The controlling person you love needs to feel a little safer in the world, so they can stop working so hard at controlling it. Hear that controlling person? The victim's job is to set clear, firm limits on what behavior is acceptable. Whether or not your partner's goal is to hurt you, you get hurt. Therefore, you need to set limits to protect yourself. Victims need to be careful not to give up their power. Never forget that no one else can give it away - but you!
bab Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Walk, I've not posted much on when you've posted about your relationship because you've always gotten good advice and I didn't have anything in particular to add. I've got two questions though. You've talked countless times about how you need to get out. Are you ever actually going to? The other question is something that was asked of my when I was in an emotionally abusive relationship and became the turning point in my viewing of the relationship and eventually helped me get out. Do you really want this man to be the father of your children??? Whatever he does to you, he'll do to them. Good Luck, bab
Magister Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 This is a crystal clear sign that despite what Magister insists on thinking, it's NOT about you. Well take me for a martyr. Its clear this guy is an emotional manipulator, but then again so is she. So what does it matter? Sure she should leave this fella. It will improve her life a good ways down the road. It the near present though, it will probably make her feel horrible because there are quite a number of things going on here that she has addressed. For instance, why did she move in with him in the first place? Why isn't she working? All I'm saying is, don't let the fact that this guy is acting wierd become an excuse to avoid dealing with your own problems.
cygny Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 walk--how about taking a break from this guy for a semester and clearing your head? get a loan, get your own place, stop depending on this guy, you are a big girl and can take care of yourself. he might threaten that it's over but if you stay calm and say you need to be focused on your schoolwork and then see how the relationship goes in a few months, i don't think you are doing anything wrong. please put your own needs first right now because you have become dependent on him and he is using that against you. it's not good for either one of you.
TheRock Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I feel for you. Something is obviously wrong at work and it's affecting him at home. Guys don't normally like to open up about what's bothering them and get bothered when pressured or asked about it. How long have you 2 been dating?
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 He might have resentment at the fact that he's bringing home the bread so he deserves the extra attention and maybe does want you to not literally, but lick his feet. We've had numerous discussions on his expectations from me. He said he's happy to pay all bills as long as I keep him sexually satisfied. Problem is, I keep trying to, and he says no. Then he says it wasn't the way he wanted it. Either too forceful, not forceful enough, or he feels I'm not into it so he says no. I argue that he's constricted me to 3 ways to initiate sex, and yet he still says no. He argue's that if I really wanted to "keep him happy" I wouldn't quit after a few 'no's'. That I'd keep trying until it worked. I think you may well need to learn to assert yourself more and give others the clear message that you are who you are. I realized halfway through an argument with him yesterday, that no matter where I place the line... the area becomes blurred. When I say I don't want to be treated like a prostitute, sex for money. He says it's not about that, and if I think it is then I should leave. How he doesn't just want a hole, and he's not paying all bills just for sex. If he wanted sex, he could get it alot cheaper from somewhere else. So where'd my line go? He just stated he's not talking about sex for money. Suddenly I have no idea what the line is, or where I should place it. I keep defending myself, but he runs circles around me. It's like having 20 dogs circling your ankles, where do you defend yourself first? Then having your SO suddenly tell you it's never been about the sex, but how special you are... blah, blah. But how my actions are showing that I don't care as much for him because his needs continually go unmet, while he insists he meets all mine.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 He might have resentment at the fact that he's bringing home the bread so he deserves the extra attention and maybe does want you to not literally, but lick his feet. We've had numerous discussions on his expectations from me. He said he's happy to pay all bills as long as I keep him sexually satisfied. Problem is, I keep trying to, and he says no. Then he says it wasn't the way he wanted it. Either too forceful, not forceful enough, or he feels I'm not into it so he says no. I argue that he's constricted me to 3 ways to initiate sex, and yet he still says no. He argue's that if I really wanted to "keep him happy" I wouldn't quit after a few 'no's'. That I'd keep trying until it worked. I think you may well need to learn to assert yourself more and give others the clear message that you are who you are. I realized halfway through an argument with him yesterday, that no matter where I place the line... the area becomes blurred. When I say I don't want to be treated like a prostitute, sex for money. He says it's not about that, and if I think it is then I should leave. How he doesn't just want a hole, and he's not paying all bills just for sex. If he wanted sex, he could get it alot cheaper from somewhere else. So where'd my line go? He just stated he's not talking about sex for money. Suddenly I have no idea what the line is, or where I should place it. I keep defending myself, but he runs circles around me. It's like having 20 dogs circling your ankles, where do you defend yourself first? Then having your SO suddenly tell you it's never been about the sex, but how special you are... blah, blah. But how my actions are showing that I don't care as much for him because his needs continually go unmet, while he insists he meets all mine. Add to this the typical controller's insecurity, and, bingo; the controlling person is likely to attribute the disparity (i.e., you are pleased with their gifts; they are not pleased with your gifts) to mean that you don't love them enough to work hard to please them, as they work to please you. I hear the words "If you knew me.." or.. what was the other one. I can't think today... along the lines of I must not know him, or listen to him, because if I did I wouldn't have done X, or bought Y. Oh, or "You're off on your own game plan." That's reoccuring. Lish. Don't feel awful for saying the truth. I know you're not judging me, only concerned for my safety, mentally/physically. I thought I was strong enough to fight through all the bs. That all those other women he dated (so many) really were selfish, and self serving. And I know I'm not, so there wouldn't be a problem. But now he says I'm selfish. He recanted that later. But then says I'm self condemned. That I'll never attain higher then I am, because I'm so focused on my own limitations, and that I freeze up and won't act because I'm afraid of failure. And how it sabatoges our relationship, because I won't do anything instead of doing something because I want him to be happy. So I must not want him happy because I allow my insecurities and fears to stop me from what I need to do in life. **He's close here. On my problems in life. But instead of helping me overcome, hes using it against me. He said he's tried for 2 years to help me. Yet I feel more controlled by my fears then I ever was before. Maybe that's just perseption and it's not true, but I don't know.
JS17 Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 But then says I'm self condemned. That I'll never attain higher then I am, because I'm so focused on my own limitations, and that I freeze up and won't act because I'm afraid of failure. And how it sabatoges our relationship, because I won't do anything instead of doing something because I want him to be happy. So I must not want him happy because I allow my insecurities and fears to stop me from what I need to do in life. **He's close here. On my problems in life. But instead of helping me overcome, hes using it against me. He said he's tried for 2 years to help me. Yet I feel more controlled by my fears then I ever was before. Maybe that's just perseption and it's not true, but I don't know. Until now I've been of the belief that if you want to work it out it will take a lot of effort but it can be done. After reading this little tidbit I'm now convinced that you need to get out. You can't see the relationship clearly because he has destroyed your self esteem and is controlling you. He is creating and adding to your insecurities and fears.He is blaming the failing relationship on you and you believe it. By telling you that you must not want him to be happy he is manipulating you into taking a more active role in doing things to make him happy. He doesn't get that he is the only one who can make himself happy, it's not up to you to do it. No wonder he thinks his ex's were selfish, nothing will satisfy this man and you will be beating your head against the wall trying to make him happy until you leave. Please take some advice from the outside and get some perspective. Even if you don't want to end it get away from him for a while, cut contact, and see this relationship for what it really is.
ReluctantRomeo Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 This guy has serious anger management issues. Not to mentioned the mindbending and neverending criticism... Walk, you have got to resolve this somehow. For your own sanity.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 I've got two questions though. You've talked countless times about how you need to get out. Are you ever actually going to? Yes. I tried calling my brother today, and couldn't do it. I didn't want to admit i am again homeless, penniless, and in need of his help. He has enough problems. I'm tired of feeling like a burdon. Like an obligation. But going to the homeless shelter scares the crap out of me. I'm afraid. Do you really want this man to be the father of your children??? Whatever he does to you, he'll do to them. I'm not sure I can get pregnant ever. Think I'm broke. Tried with my exH, but never happened. Did some stupid things after divorce, never got pregnant. Had enough close calls I should've been, but never did. I'm 31, my biological clock never started ticking. Children are not something I ever really associated with my having.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 why did she move in with him in the first place? Why isn't she working? Moved in 6 months after becoming exclusive. Initially I said no. But he explained that he was concerned for my safety where I was currently living. (rented a room in a 5 bedroom house. roomy was a coke addict. no locks on the doors. strangers there all night) I took it as "wow, this guy cares for me soo much that he's willing to share his house to make sure I'm safe. what a gesture of love." He drove semi and would be gone 3-4 weeks at a time. He said he knew he couldn't be home to be there for me if something bad happened and he knew I'd be safe in his house, rather then where I was living. He expressed great concern over my well being. And also that he loved me and wanted to make sure I was happy and safe. He was constantly worried about me while he was gone, and this would ease his mind. We discussed it in great length several times. My concerns, his concerns.. how it would affect the relationship. What we wanted from it. Both felt the logical step would be to move in together. I'm unemployed because we jointly agreed that I would go back to college and get my degree. I was unhappy with my job, and career outlook. I was unable to take more then 2 classes a semester due to work schedule. We discussed this in GREAT length. My concerns on the stress it would cause the relationship. He assured me it would work. That he was satisfied with how things were going, and that this is what he wanted for me too. We had numerous discussions on it. Not just one time. Many. And in length. I am not comfortable being reliant on another human being. My job afforded me the freedom to buy what I needed, and not have to ask others for anything. And there was no fear of being homeless and penniless because I made enough every two weeks to pay a fulls months rent on my own. He assured me he was comfortable with my quitting, he wanted it too, and that the added stress to his life was more then worth it if I was following my dreams. He's also stated several times now that he's worried I'll get my degree and leave him. That I'll find some one better once I graduate.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 Its clear this guy is an emotional manipulator, but then again so is she. So what does it matter?I'm not seeing this. How am I being emotional manipulative? I'd like to think I see my faults pretty well, but this one I'm not.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 walk--how about taking a break from this guy for a semester and clearing your head? he might threaten that it's over but if you stay calm and say you need to be focused on your schoolwork and then see how the relationship goes in a few months... He's stated many times.. no regression, no breaking up and getting back together. No "taking a break". It's all, or nothing. And he'll never give another girl a second chance after a break up. I believe he's serious. I also believe once I leave, I'm done. No going back. When I walk away, it's for good. I've never called up an ex and gotten back together. Once done, I'm done. If he chooses that route or I do. The end is the same. It's over, for good. I like the option, but I don't feel it's available in this situation.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 I feel for you. Something is obviously wrong at work and it's affecting him at home. Guys don't normally like to open up about what's bothering them and get bothered when pressured or asked about it. How long have you 2 been dating? I said I felt he was taking the stress of his job out on me. That whenever work doesn't treat him right, he comes home and finds something wrong with how I treat him. That when he feels work isn't listening to him, then suddenly I'm not listening to him. His response: He LOVES his job. He would rather do this job then anything in the world. That the only stress comes from his fighting to get home to spend time with me. And that when he does get home, I don't appreciate it. He's never said before that he loves his job. Always, always, always, bytching and moaning and screaming about how horrible it is. Every single time I talk to him it's how much he hates his job. Now, all of a sudden, he's saying how much he loves it. Stressing the word love. How it fits him. How it's my fault he's stressed because without me in the picture he wouldn't have to fight to get home, he wouldn't have money problems. I see him 2 days a week. If it's more, he's home to sleep, eat, and shower. then off again. We've been dating since December 2003. 2 years. He started driving a truck March 2004. He was unemployed when I met him, then in March he trained to get his CDL.
Author Walk Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 By telling you that you must not want him to be happy he is manipulating you into taking a more active role in doing things to make him happy. He doesn't get that he is the only one who can make himself happy, it's not up to you to do it. He says his needs are simple, and he is only asking for one thing. To make sure his sexual needs are met. But that he is doing two things for me. Meeting my financial needs and emotional needs. So (he says) he is doing two things for me one. Then asks, how hard is it to put an hour into making him happy, when he works 90 hours a week to meet my financial need. In a straight forward look at it... this seems to make sense. How hard would it be to put an hour of effort into meeting his sexual need? But it seems sometimes that no matter how sexually forward I am, or creative, or manipulative to get him to have sex with me.... it doesn't work. It's when he feels like it. I've told him this. He decides when he wants sex. I never deny him sex. I love sex. I've told him all he has to do is suggest sex, even slightly, and I'll do the rest. He can't ask for it. So we agreed if he took a shower before bed it means he'd like to be intimate. And some other things he could do without asking to let me know he wants me to initiate. He stopped doing those things. And continued to give reasons why we can't have sex when I initiate.
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